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How To Add Bungee Retention To Any Pouch or Placard Including Esstac Kywis & Spiritus JSTA
We're big fans of kydex based magazine retention from companies like Esstac. At the same time, for airborne & maritime operations, FRIES, and for many agencies and departments, positive retention is required. There are also other situations where bungee retention is advisable or desirable so we designed Bungee Retention Adapters to create a solution for pouches and placards that do not include built in attachment points.
SHOP HERE: www.forge-concepts.com/products/bungee-retention-adapter
Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Why You Might Want Bungee Retention
01:05 Bungee Retention Adapter Sizing
02:25 How To Install
04:30 Adjusting Magazine Ride Height
05:10 Retaining More Than Magazines
06:45 Outro
There are several design features that make our adapters unique:
They work inside of pouches, like Esstac KYWIs that do not have hook/loop interfaces on both sides
By passing underneath the insert, they provide superior retention to solutions that just mount to the sides of the pouch. This also means you can use these to adjust the ride height of things like magazines in a placard or pouches like the Spiritus JSTA making them easier to access.
Tegris® tabs for attaching our High Grip Bungee Retainers. Tegris® is an advanced thermoplastic that is extremely strong, durable, and lightweight. It is also NIR compliant. This keeps the Bungee Retention Adapters slim making it easy to reindex.
Sizing Guide:
Measure the height of your pouch or placard to determine the size you need. The standard heights we offer correspond to the three Esstac sizes as well as most other major pouches and placards on the market e.g. Spiritus Systems, Ferro Concepts, Shaw Concepts, Crye Precision, Defensive Mechanisms, Agilite, etc.
-Short: 3.25-3.5" (Standard/Shorty Esstac)
-Medium: 4.25-4.5" (Midlength Esstac)
-Tall: 5.25-5.5" (Tall Esstac/most placards)
FAQs:
Q: Do these adapters work with XYZ carrier or pouch?
A: As long as the carrier or pouch has hook or loop on at least one side of the inside these will work.
Q: Do these work without kydex inserts, for example, my placard has an elastic insert to hold magazines?
A: Yes, as long as your pouch has hook/loop these will work. Any insert that has hook/loop on at least one side will work them as well.
Q: What's the difference between pistol and rifle Bungee Retention Adapters?
A: Pistol are 1" wide and Rifle are 2" wide - this is to match with industry standard pouches.
Q: Will these retain other items such as multi-tools, tourniquets, etc?
A: Yes, the High Grip Bungee Retainers are adjustable to the amount of tension you need for your application.
Q: Are the High Grip Bungee Retainers included?
A: Yes
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  • @Cam-pu8be
    @Cam-pu8be 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What lid organizer is that 👀

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Cam-pu8be it's part of the SO Tech Rapid Access Modular Medical Panel. One of our followers on IG figured it out. I just got given it so I didn't know.

  • @Grad3r
    @Grad3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When they will be in stock again?

  • @MichaelLeopold1
    @MichaelLeopold1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Easy install, useful piece of gear

  • @deltaraider87
    @deltaraider87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just received my hook today and really appreciated the handwritten note on the receipt!

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We appreciate every one of you who orders from us!

  • @m.aguirre3153
    @m.aguirre3153 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir, I see the video is about a year old so I’m late to the party but that tourniquet on the right side of the PC, with the white tab, looks to be a fake TQ. The left side looks real. Just get that checked if you’re still running it. I’d need a closer look to see if it’s real or not or just an older gen CAT, but still - check that out. Be safe.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate the note! It was an older gen cat. We keep some of those on hand for training ones, but not for actual use. Thank you again sir!

  • @SmokeyLE
    @SmokeyLE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the rifle retention be trimmed down for pistol or will it ruin stitching?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will damage the stitching. Would it probably still hold together - yes, but we strongly advise against this and recommend just ordering the appropriate pistol size!

  • @_Mordion_
    @_Mordion_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn that pouch that goes behind the placard is legit. I could fit my fruit snacks and crayons in there.

  • @post_singularity
    @post_singularity 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love it

  • @callsignyoda
    @callsignyoda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently purchased and use this system, and I would recommend greatly.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much, genuinely appreciate the support!

  • @orpheusepiphanes2797
    @orpheusepiphanes2797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this video just you showing the product and talking about how to use it. No stupid slomo of guys running around being badass with stupid music.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate the support! Just trying to make quality solutions for y'all.

    • @orpheusepiphanes2797
      @orpheusepiphanes2797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@forge_concepts It shows. Keep doing what youre doing :)

  • @s0bedrag0n
    @s0bedrag0n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $12 per bungee retention?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're $10.95 or $11.95 depending on size and that's for the Bungee Retention Adapter and our pull tab. These are less expensive than our V1s. If you've been following us for the last couple of years you'll know we're just about the only company in this space that haven't raised prices and this is actually the second solution that we've reduced price now that we're finding economies of scale as we grow. We do our best to keep prices reasonable. Thank you for watching and please reach out with any questions.

