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How to Fix Blackstar HT5 Low Output
Not an easy amp to fix but I got there eventually
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  • @harveysvintageaudio
    @harveysvintageaudio 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice channel, just subscribed.

  • @stewarttyler6445
    @stewarttyler6445 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Had the same with an Orange OR200 amp. Worked fine up to half power then major distortion. Replaced output tranformer at a huge cost but it is a 200w amp and no problems.

  • @bernardstokes6550
    @bernardstokes6550 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting, especially as these amplifiers are considered to be one of the reference amplifiers of their day but the gentleman seems a little unfamiliar with them.. Incidentally it was 10.605 squared....Keith Snook supplies a modern replacement for C4 and C6 in an identical housing to the original....

  • @cybersnake
    @cybersnake 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Funnily enough I diagnosed the exact same problem in my HT5R Combo last week. I'm not paying £75 for their crappy OT though! The Hammond 125B is a direct replacement if I'm not mistaken.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That's very useful thanks. I'll make a note of it for next time.

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting OT failure.

  • @will523
    @will523 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every SMT component amp chassis is a foundation for a point to point all tube circuit. Install a power amp resistor on the output jack to prevent a no load scenario. Great work sir!! You made this amp alive again!! :)

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. Hmmm I feel a 120 tube project coming on...

  • @MidnightVisions
    @MidnightVisions วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blackstar has a terrible reputation. So many amp techs refuse to service them

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely not my favourite. Worst amp I've seen so far is Fender Bassbreaker 15

  • @vihuelamig
    @vihuelamig วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can try aluminium foil dipped in water on rusted chrome, rub away. The bicycle lot use it for their vintage bikes. Of course it won't bring back the chrome plating but it does improve the appearance.

  • @DublinGothic
    @DublinGothic วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Stuart.This tutorial worked for me.From silent to sound.

  • @vihuelamig
    @vihuelamig วันที่ผ่านมา

    Crikey, it's just an amp. 1968 colour TV's had less components than that thing.

  • @onusgumboot5565
    @onusgumboot5565 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually I do have one of those. Actually mine has two sockets. Anyway my question to everyone I run across. I have a blues junior. It hums fairly loud when warmed up. With the back still on, If I put my hand, or a couple of fingers, between the driver tube and power tube, it stops. Any idea what this indicates is the problem. I'm guessing a capacitor/capacitance issue of some sort, but haven't figured out a solution. Maybe a ground issue? Thanks in advance for any ideas.

  • @onusgumboot5565
    @onusgumboot5565 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I ask this everywhere I can. I have a blues junior. It hums when warmed up. If I put my hand in between the driver tube and power tube it goes away. Sometimes completely, if I hold it in just the right spot. Any ideas as to what this indicates?

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm guessing you mean with the back off? Yes I've had this several times and tried to narrow it down but with no luck I'm afraid. That whole input circuit near V1 is very sensitive.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      BTW you're introducung an equal and opposite hum via the 'capacitor' of your hand, that's why it goes away in just the right spot.

    • @onusgumboot5565
      @onusgumboot5565 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Thanks for responding. Actually, no. With the back on, I can put my hand in between the tubes and it stops. Well a couple of fingers anyway, and it stops completely. With the back off, it doesn't stop as easily, but is reduced. I figured my hand ws adding capacitance somehow, but would that indicate a bad cap, or a capacitance issue in that part of the circuit? If you do this for a living and haven't been able to solve it, I may just be out of luck.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@onusgumboot5565 Ah ok. No I don't think it';s a bad HT cap, that produces a definite hum which I don;t think would be offset by what you are doing. It's one of those things that without the anp up on the bench it's hard to say. I had one in the other day though with this exact problem and I'm blowed if I could solve it!

  • @edwardhannigan6324
    @edwardhannigan6324 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice work Stuart...Bit of a pig those Blackstar amps..😮..😅..Ed..uk

  • @tommyausburn
    @tommyausburn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always, your videos are very helpful and encouraging!

