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Morphs? You mean mesh morph? Like a blend shape? It requires collision and both collision methods we have in UE (bubbles and kinematic) require bones/joints to manipulate the mesh

Thank you 🙏 for this comment my friend! Highly appreciated

Thank you 🙏 please let me know how you manage. I’m in the process of moving back to Canada these days. Once I’m settled, more. Videos are coming 👌

What is your clothing? Are you using FBX or Marvellous Designer USD? Is it separate clothes in one FBX file?

@@Goblination-UE5 it's FBX... I don't have marvellous designer. Also, I tried multiple clothing imported as one combined mesh as you did in the video above, crashed. I tried a single article of clothing, with nice topology, crashed.

@@144digital ok, I’m just going through slowly with you since I’m trying to figure out what you have and trying to simulate and combine in your project. Now, the character you are trying to use the skin weights from, what character is it? Scale? The cloths is being exported to fit the character? From the same software?

@@Goblination-UE5no problem sir. the character is an exported metahuman. The clothes were made to fit the character in blender. I then exported the character back to unreal engine so I can put the clothes on it, but it didn't work. I tried to just use the default metahuman skeletal mesh in unreal but that mesh didn't work either, thats the "m _tal_nrw" one. I didn't scale the character in blender. I did merge the metahuman head and body together in blender, and deleted duplicate bones so it could be one mesh working with the metahuman control rig. So far it works with the control rig, but it can't transfer weights to clothing. Which is why I tried the original metahuman skeletal mesh to know if my fiddling around with the bones in blender caused an issue, but that didn't work either...

@@Goblination-UE5 So I decided to try somethinng else that's not of metahuman origin, and the transfer skin weights didn't crash anymore... I haven't gotten much further than that, but I'm no longer getting the crash... Thank you for your replies sir... I've now learnt thoroughly that the only thing good about metahumns is their face, and nothing else... Every other thing is broken

Hey 👋 I’m glad you found this channel, about MD export and the SIM data not showing up is probably because you have an older version, try using the free demo they have on the website and try. I have videos showing cloth simulation with normal mesh and not only MD, try it and if you have questions please don’t hesitate 😊

That’s odd, try using the kinematic collider with the transfer weights instead. (th-cam.com/video/Y0dz7seit1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9g8t5u3k3aHkMzXq )

@@Goblination-UE5 got it! I’ll watch the tutorial instead. Should I always set the cloth physics asset to that of my character mesh? And are capsules sufficient? Or should we use Convex hulls?

With the kinematic Collider it’s no more capsules and getting weird shapes as collision. It’s 👌👌

Hello 🙋‍♂️ thank you for your comment. This sounds like an awesome adventure you guys are going through. Yes, most of this industry is tackling challenges and overcoming obstacles. Agreed. So, is it just the Marvelous Designer mesh that disappears? The whole cloth just suddenly gone? Also, how close are you with the camera to the character? Have you tweaked the fov to get to your framing/composition?

@@Goblination-UE5 Hello, This happens after the "usda" file is referenced into into the UE5.4, chaos cloth "USDImport" node. Then I dispatch the "TransferSkinWeights" node updates followed by the "SetPhysicsAsset " node updates. In the "preview scene details" I can see the MH animation with the pretty MD clothes + textures. However, when I bring the MH avatar closer, the cloth disappears completely. And when I move the MH avatar far away as before the cloth re-appears again. Not sure what I miss here. Regards

Oh my! Thank you 🙏 my friend, so much 🥹

Hey, yes, I’m working on a way to make caching work. Once I nail it, definitely expect a video about it 🩵

Thank you my friend! Definitely more videos are coming! 💙 No real success with caching Chaos Cloth yet

When you export from MD, scroll down when the Export USD window pops up and choose Diffuse Map, Normal Map and Roughness map as the Material node. Or, in unreal, just tweak the Material and disconnect the Metalness texture in case you had exported it as part of the USD

@@Goblination-UE5 Hmm yeah that's how I have it setup. I'll play around with it more. I was wondering if setting up the materials for the MD LiveSync plugin and re-pointing them to there would solve it.

