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KIA EV6 4,000 MILE VEGAS ROAD TRIP (Part 3)
In the 3rd and final installment of our 4,000 mile Kia EV6 road trip, we head back home to Ohio from Las Vegas. The issues with Electrify America continue.
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KIA EV6 4,000 MILE VEGAS ROAD TRIP (Part 2)
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Part 2 of our 4,000 mile Kia EV6 road trip across the country. In this video we visit the Hoover Dam and the large Electrify America / Tesla Supercharger in Baker California.
KIA EV6 4,000 MILE VEGAS ROAD TRIP (Part 1)
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Grab some popcorn and join us for part one of our 4,000 mile Kia EV6 road trip from Ohio to Las Vegas Nevada. We experience some charging issues with Electrify America along the way. We also see some beautiful scenery. The EV6 road trips like a champ! Parts 2 & 3 coming soon.
Tesla Model S 70D Degradation Test
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Tesla Model S 70D Degradation Test We find out how the battery is holding up after 85k miles.
JAGUAR I-PACE HAZARD LIGHTS DC FAST CHARGING
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JAGUAR I-PACE HAZARD LIGHTS DC FAST CHARGING
Mitsubishi iMiEV Fast Charging Test DCFC CHAdeMO
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In this video I perform as DCFC charging test via the CHAdeMO port on the 2012 Mitsubishi iMiEV.
Tesla Model X 75D Supercharging Test
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In this video we charge the 2018 Tesla Model X 75D on a version 2 Supercharger to see what that charging curve is like.
Tesla Model X 75D Road Trip
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In this video you will follow along as we take a short (700ish miles) road trip in the 2018 Tesla Model X 75D.
Mitsubishi iMiEV (2012) Range Test
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In this video I perform a range test on a 2012 Mitsubishi iMiEV to see how the battery is holding up after 11 years and 43,000 miles.
Micro Center run in the 2015 Tesla Model S 70D
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In this video we took a quick trip to Micro Center to pick up some PC parts and to check out a EVGO station with the CHAdeMO to Tesla adapter.
Chevy Spark EV (2016) Cold Weather DCFC Charging Test
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In this video we are doing a quick DCFC test with the 2016 Chevrolet Spark EV to see how it behaves in cold weather with a battery that is at ambient (cold) temperature.
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Does the Kia not tell you where to charge and what percentage you will arrive at
It does, but it is a horrible implementation of route planning. Worst I’ve ever experienced.
I've watched your other videos and enjoyed them. I'm really interested in EV6. I asked you in a previous comment why you don't use the onboard nav and you said because it sucks. Also thd range of EV6 seems kinda low in the real world. And the charging station situation doesn't look great. I actually would rather buy ev6 than tesla but those issues really push me toward Tesla. Why did you choose an Ev6 instead? Thanks
I bought the EV6 as an additional car. I also own a Tesla Model S and a Jaguar I-Pace. I love them all equally for their own reasons. I bought a EV6 because I wanted to experience the EGMP 800V platform. Even with the charging issues that we experienced on this cross-country trip, the EV6 road trips much faster due to its charging speed/curve. Yes, a tesla can do 250kW but does not hold it very deep into the pack. With the EV6 and the EGMP platform, it is all about the charging curve, not the peak speed. If we are road tripping long distance and are in a bit of a hurry, we take the EV6. If we are not in any hurry, we take the I-Pace as it is a much more comfortable vehicle. We don't road trip the Model S very often. It is a legacy model and charges the worst between the 3 that I own. However, the Model S is great for shorter trips where you only need one or two charging stops as it has free supercharging for life. Don't be afraid of the current charging infrastructure. It is getting better every day. There are more and more stations coming online every day. Eventually, the EV6 will be able to use the Tesla SuperCharger network.
Squeaky steering wheel
Yep.
What is the app on your phone that tell you about the heat on the battery?
CarScanner. It is available for Apple and Android.
I appreciate the mountains of data that you have provided, and I’m intrigued that you chose your stops after charging. BUT, I don’t understand why you didn’t push your range further and charge deeper at each stop. If you explained it in your commentary then I apologize as I skipped over a fair amount of your footage, even though I saw part of every charging session. I would think that driving 140-170 miles a hop, then charging to 85 or 90% while eating and breaking would be more enjoyable. Safe travels!
The average distance between EA stations on that route is 90-120 miles. Between the speeds, wind and elevation changes, skipping a station wouldn’t be feasible or even possible in some situations. The realistic range of the EV6 in the above mentioned conditions is 200ish miles at 100% SOC. So in order to go longer distances than we did, would require nearly 100% charge at each stop. This would take more time in the long run. We did do several sub 90 mile jaunts, but this was out of preference. When driving this many miles in such a short number of days, stopping often is a welcome thing.