  • @michaelevans3852
    @michaelevans3852 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stuart, It's always exciting to see new content from you. I think the fact that you show the process you use and explain the issues simply is why so many people watch you. I know I've learned a lot watching your channel. This was interesting, but I don't know if I would have clipped a new transformer like you did. However, I'm a novice and voltages scare me. Always informative and entertaining. Thanks, Mike

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Mike Yes super dangerous what I did, but of course I was very careful and checked all connections wer ok before switching on. Not for the faint hearted!

  • @aidab7258
    @aidab7258 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice!! I have an amp with the same problem. Do you have a shop? Can i send you mine?

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi I work from home. You can send it i you want but not until after 20th October. At the end of every video there's a splash screen with my email. You can contact me via that. Thanks

  • @brivington2011
    @brivington2011 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great job! I’ve heard that Blackstar does not provide schematics, is that true?

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually have one but yes, they don;t supply them. Can;t have other engineers stealing those top secret ideas like using op amps and FETs 'n' stuff, can we???

    • @tjsogmc
      @tjsogmc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brivington2011 I worked for a manufacturer that scrupulously guarded their designs like it was a covert CIA operation. I guess they didn't want the competition to know that the machine hydraulics were straight out of the Bosch -Rexroth handbook available to the public.

  • @Swodie_Jeetin
    @Swodie_Jeetin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Consumer electronics mentality. They knew when they made these that they were destined for the landfill in 10 years or so but hey, you can't sell as many new amps if your old ones last too long and are readily available on the used market. People love to bash Mesa for lack of repairability, but smt components are the mark of a true sociopath imo.

  • @DennisCameronMusic
    @DennisCameronMusic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To remove the FET's without damaging the pads, just clip the leads off and then de-solder each lead and pull it out. It'll save you de-laminating the through hole pads and possibly damaging the barrel. By the way, I learn much from your channel, thanks!

    • @moroboshidan7960
      @moroboshidan7960 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wish as I had read this comment before I fixed my Bugera G5, which is probably based on this amp. Yeah, mistakes were made, things were learned. Now the MOSFETs are wired and mounted on heatsinks at the upper side (where the tubes are). The board is a bit messed up, I didn't want to risk messing that area again

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Dennis Ah yes, of course I know that trick but had somehow forgotten it this time!

    • @tjsogmc
      @tjsogmc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 I'm sure you've forgotten more than most of us will ever know.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tjsogmc Ha ha! I expect you too have an area of expertise about which I know zippo!

    • @jutukka
      @jutukka วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DennisCameronMusic Sometimes it helps if you instead of sucking solder away just add solder first to every pad, then it can be possible to enough heat them all at the same time and pull the component out. Sometimes those holes really are very small and tight and the leads can get very much stuck in them.

  • @faultlessguitarsandamps1116
    @faultlessguitarsandamps1116 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just had a Blues Junior doing the same . I also didn't at first think it would be the OT transformer .

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I rarely suspect the OT as they don;t often go. Just had another one today though on a Marshall!

  • @waynegram8907
    @waynegram8907 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those FETS that you replaced do what to the phase splitter section?

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My best understanding is that the 12BH7 is in push-pull mode but is being driven by 2 power FETS in the cathodes which act as a phase-splitter.

    • @waynegram8907
      @waynegram8907 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Using two POWER FETS as a phase splitter/phase inverter is very unusual for guitar amplifiers. I think maybe Music Man amplifiers from the late 70's used also a Solid Stage Phase Inverter/Phase Splitter also but I'm not sure. Its Rare to see amplifiers using a Solid State Phase Inverter plus only using ONE output tube in a push pull mode which is also very unusual.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waynegram8907 Ah but don;t forget the 12BH7 is two tubes in one envelope. Like the ECC83 but more powerful. So it's standard push-pull.

