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C&S Ry Northern Division
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2022
An HO scale model railroad capturing the Colorado & Southern Ry from Denver to Longmont CO in 1958.
For track plan, construction, operations and much more about this layout, visit the website shown on the channel banner.
For track plan, construction, operations and much more about this layout, visit the website shown on the channel banner.
Turning a Diesel Locomotive on the HO Scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 8
Engine 9941B arrives with the Shoshone on the C&S Railway Northern Division -- the first of 10 passenger trains through Denver's Union Station each day. The Rice Yard engine facility hustles to supply the motive power for this demanding schedule.
Luckily, powerful diesel locomotives can be serviced -- "turned" -- 4 times faster than steam locomotives. The Engine Foreman walks us through the action as he quickly readies the streamlined workhorse for its next assignment -- the Texas Fast Mail. Don't blink or you might miss this locomotive pit stop!
See "Turning a Steam Locomotive" (episode 2) for the other half of the Engine Foreman job. You'll see why it's a very popular position with our regular operating crews.
In 1958, the Colorado & Southern Railway used time tables, train orders, and operating rules to move trains up and down the Colorado Front Range. The operating crew of the C&S Ry Northern Division model railroad replicates this system on the layout. This is a sample of their efforts.
See the C&S Northern Division website for track diagrams, photos, and more: csrailway.com/
0:00 Intro
0:37 Arriving with Train No. 30
1:06 Moving Across the Yard
2:22 Into the Service Bay
3:21 Fuel & Sand
3:40 Called for No. 17
4:38 Departing for Texas
5:45 Dedication & Credits
Luckily, powerful diesel locomotives can be serviced -- "turned" -- 4 times faster than steam locomotives. The Engine Foreman walks us through the action as he quickly readies the streamlined workhorse for its next assignment -- the Texas Fast Mail. Don't blink or you might miss this locomotive pit stop!
See "Turning a Steam Locomotive" (episode 2) for the other half of the Engine Foreman job. You'll see why it's a very popular position with our regular operating crews.
In 1958, the Colorado & Southern Railway used time tables, train orders, and operating rules to move trains up and down the Colorado Front Range. The operating crew of the C&S Ry Northern Division model railroad replicates this system on the layout. This is a sample of their efforts.
See the C&S Northern Division website for track diagrams, photos, and more: csrailway.com/
0:00 Intro
0:37 Arriving with Train No. 30
1:06 Moving Across the Yard
2:22 Into the Service Bay
3:21 Fuel & Sand
3:40 Called for No. 17
4:38 Departing for Texas
5:45 Dedication & Credits
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Foreign Road Local on the HO Scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 7
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In 1958, the Union Pacific Railroad runs a local freight train to Boulder Colorado every afternoon. But the pioneer railroad no longer reaches Boulder on its own tracks. The Union Pacific rolls the last two miles on tracks of the Colorado & Southern Railway. The UP has trackage rights over C&S rails between Ara and Boulder. And as a "foreign road", UP crews run by the C&S operating rules and ti...
Train Time in Boulder on the HO Scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 6
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It's June 1958, and America still travels by train. And Train No. 30, the southbound Shoshone, is the premier passenger train on the Northern Division. Before it reaches its terminal in Denver, it has a final station stop in Boulder Colorado. A small college town of about 30,000, Boulder springs to life when No. 30 arrives. Enjoy the action in and around the downtown Boulder Depot as passengers...
Long Train Running on the HO Scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 5
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Number 46 is a non-clearing train too long to fit in any siding. Worse, No. 46 is a low priority freight, with a crack passenger train and high priority freight train both headed its way. With night falling, No. 46's train crew has no place to hide. Luckily, the Dispatcher has a plan. And a simple one at that. Ride along with train crewmen as they execute the Dispatcher's train orders that keep...
Thru Freight Ballet on the HO Scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 4
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Eight trains. Five meets. And no train orders. Enjoy the day and night action as passenger and freight trains meet on the single track main line between Denver and Longmont Colorado. Ride along with train crewman Carl on his three freight runs on a June day in 1958. The Colorado & Southern Ry. Northern Division is running smoothly, and eight trains will make five meets on this busy day. These t...