@@Everythingevs Thank you for your kind reply. We have a Volvo C40 with 240ish miles of range and a BMW iX with 340ish. Road trips happen in the iX. I guess we’re fortunate that we can skip the next charger, and then eat and deep charge to do it again. Again, I really appreciate the info you provided. I watched all three episodes, if only to see your charging experience. As always, safe travels!
@ViaBuenCorazon Thanks for watching!
congratulations on safe return. Budgeting charging time in my Volvo is completely different at 150kW max. I’m in it for the journey. i just make sure I have a book or a movie on the IPad. If i was in a hurry, I would rent an ICE or take the wife’s Soul.
The EV6 is great if you’re someone that doesn’t want to wait around to charge. Myself, it doesn’t bother me to take my time. I roadtrip my legacy Model S and I-Pace, both of which barely do 100kW, and enjoy road tripping them just as much as the EV6.
EA in the eastern part of the States, and, in the west, in larger cities, seems to be better for uptime and the accuracy of user reporting. For anyone planning on EA as their main network west of the Mississippi, be sure to check pole status on other apps besides EA’s app.
Correct. Always check the EA app and a third party app like PlugShare ahead of time.
What’s the epa range for your EV6?
310 Miles, which is extremely optimistic in my experience.
So at this day and age you don’t have a Cordless charger or a spot to sit your phone?
If you are referring to me plugging in the phone via USB, that is so I can use Apple CarPlay. The car does have a wireless charger, but not wireless CarPlay.
@@Everythingevs yes I just think at this stage of the game in Cars in general, no car maker should be doing that anymore. It’s like a passing of the time.We use to have cassette tapes the CDs the CarPlay. That’s just my opinion. However I love the look of it and you definitely get more bang for your buck. Much more affordable than my Lyriq that’s for sure.
EA isn’t eligible for NEVI funds.
I meant it as a general statement for all networks, but worded it poorly.
Have you dealt with battery fault on your IPace?
Yes. They’ve replaced one module so far. From speaking with a tech at a dealership that has done over 30 module replacements, it’s just a matter of time before I’ll have another fault and have to get another module replaced. On the I-Pace it’s not if a module will fail, it’s when. JLR needs to step up and replace the entire pack for vehicles with the fault, instead of continuing to put bandaids on it.
@@Everythingevs thank you. Mine won’t take a level 2/3 charge and will only charge on level 1. Appts are pretty far out. Hoping for some trick to diy it!
@@Everythingevs do you have any idea why it would take a slower charge rather than a fast one?
Seems to be dependent on the severity of the detected fault. When mine faulted, it limited the max SOC to 72% and disabled DCFC (LVL3), but I could still charge on LVL 1&2. Then I’ve seen reports of people only being able to LVL 1 charge, and some people where it disabled charging all together.
@@Everythingevs thank you
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It seems you stop around every ninety miles. Is that necessary with this car?
The car can go much further, but the spacing of the EA stations made it to where we needed to stop at almost every location along the route unless we wanted to sit at every other location and charge to 100%.
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How much are you spending at each stop?
5-15 minutes on average for charging depending on the gap to the next station. We ended up overcharging quite often, as the car charges faster than we can run in for a bathroom break.
I was wondering why you use your phone for the route planning instead of just put your final destination into the navigation for the car? Does it not do the route planning for you?
The Kia onboard route planning is horrendous. It will take you to all sorts of stations that are out of the way or low power. It will have you stopping at stations with 50%-70% SOC and tell you to charge to 100%. It is completely useless. The only onboard route planning that actually works good is Tesla.
Thanks for the information. Thanks for the video. That's kind of disappointing to hear. I was going back and forth between Kia and Tesla. Iike EV 6 better overall but that's a big disadvantage.
Well done, plenty of great information, especially for all the first timers out there.
Thank you for watching even though the video is a little rough. Recording, documenting and editing our road trips is definitely a learning curve for us.
Crafting excellent video is a full time job. You’re putting up a good show, don’t sweat the small stuff. Part 2 was fun, too.
How do you connect ABRP to the I-pace? A dongle? If so, what type?
Via a Bluetooth dongle. ABRP only supports specific ones. They have a list available on the app.
That was a good experiment. If anything, I'd advise you to level the sound during editing. Your volume was low, and you speak quietly, while the music was blasting every few minutes at twice the volume, to the point that I had to mute the video and follow it by the closed captioning. Otherwise, quite enjoyable and watchable.