  • @Kraemer525
    @Kraemer525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When's the multicam restock coming?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should be within the next 3-4 weeks, hopefully sooner! Please make sure you're subscribed to our email newsletter on the website as we push restock notifications there!

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have them live on the site now!

    • @Kraemer525
      @Kraemer525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bought! Thanks!!@@forge_concepts

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kraemer525 thank you, we appreciate the support.

  • @FullSemiAuto357
    @FullSemiAuto357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:45 if 99% of the dudes commenting about this sort of stuff did that they'd have absolutely nothing left to talk about...

  • @TheMicktric
    @TheMicktric 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think it’d be possible to fit a flag in the pouch?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just tested with a standard 3x5 flag and it fit easily/with quite a bit of room. Please reach out with any other questions and thank you for watching!

  • @Dero561
    @Dero561 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you guys been out of stock for months now. What's the hold up?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      V2s are live on our site. Thank you so much for your patience.

  • @FactsOVERfeelings2024
    @FactsOVERfeelings2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn good video bro! 🔥

  • @alienspaceship858
    @alienspaceship858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the pouch you're using to hold your multitool. Is it also from esstac?

  • @tacticalveterinarian
    @tacticalveterinarian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is legit!!! I can see other uses including carrying breaching tools/sledge hammer and maybe a small compact litter? Consider offering a second slightly larger size to carry a rolled up litter or longer tubular nylon

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Charges and breaching tools have been the other main two use cases. We have considered expanding on the hybrid dangler/molle style, we will see. Appreciate the comment!

  • @stephenkozlowski5524
    @stephenkozlowski5524 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What size cummerbunds are those? I’ve seen a lot of conflicting word on which size to get.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Small/Medium. It depends on the plate carrier and how you mount the male tubes attachment. This is on a Spiritus LV119 on a 6' 200# guy with plenty of room to adjust.

  • @thejackofalltrades2692
    @thejackofalltrades2692 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should cut that extra plastic off the chemlight. Get rid of the unnecessary hook and it will make pulling it off the wire keeper easier

  • @anthonyslaney3724
    @anthonyslaney3724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ultra violet light attacks the chemistry over time, eventually killing the product. Thats why we produce them in foils.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does, and that's why we've talked plenty of times about prepping chems for missions and then changing them out. Use older ones for training if you want, but I'd never just leave a bundle on my belt for an extended period of time and trust them to work perfectly. That said, cyalume ones do last for a long ass time even with sun exposure.

  • @mutt9418
    @mutt9418 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't spend money on special equipment just buy some Para chord, cut it to like 10 inches, loop it through the chemlight's hole on the top, tie a square knot, and burn the knot so it doesn't slip. Then you put an S clip on your belt or plate carrier. Clip the Para chord tied to the chemlights into the S clip, and then you can use one hand to push down the S clip, slide out one of the loops of Para chord, Crack the chemlight with your hand and toss it. It's just Para chord, you can get 100ft for less than $10

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your comment. We cover this and other alternatives in the video and why we think keychain cables are a better method than 550 cord. Just a reminder that everyone doesn't have to like or use the same method to solve any problem. We present options, alternatives, and explanations. The end user gets the final vote and whatever makes you capable, efficient, and effective at your job is cool with us.

  • @Man_With_A_Harmonica
    @Man_With_A_Harmonica 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The velcro wing for micro adjuments is a life saver, setting up the AXL cummberbun is a little bit of abitch to keep doingover and over.

  • @1marMusa
    @1marMusa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why use this over paracord?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's easier to grab, especially with gloves and it also will not get snagged in zipper teeth.

  • @Sparkling_Willows
    @Sparkling_Willows 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take my money! This is exactly the solution that I have been looking for. Also offering the tubular nylon for purchase along with the pouch is a gift. Another great product. Love all your gear. Thank you.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, really appreciate it! Tag us in some kit pics when you've got it setup.

  • @deanhawk3217
    @deanhawk3217 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi great video again I have a question I saw your website for this and I would like to know if you will be doing this in different colours as my plate carrier's is Black and OG?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man! Yes, we are adding Coyote Brown, Ranger Green, Black and a Multicam restock in December!

    • @deanhawk3217
      @deanhawk3217 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your fast reply I will keep a look out on your website in December for the new colours @@forge_concepts

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deanhawk3217 just in case you haven't been on the site recently, we did add black, coyote and ranger green in December!

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you @@deanhawk3217 ! We appreciate the support.

  • @Billy4theWin11
    @Billy4theWin11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you get your esstac AR mag pouch to be horizontal in the thumbnail? What attachment type are you using?

  • @GTWGamer
    @GTWGamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @Nothing_141
    @Nothing_141 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the mounting options the TNT pouch offers! You guys keep making great solutions!

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, really appreciate the support!

  • @PJDonut117
    @PJDonut117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant wait for this to drop

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make sure you're subscribed to our email distro!