It is another method, I’m sure there are both advantages and disadvantages to both methods when comparing the two. There’s another video coming out that I show the layer method with kinematic collider that I’m not sure it could work with the skeletal mesh option 🤔

Coming from Maya, I also feel like something like head rotation and head body connection should be there straight out of the box, of course. It could be a thing that’s in progress perhaps, I’m not sure. As it is now, it’s great to know these methods so that we know how to tackle these issues when we encounter them 👍🏼

Have you tried adding socket manually in the blueprint? 🤔

@@Goblination-UE5 hey, thankyou for answering. I havent add the socket manually. I am a little bit worried why it didnt add it automatically. I am using mannuequin , i think it should make it right no?

@@tgykurtulus There shouldn't be any reason to be concerned, it is as easy to remove sockets and it is to add them. It will not ruin anything, even if it's the mannequin. I say, go for it :)

No worries my friend! So you are using the MH object from Blender as the Kinematic Object? When you add weights to the dress, try not to paint it all too high! Paint it at 0.03 so it’s almost black but still has weight to it and go from there first

Thank you 🙏 Are they the same Static Mesh object? You can use the layer method in Chaos or paint their weight accordingly :)

@@Goblination-UE5 Thanks, they're separate. I have a full body cloth and a coat but somehow the coat is penetrating the full body cloth. I'll give it a try, thanks again.

No I haven’t actually, definitely going to :) Have you?

@@Goblination-UE5 I'm just going to try it now. I've been following your tutorial here with the Md>Chaos cloth, but the results are pretty bad because of the terrible physics asset setup. It really is the breaker of the whole workflow. Hopefully we'll get a better Metahuman physics asset in future updates. The livesync is for baked/cached sim anim as I'm sure you already know. Thanks for this tutorial. It was very well paced and comprehensive.

@musashidanmcgrath thank you my friend. Yes in this tutorial I used the bubble collision method. It sucks!!! Use the kinematic collider my friend. Game changer and nearly perfect. Here watch this one - th-cam.com/video/Y0dz7seit1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V9HyKMJnH6vlIkGP

What you can try and do is instead of using - Import Static Mesh, use Import Skeletal Mesh node and connect that. I have not done that yet (used the method I am showing here). Please let me know the result of this :)

@@Goblination-UE5 that works perfectly! Thank you for the suggestion. Okay this might sound stupid I’m new to UE, but what’s the difference between this pipeline and the conventional chaos cloth weight paint pipeline? ( the one we paint green and pink)

@@callme_j081 Im glad that worked :) In terms of weight painting, it is the same workflow. Chaos Cloth has changed since UE4 though, I think that is the new norm now...

Interesting, one question that might seem silly but what do you have checked under plugins when you search for cloth?

@@Goblination-UE5 Thank you so much for your reply! Under plugins the "Chaos Cloth Asset" and "Chaos Cloth Generator" appear correctly checked across all my projects. However, I can't find these plugins, or the plugin with the t-shirt icon, under "Physics" when I right-click in the Content Browser. Searching for "cloth" that way also yields no results. In other words, the plugin is unaccessible. Truly beats me. Maybe I'll have to reinstall the engine. Or maybe it's a Mac issue. Unreal is not really good for Mac. Thanks a million!

@@robertomachado7581 Do you also have - Chaos Cloth plugin as well on the list? it would be a hand written blue icon and it is version 1.0, this is the actual module of Chaos Cloth

Cheers my friend, yes, this works perfect 👌 with MH

@@Goblination-UE5 I've been trying for hours in a variety of different ways and every time I add the MH Skeletal Mesh to the second TransferSkinWeights to the slot UE (5.4) crashes. I also tried importing an FBX SKM but that crashed as well. Not sure what is happening...

@@leecorsack I see, I have a couple of questions for you. 01, what mesh are you giving your MH as cloths and are trying to have the skin weights to work with? if it is a normal static mesh let's say from Mixamo, make sure that it's scale is 1.0 on all axis' 02. what is the skeletal mesh you are selecting to provide the information from? it should be located here: /All/Game/MetaHumans/Common/Female(in my case it is a female)/Medium (in my case, I downloaded a medium version)/NormalWeight (again, in my case)/Body

@@Goblination-UE5 Thank you for the reply. The clothing static mesh (yes, normal static mesh) and the static mesh I imported as my MH collision mesh are set to 1.0 scale. I exported out my MH body and head and combined them as a single FBX mesh in Blender 4.1, then imported as a static mesh in UE. The skeletal mesh used for both TransferSkinWeights slots is the f_tal_unw_body SKM. NOTE: This is a custom metahuman with morph targets so I had modified the body slightly but the targets function fine.