Sugar Beet Local Freight Run on the HO scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 3
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The Beet Run dodges superior trains to reach Niwot Colorado, where work awaits on the C&S Ry Northern Division HO scale model railroad. Not so easy the Beet Run is an unscheduled extra train, and must stay out of the way of all other traffic. While Denver's Rice Yard readies the Beet Run, train crewman Carl receives his train orders. Follow along as Carl plans his trip and then runs to Niwot wi...
Turning a Steam Locomotive on the HO scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 2
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End-of-Steam locomotive servicing is featured at Denver's Rice Yard on the C&S Ry Northern Division HO scale model railroad. Engine number 6308 arrives at 5:23 am and needs to be serviced "turned" before it can depart with its next train. The Engine Foreman walks us through the action as he readies the 2-10-2 steamer for train No. 41, departing at 9:20 am. See how animation and sound effects ma...
A Cab Ride on the HO scale Colorado & Southern Ry - Ep 1
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This "engineer's view" of my Colorado & Southern Railway HO scale model railroad travels the main line from Denver to Longmont Colorado. Captions call out features along the right of way in this fourteen minute tour. See the C&S Northern Division website for track diagrams, photos, and more: csrailway.com/ 0:00 Start 0:26 Rice Yard & Denver Colorado, MP 0 2:04 Prospect Jct, MP 1 3:14 Utah Jct, ...
where did you get the telephones from?
The telephone poles are Rix Products, and the utility poles are Walthers Scenemaster. I follow the methods described by Jeff Wilson in "Make accurate utility poles and wires". That's a PDF downloadable from Model Railroader. I especially like the glass-like insulators you can achieve with a base of metallic silver followed by a glossy blue-green acrylic. But I don't string wires -- too many hands and sleeves to catch during operations.
Super. An incredible layout. Your railroad is my railroad, only ten to twenty years earlier. I model the Colorado & Southern from Denver, Colorado north to Cheyenne, Wyoming, the Denver & Rio Grande Western west from Denver, Colorado, with both the Tennessee Pass (Royal Gorge) route and the Moffat tunnel route, through Grand Junction, Colorado, over Soldier Summit and on to Salt Lake City, Utah, and also the Great Western of Colorado, plus the Denver & Interurban's kite shaped trolley line. The C&S line ran through my hometown of Berthoud, Colorado, about fifty miles north of Denver, and while I was too late for the E and F units, I got to see the SD-7 and SD-9 units pound by my house in their magnificent Blackbird and Chinese red Chicago, Burlington & Quincy paint schemes, (With a tiny "C&S" on each side of the cab.) and I watched steam locomotives on the GW doing sugar beet hopper switching and freight duty. I never saw any C&S passenger trains go by, but I did get to see quite a few passenger cars headed for the GW car shop in Loveland, Colorado, sometimes three or four at a time, tacked on behind the wide vision caboose, which was a real treat. A normal freight would have one EMD SD-7, one EMD SD-45, two GE U-boats, and one EMD SD-9, be 100 cars long, and would rattle my house as it passed by. The incredible sound and impressive roar of a single SD-7 pulling a long local freight up Derby hill to Berthoud from the Big Thompson River Valley in Loveland would actually alter your heartbeat, vibrate your body and the ground, and make you temporarily deaf. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
Thank you Tracy. You sure have a wealth of wonderful memories. Those were the days!
💙 T.E.N.
This might be my new favorite channel on TH-cam. Love your operation, thanks for going the extra step to share with the rest of the hobby on here!
Thank you Darren. I'm happy to share the fun and glad that you enjoy it!
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was really cool watching the bridge flex a little when the E8 went over it!!!
Thanks! That's one of those little things you only notice in a video close up -- part of the fun.
Okay - JUST DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF I'VE NEVER SEEN WITHOUT WARNING!!!!! That phone thing is cool as heck. I've seen them on layouts (maybe one or two) but never seen them used, and I've watched many 100's of layout videos!!!
