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Not God , I have this book and have read some of it. Very interesting.

Guilt is feeling bad about what we do. Shame is feeling bad for who we are.

Dont drink, go to meetings, ask for help. You cant miss!

I’m looking at AA for inspiration for how to get the economy I am a part of off of fiat currency

Thats true. Look again for a new tbought.

I thoroughly enjoy Ernie. The only place my experience differs is alcoholics having to go to Meetings. My personal experience is that I went in and out of alcoholic anonymous several times and when I finally didget sober I have Never Ever had to go to an alcoholic anonymous meeting. Because I always wanted to go to alcoholics anonymous meeting,. With a little over 20 years of sobriety meetings, have become a hobby. With the meeting guide app I catch meetings all over for the sheer pleasure. Have a peaceful 👼 and content day ☺️

NA and AA are cults

William Scofield!

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME: I KNEW AS IN 1986 AND AS MIRACLE I HAVE BEEN LIVING CLEAŃED FROM ALCOHOL SINCE THAT DATE THANKS GOD FOR GOODWILLING AS YOU ARE.

In my opinion there's a difference between an apology and an amends. A simple example: If I broke a window. I apologize for the behavior and then I pay for the broken window.

I've always been at odds with this 'recovery' bullshit concept (I know the real reason for its existence, is just as a gimmick to make money). I was a heavy beer drinker, for 25 years, then just quit, cold turkey, over a decade, ago. I neither went to AA, nor made application to any other 'aid,' and never had any problem. When this first became known, people would ask me how my recovery was going. I'd ask them, from what. They would then say my alcoholism. I'd tell them I no longer drank, so what was there to recover from, or still qualify me as an alcoholic. Life is life, so you just deal with whatever shit is there. I think most people who describe themselves as being 'in recovery,' merely use it as an affectation, with which to elicit sympathy and attention. The couple times I escorted some female friends to their first AA meetings (they were wary of going alone), all I saw was a milieu of mostly decrepit looking people, most of whom were demonstrably fucked in the head.

We are not a glum lot.

WRONG-read Jung,Ernie....

The "desire"for booze just left me at Rehab. I have come to believe that it was God did it. since I had become completely hopeless.

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AA obviously paid him to write a hagiography about them, though he purposely avoided mention of the many controversies surrounding it, particularly those involving Bill Wilson. Wilson was simply a con artist who started AA merely copying the Oxford Group, hoping only to make money from it. But when Rockefeller turned him down for the millions, he was hoping to get from him, Wilson apparently got pissed right off. I wonder if Kurtz even mentions the time Wilson himself broke one of their major traditions, by using the AA name and letterhead to send out promotional inquiries. The board was quite irate over that, I read. There is a plethora of other such tales, all so well-documented, even AA won't say anything, for fear of drawing even more unwanted attention, by a lawsuit (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect). As such, AA cites its tradition #10 (long form) as justification: "No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues-particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters, they can express no views whatever."

56 years sober only thing I’ve found wrong with AA is there’s Humans in it The Humans fail not the program

Great man but sadly AA doesn’t work, for the majority, the numbers reflect this. Thankfully there’s so many other options now.

AMAZING!!! Not everyone can be an alcoholic, you have to have certain characteristics and be willing everyday.......to be aware of everything and everyone around you...we are mostly spiritual before we drink, but an alcoholic does everything entirely....that s why we become alcoholics because we love it so much, but like anything.....too much of anything is destructive........AA is a hard school, you have to be a god damm marathin runner....and work at it Everyday!!!! Thanks Ernie, great talk!

Aa fanboy sickophant!!!

Ernies such a warm human being. He can touch you so much it feels like he is actually on your sofa and not in your utube. His tender voice gentle smiles honesty humour. So lovable.

Why is his book callec Not God. He doesnt sound like an atheist

Id rather control over some things eg my method of dying my bodys physical pain levels my emotional states financial capacity to make ends meet my loss of appetite. AA never worked for my addiction to cigarettes nor did begging God on my knees day after day for decades on and off

Marty Mann relapsed later as did Ebby and im not sure what happened Roland Hazard who went to see Carl Jung.

Excuse me, but nobody told me go to AA. I knew Id a drink problem. I rang GSO and got the address znd time of a meeting. I arrived and half way thru hour, i ssid i feel rescued. Unfortunately i relapsed 3 weeks later and struggled many years to get just 2 years sober.

And AA "sell something to you" as well: the idea that you're forever broken and unless you return to fund, provide free labour, turn a blind eye to horrific criminal behaviours, ignore the creepy old timers hitting on, sell drugs to, and abusing young, vulnerable females the same age as their granddaughters you will "die, be institutionalised or go to gaol." AA is a cult. I spent 22 years in the cult and left a few years ago. I decided I didn't want to drink alcohol harmfully when I entered AA so I don't. Nothing to to with religion, spirituality etc. If anything it's the herd mentality of likeminded folk with a common purpose. AA's add on bells and whistles are engineered into the program to ensure its indoctrinated members keep coming back. AA works alongside the multi-trillion dollar global growth mental health industry. Where clowns with certificate level qualifications from third tier learning institutions pronounce diagnosis on complete strangers using campfire philosophies and mental torment. The quicker the cult of AA is consigned to the dustbin of history the better.

Thanks for your service to truth

Liked jungs be whole not perfect

Why want what someone else has. Why follow a so called shepherd unless one IS a sheep. Become yourself, not some fantasy of being a version of something another tells you to be.

She was marvellous

If it were cancer or diabetes u wouldnt be told to confess your sins and ask some God what ypure to do every day to serve his Will. Then try to become a perfect person though you know you cant. Plus if you dont do this daily you ll relapse. What BS. Yeh the 40% that are not prone to magical thinking.

Someone get this guy a drink of water.

I have listened and learned so much Mr.Kurtz and Mr white...I have passed on your tapes too many..Enormously grateful.

Marvelous!

Amazing mind and the best of humanity

"The Spirituality of Imperfection" best short book on spiritual principles ever written.

Kurtz started me on an inward path on the history of recovery;can't say enough about his protégé Bill White either.

One word... Honesty!

Man is God who shits.....EK

Love and thank you Ernie...Sober 50 years and still amazed....Bless Nell Wing...and Frank Mauser.:Essence of an Open Mind.

Amazing timeless wisdom. I would love the transcripts to these interviews. Thank you for this.

This man is a gifted teacher and a must-watch for all students of AA.

This is a delightful interview. I am endlessly grateful for the opportunity to listen to the wisdom and “language of the heart” spoken by Ernie Kurtz. Thanks for this Bill.

I've been reading this guy for twenty years....He is a treasure.

This song cuts to the heart of those who understand recovery. th-cam.com/video/EKRnCpmz7SU/w-d-xo.html

Wow here I am in 8/28/20 still sober and embracing my ACA as well. I still champion EK and William White too. Trying desperately to find work in the recovery field after years of being social services. I am finally authentic and this is my personal spiritual legacy.

Great book. Seems like a great guy, too. Thanks for posting.

R.I.P. Jim

That haircut is so fucked.

I enjoy EK greatly and he also is in recovery. I have had the pleasure of getting to know Bill via email. When you are the hunt and path you are demanded to meet these people. A spiritual quest if you will. I missed EK just before I got into recovery. He was an important figure in recovery history