Thank you for watching even though the video is a little rough. Recording, documenting and editing videos is a learning curve for me/us. Future videos will be a lot better as I/we get the hang of it.
What were your tire pressures on the trip?
38-40 PSI
Damn the sound is low and really bad and the music high after 30 min i have to stop watching 👎
Well aware of this, thus the disclaimer at the start of the video disclosing the audio issues. In parts 2 & 3 these issues were remedied.
Was your cameraman having asthma during the whole journey?
@galihpa lol. No. The mic kept disconnecting, so the audio defaulted to the phone mic which was right beside his face, especially in the car. And of course we didn’t realize this until after the trip. Parts 2 & 3 are a lot better, solved a majority of the audio issues.
yo~ ell trip!
Thank you for watching!
I got 106kW a week ago at 30% without hazards ON and it kept that rate for above 50% SOH, the battery was warm outside was hot, no cooling was ON, the fan was OFF all the time while charging.
Interesting. Curious to know what model year is your I-Pace? Have you had the H441 update?
@@Everythingevs 11/2019 HV400 HSE
That’s awesome that you’re able to get and hold those speeds when charging normally. Typically, the I-Pace drops down to 80kW around 10-20% SOC and hold there for a long while. Have you had to have any modules replaced in your HV battery?
@@Everythingevs I have a photo of the charger screen I took at 27% and 101kW, after like 30 seconds of charging... Later on it went to 106. As I said I plugged in becaues I was waiting for other reasons... Not to my knowledge, the car is all original, all updates and services done. It is low milage 44 000km/28 000miles, battery SOH shows as 96%
Maybe you lucked out with a good HV pack. I’m at 44k miles and the HV battery was replaced at 30k miles, right before I purchased it. Then, since I’ve owned it, they’ve had to replace a module in the HV battery. JLR seems to just keep putting on bandaids to keep the batteries alive instead of actually coming up with a long term solution. The NHTSA in the US has recently stepped in and launched an investigation. They will probably end up forcing JLR to replace all 2019 HV packs with the revised one from the 2023-2024 model years. Only time will tell.
Thanks! I think you might have unlocked a service mode that uses default charging parameters (around 1 C for the I-PACE). That would also explain the 93% cutoff that we've seen with other LG battery EVs using those cells.
Yeah, these LG cells (Bolt, I-Pace, Kona and a few others) don’t like high C-Rates. Typically the I-Pace drops to around 80kW (.9 C) around 10-20% SOC and hold that pretty deep. Nearly identical C-Rate as the Bolt. Kona holds 1C longer than the others typically do. And of course, all of these models have had or currently have battery recalls.
Would be nice to see a test without the hazards, same station and same %
This charging test video was filmed the previous day on the exact same station and cable. Jaguar I-Pace DC Charging Test th-cam.com/video/TuCVpyafDoY/w-d-xo.html
I tried this the other day and it had no effect. Have you had the h441 update?
H441 was completed a while back. Have also had a pack module replaced.
What app are you using to see battery temp?
ABRP (A Better Route Planner).
Interesting what app are you using for your data?
ABRP (A Better Route Planner) is the app being used in the video.
Wow I had no idea that the i-pace was charging like a Bolt. great content
The I-Pace uses the same LG cells as the Bolt. Recalled as well. The packs are failing left and right. This one threw a traction battery fault error code a couple days after this video was filmed. It is currently at the dealer awaiting cell replacement or entire pack replacement.
Tesla or lucid, nothing else, i bought a leaf years ago it was garbage, im glad i pace has been discountinued, overpricd trash
@@Everythingevs it is a shame that JAG did not improve the battery/I-Pace since 2019..
The question is, how do you open the freaking fast charge trap...
There is a lever between the driver seat and the door. If there isn’t one, then your car does not have fast charging. (All imievs have the door on the side of the car even if they don’t have the port)
Thank you for this video I just bought one of these cars and I'm learning everything I can
Glad to have been able to provide you with some info. How has your ownership been so far?
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Thanks for watching!
Just bought a ‘17 X 75D yesterday and was happy to see it road trips nicely. How did you plan your trips and charging? Good info in the video. Thanks!
When I road trip a Tesla, I just use the onboard Tesla route planning. I have found it to be the most accurate and worry free.
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Thanks for watching!
Hi im looking to buy a 2015 spark ev 2lt with aprox 55k miles. Id like your opinion and general thoughts the good bad or ugly. Thank you
Sorry for the late response. Just now noticed the comment. Did you end up purchasing a Spark EV? If so, I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
@@Everythingevs yes
I also have a 2012 with 44K on the odometer and I am lucky to get 37 miles per full charge. I do think I have some battery degredation going on, that pesky turtle pops up once and awhile.