  • @jutukka
    @jutukka 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty peculiar little amp, because if I have understood correctly, the triodes of that 12BH7 work as a push pull output stage. Those around 450V plate voltages seem quite high but those tubes have been widely used as oscilloscope deflection tubes at those voltages, and often been tortured at max plate dissipation as well. Possible no load situation could have killed that OT. Very nice that you could fix it. 👍 The output power of that high voltage beast could be even 3-4 watts, I guess. 😂 That kind of output stage could make quite a nice reverb driver when using 8 ohm reverb tank.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I was surprised at that HT. Yes it's a standard push-pull arrangement but they drive the cathodes via those FETS for some reason. I think this died due to being thrashed solid for 2 hours on max volume. Crazy. Not a gigging amp at all!

    • @jutukka
      @jutukka วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Thanks, because I was already wondering the purpose of those FETs. Whether no load or output stage driven to clipping, voltage spikes in both cases, and OT does not like either option at all. And no wonder if those fets are prone to failing as well. 😁

  • @tomfoolery2082
    @tomfoolery2082 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marshall doesn't have boards for a dsl 40 c anymore . Unless u may know where I can get one I'm out of luck .

    • @Swodie_Jeetin
      @Swodie_Jeetin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brad's guitar garage has been working on a replacement DSL board for those ones where the board itself goes conductive but I think (a) it's the 100 watt version and (b) he's maybe just at the prototype stage and hasn't fully populated one and installed into an amp yet but check him out

    • @tomfoolery2082
      @tomfoolery2082 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Swodie_Jeetin Thx for the response , I'll çk wíth brad n see if he has any ideas . Have a good day .

  • @tjsogmc
    @tjsogmc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good tip about marking the bad part. Even though I've never once ever took a bad part off then put it back on thinking it was the new part causing me hours more diagnostic time, I mark the old part with a paint marker pen- red for bad and yellow for maybe still good.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes good plan!

    • @tjsogmc
      @tjsogmc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 I also put a yellow dot on valves that are weak but still useful for testing or something. Otherwise I would have to throw it away which is wasteful, or mistakenly think that it's good a year or two later when I take it from the spares box. The chips you replace on this amp I would either chuck them in the bin because they're not rare or expensive, or I would mark them with a white dot and put them in the spares. White or green I know that it's a good used part (I still would test it before installing)

  • @dirkfuchser737
    @dirkfuchser737 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really enjoy watching your videos - Thank you !!

  • @pda49184
    @pda49184 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent diagnosis and repair Stuart.. About five years ago I had the same thing happen to my FBJ .. All the readings on the output TX looked okay.. But I had another TX kicking around so I thought there's nothing to loose and I connected it up. Hey presto it worked perfectly. I still have the faulty TX but can't figure out to this day what's actually wrong with it, but there's something going on for sure. I'm pleased to say I'm one of your 'million' as I've been with you from the start of your YT channel. Congratulations and well deserved.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! Yes I wonder if it just breaks down under high voltage?

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 , It would have been interesting to see if your megger could find a leakage fault.

    • @tjsogmc
      @tjsogmc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pda49184 test it with a megger and the truth will be revealed. Many times you check something with a VOM and it's fine, but the component fails under load. The VOM only puts out a few milliamps, not enough to find some problems.

  • @goodun2974
    @goodun2974 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 11:25, the whopping 462 volts B+ measured at the 12BH7 was probably a clue, because it appears the tube is idling at virtually no current, which indicates an incorrect load, due in this case to the bad output transformer. It would have been instructive to measure the B+ after the transformer was replaced; I would bet that it dropped by at least 20 or 30 volts. As for the blown output transformer, your megger might have shown internal leakage or capacitive coupling. PS, 75 pounds for a puny transformer like this is highway robbery! You could probably have looked at a tube manual and figured out an appropriate impedance match so that you could replace the original transformer with a Hammond or something else for half that price, or measure the turns ratio of the brand new transformer before installation so that you can find a more reasonably priced substitute if you ever need to replace one again. You'd be doing a service for other Blackstar owners and their long-suffering technicians!

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I thought that BUT those power resistors in the FET path were getting warm and drawing current, so I assumed thart must be going through the primary? Yes outrageous! It's super rare to replace one though, so I probably won;t seek out an alternative.

