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@@GripperCc I haven’t been training them much but I set a PR a week ago

I train on Monday and Thursday when I’m in a routine

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 Do you train equally hard and for the same number of times in both sessions or do you run slightly lighter on Thursdays and heavier on Mondays. I also do Monday Thursday but on Mondays I do five sets and Thursdays only three and less reps but relatively heavy. Often switches between several reps, type runs 5*5 sometimes and 5*3 sometimes 5*8 runs holds sometimes 5*5 and then only one rep and holds until it starts to open and then releases it. 1.5 years now and very close to 2.5 now but difficult with the last millimeter!

@@GripperCc I do 5 sets on Monday and 3 on Thursday,

@@GripperCc I do sets of 5 one week sets of 3 the next then sets of 2 then deload. Try doing coin holds

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 Coin hold I understand what it is but do not understand the purpose of that exercise how it will improve to close the last millimeter I have left. I do the hold exercise when I close the handles completely on a slightly lighter gripper and hold it until the handles go up a few millimeters and then release. It feels strange to put a coin in between, because you build muscle memory on not closing the gripper completely. If you remove the coin instead and close a lighter gripper completely and crush until it opens, you build the strength in the bottom pull of the grip and not a few millimeters away with a coin in between. You are welcome to explain what I missed with that exercise as I don't understand how it should build strength in the last few millimeters. I understand there against those who file down a slightly lighter gripper of a few pounds and close past the normal width, then you build strength past what is needed and I can understand that, but don't build strength in front before the handles join together.

Thank you very much

Thank you

No not yet I’m at a above average 3.5

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 you will definetly close a 4 soon

@@PUNCT275 that would be pretty insane, my life goal would be certifying on a 3.5 and a GHP 9

2-3 years I can’t remember exactly how long. When I’m training grippers I train Twice a week. I’m not training them now because I’ve been training for a armwrestling match and heavy wrist curls with fat grips destroys my hands

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 Yeah I started armwrestling a bit (doing also heavy fat gripz training as well) and the past 2 weeks my forearms were blown. I am now not sure if to get back to armwrestling.. Anywyas I am doing armwrestling exercises, mostly a lot of volume light weight for now. And sometimes trying to do heavy if I dont feel pain

@@ilanaizelman3993 any kind of fat grips or cupping really hurts gripper training

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 Yeah I know, I am mostly doing pinching after grippers and take 2-3 days off before working with my 60mm/76mm rolling handles and fat gripz

I haven’t seen one around that range either, this was my certification gripper Iron mind. If there’s a way to balance armwrestling and grippers I haven’t found it yet. I’ve been messing around with grippers since 2018 and been running a serious problem for around a year. I closed a 2.5 as soon as I started but took 2 years to close a 3

@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 ok good to know. I also closed my 2.5 after the first grip work out. I made my own rating setup going off cannons rated grippers I bought for a gauge. My 2.5 was gritty and creaked and when I rated it, it was like 140lbs then I oiled it and it went down to 125lbs. I was hoping to get to the #3 within a year but with this injury I def don't see it happening that soon especially since mines a 149 and huge spread and I don't have giant hands

@@fishingpatriot2344 you’ve got really good potential

@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 I think it's mostly from working hard physical labor since I was like 14. I've had a shit ton of tendon nd muscle injuries but shit seems to still be working somewhat haha. I went prob 10years without lifting due to injuries but im getting back into it finally. My problem is my strong hand is my left so normal grippers feel more awkward in my left. I have a #3 left turn that I rated at 145lbs but it's even more of a spread than the reg #3 I have. I've been wanting to try it but at the same time I wanna heal my wrist as it impedes my ability at work. You ever seen that stemcell therapy? I wish it wasn't so expensive as it seems to work good for the older armwrestlers like devon that have alot of damage.