@@leecorsack I see, so what I’d do is don’t combine the head and body! Export them together from blender (even lower the poly count or use lod 2 so it’s not as dense), then import the FBX into UE make sure to check the option in the import window so it’ll come in as one node. Make that the Kinematic Collision

Cheers! If your FBX is rotated wrong it was probably the channel up was off, usually DCCs have Y up and UE has Z as the up instead, so I would check the FBX you exported and see if it is Z or Y up and go from there...

@@Goblination-UE5 thanks a lot my friend! ♥️

I made it pretty far but I'm stuck in UE. I get no ClothAsset under PHYSICS. I run the newest version of UE. Any idea? Thanks a lot

@@muxinedrisch hmmm, did you install Chaos Cloth plugin at all? if not, please go to edit>Plugins> and search chaos, mark Chaos Cloth, Asset and also Asset Editor. Then restart UE. it should be there after the restart

Yes, you need to paint the weights on your cape so that the bottom part would be white or whiter than the top part of the cape that would take the main weight from the character's skinning properties. The whiter it is, the looser it would be and behave the way you are looking for. (Watch this video from this point, where I create the add weight node and start painting the loose areas I want to move in a cloth manner - th-cam.com/video/4-hWwAfTrZQ/w-d-xo.html )

@@Goblination-UE5 thank you for your answer! Yes that's exactly what I did, the bottom part was completely white, but somehow the cape was still reacting to the movement of the legs and feet, so I edited the weights in the skeletal mesh and that did the trick :)

@@ScarsOfWar Perfect!!! basically, the cape does not need to be a skeletal mesh, it could just be a static mesh, you tell it to get the weight from the skeletal mesh object :)

What I would do for what you are asking, is, I would try to chaos cloth the skeletal mesh of your desired character and just paint the faces of the cloth you want to simulate. Make sure you create a proper collision object for it. I’m not too sure what you mean by implementing different clothing? You mean different skeletal meshes? On top of what you have?

@@Goblination-UE5 like, changing the clothes on the same character. As in, different outfit parts (gloves, boots, chest, pants, things like that)

@@Tenchinu I see, so you would need to separate these anyway and make those switches and changes

Nice! I agree! I find Erika the best looking on on Mixamo for sure! :)

You go about the same way my friend, make sure to add the weight and paint the parts you want to be loose (tip of the belt for example)

Cheers! 🥂 if your clothes object is rotated to let’s say the opposite direction (180 on Y), if you don’t use 3D software and can re export with the proper rotation, I’d add another node between the ImportStaticMesh node and the TransferSkinWeights node, add a node called - TransformPositions and in that node, Transform Position- 3D and also in Transform Positions- Render in Render rotation change the Y rotation from 0 to 180. This should simulate your object according to your subject mesh

I hear you my friend, MH could be used to bring our projects to such higher level, it’s really ground breaking tech and accessibility for us creatives 💙👍🏼

There is an FPS drop, yes, I have noticed that, partially depending on how high resolution our meshes are for bothe the cloth and or the kinematic object. Layered method might help, I am going to make a layered tutorial for sure! It is part of the plan! ☺️

Welcome to an amazing world as a newbie, enjoy it! And yes, Chaos Cloth in UE5.4 comes with a template that we could use and literally go node by node and fill in what is required. Alternatively, what I show in the vids, is I delete all the nodes and create my own script. You could follow along and ask any questions if you are encountering issues. Here watch this video where I start from scratch: th-cam.com/video/Y0dz7seit1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K-InoNACA8AxG1Yw

Interesting suggestion for sure 👌👍🏼👌thank you, I’ll definitely look into doing so my friend

@@Goblination-UE5 especially the hair sim please.