Sounds like you like to be surprised Cliff. :-) We'll try to shock you again in future videos! Thanks!!!
I absolutely love the scene of Union Station, (I am in Colorado and enjoy the CB&Q as well as C&S And FW&D) as well as the professionalism of this operation. Absolutely terrific.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. The operating crew strives to reproduce the jobs and actions of the C&S Northern Division in 1958.
I love that your name is Burlington Route. Big fan of the CB&Q and the C&S/FW&D. 💙 T.E.N.
Beautiful loco. I initially took turning the loco more literally when I first started to watch, 2:22AM, I guess it’s bedtime, lol. That was a really great video and a perfect tutorial on for anyone running pro typical ops sessions. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you! If the next passenger train had been northbound, you'd have gotten your literal turning too. Perhaps in the next video. :-)
This is a very profesional video and a great layout!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I worked a second trick yard clerk job in Rice Yard Aug to Oct 1980, joint C&S / ATSF facility (we never saw ATSF). Old heads I worked with would still answer the phone "hello, Colorado and Southern" sort of ignoring the Q much less the BN merger. Worst memories were trying to stay awake with all the inactivity. It was so dead most of crew would watch a TV smuggled into small room in the round house that appears in this video. I wondered when St Paul would get around to closing the place, which they did, selling the land to become Elitch Gardens.
You've got some history there. I went down to RY two or three times in the late 1980s to take some photos of the remains and measure some foundations for the missing steam locomotive facilities. It was completely abandoned. In the 1990s, Elitch Gardens Amusement Park ran their first season or two with the turntable bridge decorated with lightbulbs. Everything else was gone, obviously, and so was the TT bridge soon after that.
How did you get your custom station announcements to play? I doubt it's from the decoder...
That's a Brass Hat Announcer at about 4:42 in the video. You can see the Union Station master press the button for Number 17 in that scene. (BHA was made by Boulder Creek Engineering, which is now out of business.)
Nicely done! Love the old-timey music...it give the a great period instructional film feel.
Thank you! Exactly the flavor I was after. I'm glad you enjoyed.
The CB&Q was well known for achieving high levels of utilization of rolling stock. As an example the Morning Twin Cities Zephyr was turned at Minneapolis in 30 minutes. Their maintenence procedures was an early form of what we call Reliability Centered Maintenance.
Yes, and one more reason for the rapid move to diesels for passenger service. Along with marketing pizazz, lower labor costs, ...
Old Proto E8 with dual filament mars light.
Yep! I think I bought it (along with two others) in the late 1990s.
Excellent run, especially the night scenes
Thank you! Filming the night scenes are challenging, but I like the results too. And it gives a real sense of our layout operations. We operate both day and night sessions, with computer controlled sunrise and sunsets. The nights are shorter than the days though, as it's mid June on the layout right now.
Your railroad reminds me of Mike Spoor's CB&Q Chicago and Aurora division model railroad. The second story of his town home in Houston Texas was where he built it. The first time I saw it all I did was take pictures of his hand painted backdrops. His backdrops is where I got the ideas to paint my backdrops for my model railroad The Santa Fe Mid-Texas Division.
Thank you. Mike was an inspiration and wonderful information source for many of us, especially those of us modeling the Burlington Lines. I've always admired Mike's backdrops in print and video, though I never saw them in person. It's an honor to be compared to Mike and his modeling.
These videos are so fun. I hope you guys have a great time making them! Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoy them, we do too!
Great video! Love the switching between looking at the loco moving and the cab-view of the same movement. And truck journals that actually move?! Very nice!
Thank you! That's a vintage Life Like Proto 2000 E8 -- and I never appreciated the moving journals until this video too! That is an unexpected "happy accident" of the camera.
Cool video and channel just subscribed
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you.
Great camera work on this layout. Fun to watch.
Thank you very much Martin. These videos are fun to make too!
Always enjoy your videos. Helping me learn how operations/car cards work. Thanks.
Thanks Jeff. I always try to put something new in every video.