    • @PJDonut117
      @PJDonut117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @forge_concepts I definitely will, I can't wait to put this to work on the SAR team. it's awesome to have a simpler way to carry tubular nylon for patient packaging and evac.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PJDonut117 we've actually been talking about how to get the word out about this to the SAR community!

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PJDonut117 thank you for the support, really appreciate it! I think a lot of this is just about dudes sharing solutions that work with other guys.

    • @PJDonut117
      @PJDonut117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @forge_concepts No problem man. Word of mouth and lessons learned is super super important, especially the why behind everything. From what packs and chest rigs work better or just differently to why you should use this pouch or this water filter. The spread of information is vital no matter the community for sure.

  • @Nothing_141
    @Nothing_141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When does it drop?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're live on the site!

  • @Nothing_141
    @Nothing_141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that the roll one or is it something you guys are selling soon?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a unique pouch that we make. Can be used as a dangler or molle pouch.

  • @davidcagle618
    @davidcagle618 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best videos i've seen on setup. Great work man.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. We'll try to do more from the other dudes.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sigspearthumb1056 GRGs are grid reference guides. Just a way of marking structures or other things on a map.

  • @patrick6559
    @patrick6559 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the tabs you added to the ten speed pouches. Where do I find those tabs to sew on?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a custom thing we did in the shop. I'm not currently aware of a placard that offers that same functionality, but would love to know if there is one.

  • @RexGunderson
    @RexGunderson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BFG Marcos are good too

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely a viable solution for some applications.

  • @gonadsoflegend
    @gonadsoflegend ปีที่แล้ว

    My strap has way less elastic. Actually, it's completely different. There's no grommet hole. I got a plastic plate and screws.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      What you're describing is the True North Concepts thigh strap. Ours has more elastic and the mounting grommet making it substantially more comfortable and low profile.

  • @shramj
    @shramj ปีที่แล้ว

    Just subbed, you have one of the best planned out carrier setups out there. You put a lot of logical thought into your setup. I will be placing an order for some of the gear on your website, very simple well thought out options to make your carrier work better for you. I like how versitale your setup is, that is what I am aiming for. I like having the options of going slick but also being able to load up if need be.

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Genuinely appreciate the support.

  • @patrick6559
    @patrick6559 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the thumbnail of this video which 4 magazine placard is that? Thanks man.

  • @pmorin313
    @pmorin313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend using a hair dryer to loosen the retention on the insert before installing the adaptors?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on the type of mag you're using and how much retention you want. For glock mags I'll loosen them with a hair dryer. For sig, I actually find the tighter tolerance with the Bungee Retention Adapter works perfectly.

  • @ElijahsThrone
    @ElijahsThrone ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned some new tricks appreciate the knowledge

  • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
    @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank God. I love my KYWIs but sometimes I get paranoid and continuously push down on my mags to make sure they're still tight. Usually they are. USUALLY

  • @hyperajorge
    @hyperajorge ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the informative video! Helped me a lot 😎

  • @jed6rar
    @jed6rar ปีที่แล้ว

    if a guys carrying tape for just in case, wrap the tape around your lighter (or other item\s) saves carrying a full roll or even just to have a bit as a backup

  • @zve482
    @zve482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Base your mag count on how far your going. I’ll use my rig for 3 different situations. 1-Home defense 2-Headed to get supplies 3-Having to evacuate In those situations you can figure the ammo count you’ll need. The longer away the more you’ll need. Whoever has the most ammo wins.

    • @bandit8770
      @bandit8770 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow I wouldn’t have EVER thought of that!!!

    • @artkingdesingz94
      @artkingdesingz94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have 6 just because FAFO lol but no i agree. i think it depends on the situation and the time you think you'll spend out and about.

  • @jhutch1470
    @jhutch1470 ปีที่แล้ว

    My kit seems to be perfectly fine. I can't hear it over my tinnitus.

  • @anthonykopesky7533
    @anthonykopesky7533 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will these be available again?

  • @tuckerallen3621
    @tuckerallen3621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn. The most realistic and useful breakdown I’ve seen. Damn. Common sense. Thank you sir, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for and of course it’s not going to be exactly like your bc we are all different but. This just so close to home of how I would run it and nice to see it makes sense.🇺🇸

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate the comment man I'm glad you found it helpful

    • @tuckerallen3621
      @tuckerallen3621 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@forge_concepts absolutely, You keep it up man thank you

  • @goatgoeslarping3147
    @goatgoeslarping3147 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video bro! Quick question, kinda irrelevant… who makes the horizontal mag pouch seen in your thumbnail? Thanks homie🤙

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      Esstac, should be on their site.

  • @bodega87
    @bodega87 ปีที่แล้ว

    back in stock when?

    • @forge_concepts
      @forge_concepts ปีที่แล้ว

      We're working hard on a massive restock and realize that most of our solutions are sold out (y'all are amazing). Can't give a time yet but please subscribe to the newsletter on our site for early access.