  • @bobparker4989
    @bobparker4989 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done Stuart, same with me I don't like surface mount . Great result

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's super hard to work on. Have a look at a TH-cam channel called Northridge Fix, really interesting!

  • @goodun2974
    @goodun2974 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Poke holes in the solderwick with an awl or tiny jeweler's screwdriver and then you can place the wick directly over the stub of each component lead. Adding the special low-temperature solder known as ChipQuick is also helpful; it stays liquid for almost 10 seconds without further heat being applied (ChipQuick is also very helpful for removing SMD parts with multiple pins). PS, I'd recommend adding heatsinks to those Mosfets; the discoloration of the board indicates that both the mosfets and the resistors are generating heat. Unfortunately you can't heatsink the resistors, nor easily fit larger ones, but replacements could be mounted a little above the board for better air flow.....

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good tips thanks. Particularly you have reminded me to get some low melt solder. There's an excellent TH-cam site caleled Northridge Fix if you haven;t seen it. Amazing work on smd boards.

  • @alexdeleon7135
    @alexdeleon7135 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quite a poser, this little unit. I'm impressed by your perseverance in deducing the issue. Enjoy your weekend, Stuart. Cheers!

  • @gingercat777
    @gingercat777 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a crazy way to build a simple amp and then you get robbed for the OT. 😡

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For that price, it should have been a Heyboer or Mercury Magnetics, instead of some cheap Chinese thing! I suggested to Stewart in another comment that he probably should have measured the turns ratio of the replacement transformer and included that info in the video so that other technicians would know what to use as a replacement in future. The blazingly high 463 V at the plates of the 12BH7 output tube might have been a clue that the tube was drawing virtually no current due to a wacky transformer load. I bet the B+ dropped by at least 20 to 30 volts when a new transformer was installed.

    • @tjsogmc
      @tjsogmc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gingercat777 I would have gotten a similarly speced OT from eBay before I would spend that much on a Blackstar brand component. It's not like Blackstar makes those OTs anyway- they get them from some supplier in China, probably the same one selling them on eBay for $20.

  • @dennismasterton3834
    @dennismasterton3834 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More good work Stuart.

  • @jasq99
    @jasq99 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still planning to drop off my jcm900 to you, keep watching your videos and founding them very interesting. Thank you

  • @msamov
    @msamov 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video was exactly what I was looking for AND an example of a 'great' Ebay tutorial. What made it work for me was a simple schematic and the application of Ohm's Law, you know, old school stuff - Thanks!

  • @jasonbeebe2128
    @jasonbeebe2128 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just FYI for the Origin series: for the fx loop to work, a TRS plug needs to be inserted into the foot switch jack with the ring open. Ring to ground turns the fx loop off and tip to ground turns the gain boost off.

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Jason. Ah, I didn;t know that thanks. The thing is, will I remember it in 5 years when I get another one of these???

  • @davidgranger3628
    @davidgranger3628 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn't get to hung up with the carbon track but does mineral spirit effect the plastic ? Especially old plastic ?

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi David You have to be a bit cautious with the term 'mineral spirit' as it's a huge catch-all term. DeOxit uses a very mild formulation of m.s. and I haven't heard of any problems with plastics. I guess if you have something REALLY old and REALLY valuable the precautionary principle woould apply and you should use plain alcohol.

  • @brainjellyTV
    @brainjellyTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    super useful thank you so much!!!!

  • @6255jer
    @6255jer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My ac30c2 is different

  • @komorowski381
    @komorowski381 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kind of soldering iron do you use? I have an Ersa station with 60 watts, it never gets as hot as yours. Best regards Martín

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a JBC from Kaisertech - cost a bleedin' fortune but it's pretty good.

    • @komorowski381
      @komorowski381 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stuartukguitarampguy5830 thank you, I saw it last night in your last video where the soldering station was shown and googled it. Quite expensive, but I think I'll get one in the future

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@komorowski381 Yes they're pretty good I think. Got fed up with Wellers constantly failing.