Some great video again ! Too bad the Santa Fe hadn't any trackage rights north of Denver, otherwise my three favorite RRs would be on screen !😉
Thank you! We do run Santa Fe trains between Rice Yard and South Denver, so you'll see the ATSF in a future video.
What a great layout! I love the workaday, the mundane. It's so much more interesting than the mainline passenger and freight stuff to me.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Super. I was too late to see the C&S passenger service, but I watched the EMD SD-7 and SD-9 locomotives (Blackbird and Chinese Red CB&Q "Burlington, Way of the Zephyrs, and Everywhere West" paint with a little "C&S" on the cab sides) pulling local freights through Berthoud, Colorado, (North of Niwot, which has an old wood C&S cupola caboose) and sometimes leading an SD-45, two U-boats and another SD-9 with 100 covered hoppers or four bay coal hoppers in tow. P.S. Model railroads aren't finished, they are a way of life. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. (D&RGW meets C&S meets GW of Colorado.) 💙 T.E.N.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! I know Berthoud well -- next town north of Longmont. Just a bit too far for my basement. :-)
Great video! Also, is the track in boulder dual gauge or just a derail guard rail?
Thank you! That is dual gauge... standard and 3-foot narrow. The switches in Boulder are hand-laid. Fourteen switches and 28 frogs. Some switches have one frog, others two, and others have three!
@@CSRYfan will we ever see any narrow gauge action?
I hope to have some NG action in the future.
Bless the algorithm, this is the best channel to hit my recommendations in a hot minute. I can't think of any other model railroading videos that are this immersive and well-directed!
From your pen to the algorithms eye (ear?). Thank you!
Yay he's back!!!! Been excited for when a new video would show up 😊
Yah, a bit of a hiatus while finishing the Boulder Depot. Glad you are enjoying the series!
In picking up the mail car in Shoshone, the engineer did not come to complete stop before changing direction during coupling. No time to connect air hoses. Good thing the transmission held up. Otherwise, nice video cleverly done. Congrats!
Actually, that was a "cross-dissolve" between clips to imply elapsed time and keep the video crisp. I inadvertently made the cut between clips so that the first mail car was superimposed on itself, which made it look like the engineer did not stop. That was an error on my part. There were actually minutes between the clips as that pick-up was a bit down the track. You can see its position in the scene when the Shoshone arrives and passes the station. So the engine and first mail car had to "go deep" to get it. I'll get better at this!
The audio really adds to the video. I bet that took some time to do. Excellent!!
Thank you Peter!
My God--Chatty Cathy HO people! DCC-sound equipped!
Nah, no DCC decoder people. They're DC. ;-) Glad you enjoyed the video!
Nothing better than Burlington E units. Nicely done
Thank you! And just a bit of weathering makes them perfect. :-)
Congratulations for completing your railroad ! (from one who has never completed any 😁)
Thank you! It does take a long time... for me anyway.
Always enjoy your videos. Congratulations on finishing the layout! Hope you'll keep making videos!
That's the plan! And thank you for your support!!
No layout is every totally completed !!!
Well done!
Thank you -- glad you enjoyed it!
Really good, I smell an academy award
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
What a great video. Never realized the complexity of some people’s jobs and the knowledge they have to retain to perform that job . Excellent
Thanks Tony! Model train operations need to be complex enough to keep it entertaining and engaging -- but not any more than that!!!
Hallo ,hier ist der Rainer aus Germany, ich finde es großartig wie realistisch ihr Eisenbahnbetrieb macht ,einfach herrlich euch zu zuhören und zu sehen, macht weter so , eine besinnliche Weihnacht und angenehme Feiertage, herzliche Grüße aus Erfurt in Germany
Rough translation from Google Translate: "Hello, this is Rainer from Germany, I think it's great how realistic your railway operations are, it's just wonderful to hear and to see, keep it up, have a merry Christmas and pleasant holidays, warm greetings from Erfurt in Germany." Danke Rainer! The same to you and yours this holiday season.
That was awesome! Wish I could give 5 thumbs up :)
I do too. :-) Thank you!