@@fishingpatriot2344 might give tb 500 and bpc 157 a try, look it up

I usually train twice a week but it’s hard to balance, gripper training and arm wrestling at the same time so I haven’t been really training here as of recent

Yeah I only have done once and it was way below my max gripper so hopefully won’t hurt myself

I started in 2018 but i just kinda messed around with them, I started a actual program less than a year ago. I train twice a week, I do training sessions like 5 sets of 3 or 5 sets of 2

I do the cadence based gripper program, it’s online for like 35 dollars

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 I downloaded Tommy Heslip's book for free and my friend Martin Arildsson passed Cc no. 4 as well as Magnus Samuelsson and got a lot of tips there. They always mixed heavy and light training. Sometimes only singles sometimes threes fives sometimes only holds and sometimes like 10-15 reps. If you run twice a week, you really don't need a lot of reps, 5X5 is enough and 3X5 works too. There are no shortcuts without hard training and never giving up even if it goes backwards, just keep feeding and you will pass the plateau. Then there's the fact that with all the training, everyone will never ever lift 300 kg in the bench press regardless of training, just like everyone can't run 100 meters in 9.8 seconds. But a Cc no. 2 most men can handle, but not everyone will reach a 2.5 because they can't do it genetically or want to put in four to five years of training to get there. By the way Martin has done 30 reps on a Cc no 3 😃

And Saturday

Try choke closing your 3

If you help close it with the other hand, won't it be the same as shoke closing it? haven't really understood what choke it's supposed to be good for? Close it with your other hand and try to keep it closed as long as you can!

​@GripperCc lol yeah I don't get it either. But I don't really understand negatives as well because if even if you hold it closed you still lack the crushing strength to get it closed.

@@beefcakesfat2310 I think it's good to load with negative training sometimes to shock the muscle and get it used to higher loads. But there are those who never drive negatively and have gone all the way to No. 4. Regardless, you must be well trained to cope with the overload that will occur. Know it was effective in the bench press to scoop up a lot of weight and just hold the weight and lower it slowly and then get help with it. But most of the training I believe in full reps and like running fives to eights. If you run super heavy negatives, more rest is required to heal. Sometimes I have noticed 3X3 on full reps is enough and sometimes I do 5X1 and 3X3 and finish with 2X8 on as heavy as I can handle. Have had my absolute strongest sessions the day after I ran 3X3 and don't know why? In the same way, if you had a bad day and were powerless but drove through the session but slightly lighter and tried again the next day, you can activate the V8 engine and you can drive a really heavy session. But I think the difficult thing is to rest enough because it's fun with the gripper and you usually drive too much.

@GripperCc yeah I guess negatives does make some sense if you can hold it closed for a few seconds or whatever otherwise its too dangerous. But I stay away from them so far. To me the thing that makes the most sense is training beyond the range of motion, so filed grippers, even though I don't do that yet either because haven't hit a plateau, and changing it up to find ways to shock the muscles as you said. Interesting some of ur strongest days have been the day after. I run back to back sessions sometimes for the shocking principal factor but I always feel weaker

Thank you sir

Yeah I would say it would be a good idea, I have a coc 2, 2.5, 3,5 filed so I have filed grippers in various strength levels

Thank you!

No I recommend doing choke closes instead look on my channel for videos of choke closes also make sure you get volume in with light grippers. So a workout I could give really quick is do 5 sets of 5 to 2 reps with a gripper that is 75 to 85% of your max then after that do choke closes on a coc 3

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 thanks man,will check more about choke close technique.Heard about it,but never tried my self.Totally make sense to train that way

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 sorry one more question,when you choke your work gripper do you leave choker on all the time or remove it after every training session?I m planing to put choker on my coc3,but,if i leave it on all the time wont it loosen up the spring over time? 🤔

@@Latvian1984 you can ask as many questions as you want that’s why I made the channel, I think if it’s choked down to like parallel it could weaken the gripper, I have one of mine choked right now but I would prefer to take it off every session, mine are a hose clamp and i just take my impact drill and quickly take the clamp off and on

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 awesome,thanks again for your answer 👍 always honor to learn from the best 💪

You’ve probably never met anyone that can close a coc 3 and I’m 100% sure you’ve never met anyone that can rep it so stop making yourself look foolish to the people that know what is taking place in the video

I have closed the same gripper with my left hand on my channel

Yes

Assuming it's because you clench your teeth when doing this. I don't really know much about it, though.