  • @RozsaAmplificationLLC
    @RozsaAmplificationLLC 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what is all that "buzzing"?!?? first thing I do when an amp comes in the door is test ALL of the tubes!

  • @vihuelamig
    @vihuelamig 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Up until a few years ago I had a pair of Quad II's. The serial numbers on my pair were reasonably close, certainly not consecutive. The component layout and wiring loom is of excellent quality. I did intend to restore them but in the end I sold them on at a modest profit. They were never intended as being on display or a visual feature, more hidden away in something like a Heals cabinet. The leaky caps are hardly a surprise given the age. I once restored a valve radio and replaced all the electrolytics and every waxy cap that was in it. Must have been 10 or 12 waxy caps. They were all very leaky. I think your little board and main smoothing caps was the right idea. It's probably possible to cut open that capacitor can with a dremel wheel and hide new caps inside but it's quite a bit of work. As you stated, your board is easily reversible should someone wish to do so sometime in the future.

  • @patternlesstide
    @patternlesstide 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Stuart, i have a question related to this exact amp, i've got this amp about a year ago and it is fantastic, i use it on studio, i take good care of it. The other day i was using this amp when i noticed that the clean channel was not loud enough, i turned the volume knob to the max and still had the same issue, and the sound was also not clear enough. The dirt channel sounded perfectly, no issues at all. could this be related to the valves? if i find a valve that could be broken, can i just change for a good one instead of buying all of them? thank you so much!

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi. Hmm it's hard to say. It COULD be a valve but unlikely Try swapping them around to a different position (same valves types of course!) and see if that changes anything. If not, it won;t be the valves. And yes, of course, you can just swap out one valve for new if you want.

  • @MB-st7be
    @MB-st7be 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm late to the party. Having established that the hum was being picked up by the volume wiper (grid) I would have separated out the shielded cable from the bundle, and moved that around on its own. It looks like you left them bundled the whole time, since the yellow bands look untouched?

  • @vihuelamig
    @vihuelamig 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 decades ago I went through my crazy Hi Fi phase. Having built an EL84 PP amp it wasn't long before I was replacing the resistors with 'better sounding' replacement types. Of course the capacitors were the next on the list for replacement. Then I heard that a 6V6 sounded better than an EL84 so I converted it to 6V6 PP. Most of my original build was cobbled together from parts that I already had including the output transformers. It even had a choke power supply. It's all too easy to convince yourself that any change you make must be an improvement. The changes that I made to my amplifier was extra experience but that's about it. I don't think any of the changes improved the sound one bit. It got converted back to EL84's because I could see the heater glows much better!

    • @stuartukguitarampguy5830
      @stuartukguitarampguy5830 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, you've summed it up perfectly. It's mostly smoke and mirrors. I'd bet serious money nobody could tell the differece between 'audio grade' caps/resistors and the cheapest ones out there!

  • @WildRiceProductions1
    @WildRiceProductions1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice one Stuart - helped me fix the exact same problem on one of my customers amps - And yes…love to see all the natural mistakes, helps me avoid doing them🤘😅

  • @zummliller
    @zummliller 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, indeed Sruart: 'hope you learned something...' = yes, every time, thank you! Your generous sharing of your experience is more than appreciated!

  • @Cpt_Adama
    @Cpt_Adama 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant, thanks for your effort. Be careful with just pure alcohol on pots as it has zero lubricants which "could" lead to more wear between the wiper and the carbon track. (Maybe another video for you, 😁). As you noticed when DeOxit dries it does leave a little film of lubricant behind. Of course their Fader product includes a higher percentage of lubricant for high use faders.

  • @keiranbradley3238
    @keiranbradley3238 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This amp is on "evil-bay" right now for the bargain starting price of £4995.00,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm not sure if the Seller will accept kidneys?.

  • @SteveLittle412
    @SteveLittle412 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent. I've been struggling to find out what goes on in these things for about 45 years! Really interesting! Many thanks!

  • @kenzuercher7497
    @kenzuercher7497 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The white material left on the top may be removed with Goo Gone and then the vinyl wiped down with Armor All.