Thanks for watching!
this channel is fun
Thanks for watching!
I'm considering getting a used SparkEV if things work out, been watching different Spark videos. Thanks for the info. I'm just after an extra vehicle, I only have a 3mile commute to work and my primary vehicle is an '86 Trooper, not much bigger than the Spark.
Did you end up purchasing a Spark EV?
@@Everythingevs Nope, the wife sat in it and said No Way.
New subscriber here also 😁 I have bought an 2011 IMIEV with 75.000 km on it, to use it as a second car and maybe a bit later as a home battery storge for my solar 😉 Didn't test the full range yet but it is at least 70 km mixt driving. Plenty for my 3 km grocery trip or any inner city driving
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching!
What app or module do you use to check the battery health? Looking into getting a used imiev, but hve no idea the health of the battery. Thanks much!
There are several apps out there that are able to read the battery data via a Bluetooth dongle. Once of which is carscanner. It is available for both Apple & Android.
Hello from London. I just bought (Sep 23) a 2nd hand 2013 Czero. Has done 35K miles and still gives 60 miles range when driven within the city, if I as much as look at the AirCon button, 10 miles disappear. What still amazes me is getting a full charge (12Kw) for under £2 when using in my Eco tariff at home.
Thanks for watching!
What is the battery range for this model?
EPA rating when new was 238 miles.
What is your range right now? I’m looking to buy a 2018 model x 75D with 70,000 miles.
I no longer have it. It was a long-term loaner from Tesla. I only had it for about 5 months.
That sucks that the Least doesn't use AC to cool the battery when fast charging. I wonder if there is a way to trick the system to do it
Definitely a flaw on the Leaf. Not sure why they chose a passively cooled pack when nearly everyone else was using some kind of active cooling. They continue to use the passively cooled battery even in the 2023 Leaf.
It's a shame the Nissan Leaf don't use Ac to cool it's battery pack,big miss opportunity if you ask me,and yeah I own a Leaf,gonna sell soon perhaps.
Definitely a flaw on the Leaf. Not sure why they chose a passively cooled pack when nearly everyone else was using some kind of active cooling. They continue to use the passively cooled battery even in the 2023 Leaf.
@@Everythingevs 😔big miss opportunity.
Thanks for the video. I am a 75d owner and I can’t get over 170miles on a full charge driving mostly on flat road. I saw when you reached your first charge session you had 11% left with 202 miles driven which is great! How much percent battery did you leave with and what do you get out of a full charge on your X?
Thanks for watching. The charging session that shows 202 miles is actually the second session in the video. You may have missed the first one. I had this X for about 3 months while my S was in the shop. I was able to get 160-180 miles on a full charge. The battery seemed to have been degraded a bit as it showed 198 miles when at 100%.
why does it stop at 80% and not fully charge
That is the way Mitsubishi designed it. Not sure on the reasoning. You can start a new session and it will go up to about 90%.
If I find one that does 50 miles, I will buy it.
I would shoot for a 2014 or 2016. Best chance of having less degradation.
average 15kW and about 50km of range added in 25min. if it started on a full battery, drove 100km and than charged at that rate, it would have finished a 500km trip in right about 11h.
Definitely a slow charger compared to modern EVs. Was high speed when the iMiEV originally launched.
@@Everythingevs its like tier 1 only back then, unless ya make 220v 40kw charge box
It's weird that the Guess-O-Meter is overestimating your range instead of being more conservative like most EV GOMs. As you saw, that can get you into trouble! But, I think we have to cut the i-MiEV some slack considering how early in the game they were and how a lot of that stuff had not been dialed in yet. My 2018 Kia Soul EV seems to under-guess by about 10%, to stay safe.
Typically the GOM on the iMiEVs are pretty accurate. I have owned 3 of them (2 currently). I have found the issue on this one (bad cell that’s dropping below bottom voltage) and am working on a video about it. It’s an issue that can be fixed, and will be fixed in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@Everythingevs Good to know.
Happened to me a few times when I owned one. The battery would die sometimes BEFORE the turtle showed up. Had to push my car a couple miles home twice in a couple of years 🤣 Thank the Lord the car was light!
O no randy from auto auction rebuilds bought one and it was in turtle mode
I saw that video. Unfortunately there isn’t anything to be done about it besides replace the bad modules in the battery.
lol you only have the sound coming out the one side, nice bro. It's not me either, I checked.
I am aware. The right channel on the mixer was turned down all the way. Didn’t realize until afterwards. Too late to do anything about it at that point.