@@quick.act_strange it’s a weightlifting mouth guard i don’t know if it helps or not

Thanks man! Other than my max effort that’s the happiest I’ve been in my training

I did the same workout in October with a 145 3 and it wasn’t as easy then

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 5 rgc is a lot that’s some serious improvement. How many sets did you do?

@@jacobbell1469 5 sets

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 that’s intense!

It’s a captain of crush number 3. I’ll just give you the manufacturer number it’s 280lbs the 150lbs is it’s RGC rating

Thank you very much, I could close a 2 the first time I tried so I guess the question should be how long did it take me to go from the 2.5 to the 3. I think it took 2 years if I can remember correctly and as far as how often I trained I really just recently starting training hard and consistently at grippers, before it was a side thing i just messed around with and my main training was for armwrestling. Right now I train twice a week

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 you were stronger than me for sure then, I'm about 2mm from closing the coc#2 but only been doing grippers since Christmas 2023 as my son got me some as a present and now I'm addicted 😂 thank you for your help and time. Take care brother.

It’s basically just a training method for grippers, you take a gripper that you can’t close and you put the clamp on it at 20mm then when you can close it open the clamp to 25mm then 30mm and by then you should be able to close the gripper without the clamp

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 what's a hard grip strength. I did one that you can adjust to 90 pounds and I did it easy. I'm 140 so I was a bit confused

@@youretrashy-qe3hp to make it simple can only really comment on captain of crush grippers, if you can close a 2.5 captain of crush you have very good grip and that’s 127lbs to close

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 2.5 caption of crush?

@@youretrashy-qe3hp 2.5 captain of crush sorry

I’m basically doing Jedd Johnson cadence based program

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 oh ok. do you have to pay for his program?

@@jacobbell1469 yes I think it’s like $35

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 that’s not bad I might have to get it. Thanks!

@@jacobbell1469 i screenshot all the workouts so all I have to do is go to my folder in my phone

Like how many pounds of pressure or how long does it take? A 3 has a range between 136-160lbs depending on different factors, if you are super genetically gifted I would say it would take maybe 6 months to close a average 3 148lbs if your the average person it might take many many years if it’s even possible at all. Hopefully that answers your question thank you for your comment

I’m a lot dyslexic and miss understood lol like I said in the other comment I would say even the most genetically gifted people it would still take a good 6 months to close the average 3. Most people will never get strong enough to close it unfortunately. If you can close a 2.5 I think with years of training a 3 is doable but if you’re training for a long time and your closing a 2 the 3 is probably out of reach. Closing a 3 is probably equivalent to a 405 bench press

It took me a year to close a heavy No. 2 but it's like a lighter 2.5 but I think my limit is reached at 2.5 and as you write most don't come close to a No. 3 and only a few can handle a 2 .5 regardless of training. Most people can do a number 2, but then you have to have genetic conditions and one of them is big hands! If you have small hands, you will probably never get over a 2.5!

@@GripperCc don’t give up, I was really bad at armwrestling when I started and I slowly got to the level I am now. With grippers it took me 2 years to close a 3 I think it took me gaining some weight and putting some size in my arms. I had less than 13” forearms when I started now there over 16” that’s probably made a big difference

@@savagearmsarmwrestling8385 I've been training for a year and three months now and 2.5 is very close so I'm struggling. I have said I will give it three years and we are some 50 plus year olds who do this as a fun thing and I have never trained grip and could barely close the Cc Trainer when I started and have some mm left on my 2, 5 and is 53 years old so funny it works despite the age. The goal is no. 3, but we'll see, I'll keep going twice a week and drive like it's smoking and getting stronger all the time, so maybe one day I'll close an easy no. 3