Bravo guys that was absently fantastic. i am so impressed with your attention to detail in regards to the communication. makes it all the more immersive.👏👏
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. And the communication details are part of what makes operations fun.
Is the rice yard coaling tower built from drawings or just guesstimated? I've wanted to build a model of it for a while and was wondering if drawings may be available somewhere
The RY Coaling Tower was guestimated from photos, on-site foundation measurements, and an 8x11" 1948 C&S Ry drawing of basic measurements I found at the Colorado RR Museum. My July 2004 Model Railroader article describes how I built the animated model, and includes the scale drawings I created. This iconic structure is in a ton of locomotive photos from the 1950s, so no depiction of Rice Yard is complete without it. It was well worth the effort!
@@CSRYfan awesome! July 2004, gonna have to pick that one up. I've always been more of a UP guy and I'm still learning all the sources for Q/C&S reference material. I have a 902 just begging to be photographed and this scene seemed perfect. photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mKp9JS3/3/O/i-mKp9JS3.jpg
Yep, that's a famous (among C&S fans) photo by M. C. Trent. No. 902 is under the coaling tower on the night of November 21, 1958. This photo was used on the album cover of "All Steamed Up".
Super. I grew up in Berthoud, Colorado, and got to watch the C&S/CB&Q trains every day, along with Great Western. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
That's a great town, with a nice C&S Ry station. I've taken a few photos there.
Thank you for that format - learned a lot!
I'm glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful.
As a fellow Q modeler I really enjoyed this video. Great job on the scenery too
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Commendations for your demonstration of an adaptation of the complex prototype method of creating, verifying and delivering train orders.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Some nervous moments 😅 but in the end the crew were just too well drilled only thing missing was a coffee in everyone’s hands 👍👌😃
Thank you. They are a good crew, and they really make these videos special. I'm lucky to have them.
I've heard this maneuver called a "saw-by." Do you use the term on the C&S?
Yes, but usually only if there is a forward and back. For example, No. 46's crew was probably out of time to get to Valmont before No. 45 was due to leave. Without train order no. 16, No. 46 would have to pull out to clear No. 23's departure at Niwot, and then back in to clear the arrival of No. 45. THAT is a saw by.
@@CSRYfan Thank you for replying. That's not what I learned in John Allen's books on realistic operation. In fact, if I recall the illustration in Track Planning for Realistic Operation correctly, the short train pulled into the siding and then long train went around it. Your example at Niwot was an interesting alternative. One could imagine a line where all the trains in one direction are longer than the sidings but not the other, such as when a steep grade limits train length or most short trains are going in one direction and the long trains are empties, such as on the Minnesota Iron Range. Making one empty train from two formerly loaded trains could be a great way to cut crewing costs. If you don't have dynamic braking, such as when using steam power, taking an extra heavy train down a steep grade, like the 2% grade down to the Lake Superior ore docks at Duluth, MN, could be unsafe.
Ah yes, figure 3-5 in John Armstrong's Track Planning for Realistic Operation. I had to look it up. :-) I'm not one to argue with the Dean of Model Railroad Planning, so I'll concede to his definition of saw by. :-) I will say that which train goes on the siding is operation dependent and subject to change by the Dispatcher. In the case of the meet at Niwot, the short train was No. 23, a first class passenger train. 23 took the main track, as the superior train. It also had a scheduled stop for passengers, and the depot is on the main track. Standard operating procedure for No. 23.
@@CSRYfan That's fascinating, especially with the wrinkle of having a passenger train making a scheduled stop during a meet. I hope your videos help more people realize that operating model trains realistically is fun.
Great video and editing! The story line makes it easy to follow along. Your layout looks fantastic. Do you know/follow Mark Pruitt up in Casper, WY? He's modeling the CB&Q and C&NW in Wyoming.
Thank you! I don't know Mark -- sounds like another modeler following his hometown railroad like me.
Bravo!! Good work!
Glad you liked it! Thank you very much.
These are Great, keep ‘‘em coming!
Thanks Steve -- will do.
Great example of T&TO operations. Being a N scaler CB&Q fan, your video is great fun !
Thank you very much!