Hey, sure thing, I’ll create a video using MH with other meshes that do not require Metatailor, for sure

@@Goblination-UE5 i'll be waiting for 🫡 thank you so much

Cheers, I really only tried rendering to MP4 with a mesh that was made cloth (not from MD) and it worked with no issues. The only times the cloth went crazy on me were if I press Play game instead of simulate and if I import a mesh that I use as chaos cloth object with scale attribute higher than 1.0 (required me to freeze transformation prior to exporting it from Maya)

@@Goblination-UE5 Did you render it to mp4 with the legacy render? Currently there is a bug with this if you use the MRQ and from what I am gathering they haven't fixed it in 5.4, I still need to test it out, I am using 5.3.2.

What issues do you get with the import? It’s probably not the correct version of MD that you are using, the latest one was released just at the same time UE5.4 was released. Check your version inside the software, this is the version that would work in the import as USD - 2024.0.173.48386 the numbers after 2024.0 should be 173… Anyway, you could just import an FBX

@@Goblination-UE5 after selecting the USDA file the lod error pops up again

@@SoumikProduction Does this happen like from this point in the video? - th-cam.com/video/DeZoBZ7XrDU/w-d-xo.html

@@Goblination-UE5yes, exactly 😢 please help! This video was so helpful! Just got stuck at this part. & thank you so much for taking the time to reply!

@@SoumikProduction that tells me you don’t have the proper Marvelous Designer version, I’d just export the clothing as FBX from MD, make sure it’s welded and single mesh when you export. In UE, import the mesh you got from MD, when in Chaos Cloth, use import static mesh and give it the FBX u just imported into engine. The rest do what is in the video

Thank you my friend for taking the time to write this comment 🙏

Thank you my friend! 🙏

Yes, you need this specific version which came out I believe at the same time UE5.4.1 this is the version you are looking for - 2024.0.173 (r48386). Get the Demo from MD website and test it

Sure, this could be used in production for background characters for sure! Mid to close up shots? Perhaps not. I’m sure creators are sensitive enough to analyse and execute their shots according to their needs 🤷‍♂️

BTW, I totally forgot to add and ask you, would you recommend CLO3D with MD?

​@@Goblination-UE5 I recommend style3d simulator I have a sample project

@@Goblination-UE5 I recommend style3d simulator

@@Metarig Interesting, checking Style3D now, never dealt with it. Thank you for suggesting my friend, I appreciate that!

Thank you 🙏 when did the latest version come out? This was version - 2024.0.173 r48386 and it was checked to on when I exported

@@Goblination-UE5 thanks just making sure, i know in an older video you didn't have that avail it looked like so was just checking

Hahaha no my friend, use Blender :) all good, Maya is my personal choice! You can just bring in the Mixamo rig and then just retarget in UE, it will all work out the same

Hey, yes it should work, definitely 💯

@@Goblination-UE5 Thanks! I have just used Marvelous Designer to create some customzied clothes and import them into UE5. But this way works only for Sequencer and needs Painting of Skin weights. I will try the way that you showed here!

@@zimingpeng8418please let me know your findings and results 🎉

What issues are you getting in the armpits?

When the arms are up the armpits in clothes looks but and move bad

@@ER3ADD do you have Discord? Send me your file to see the FBX - discord.gg/kdrAVZ99

🎉 you are more than welcome

You don’t need one for the body and one for the head, you just choose the proper MH rig for that, it will hold the information for both the body and the head 👍🏼

@@Goblination-UE5 i have an over head hoodie and when metahuman turns the head, head part of hoodie doesnt move.

@@touristhawk I see, what I'd try doing, is, export the MH plus head as static objects. Make sure they are one static object (all combined as one mesh in UE) then use that as Kinematic Collider. In the transfer skin weight node, direct it to the skeletal mesh of your MH (it should be in - Content>MetaHuman>Common>Common). I know it does not show the head but the bones are all there, try and see if that plus the Kinematic Collider would work :)

Thanks my friend, for what it is though, it’s pretty cool 👌 I’m sure that with the next update it’ll be better! Have you managed to get the layered method yet?

@@Goblination-UE5No, layered doesn’t seem to work properly - it sort of does but mostly doesn’t. You?

@@virtualfilmer same thing, great potential though… let’s wait for an update

Thank you so much D. 🙏