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I love your videos and you have picked a spicy topic today! The clips you selected are passing at speed. There should be no debate about throwing a ball at speed backward and have the ball travel forward. The clue for me (as referee or player) is to keep running: as long as the ball stays behind me, I consider it is a valid pass. That mitigates the interpretation from scooper running lateraly: make sure your pass stays behind you. At a rollball, the ball is static so judging the direction of the pass from the ground is pertinent. How to fix it is hard since referee are standing behind the defense. As mentionned, not sure it is worth midfield if not an obvious forward pass: minimum advantage for the attacking team and no benefit for the game speed in general. But any quickie play and attacking on the 7m line should be strict on forward pass to prevent unfair advantage for the attacking team.

Great video but... A) perhaps your example was midfield stuff but more me the extra step forward advantage you get on the 7 metre ruck forward pass can be the difference between scoring and getting shut down. Its crucial B) rucks are not a good example, especially if the passer is either stationary or barely moves forward. Its a pretty simple call for me if the ball carrier recieves the ball in front of the ruck 99% its forward. C) your mate Dave, good mate that he is giving touch a chance, will think the game is less legit if he is a rugby or league guy and sees forward passes are allowed 4) this is just another example of teams pushing the rule limits and eventually breaking them. For the game to prosper every once in awhile u need remind teams of the rules 5) i play in an area where we are growing touch and theres only 1 team who trains. They do this the most because this has become the norm.

When the passer is running at speed more or less directly towards the opponents try line and it appears the hands were releasing the ball in a backwards motion I will allow that even if the ball floats marginally forward. However if the attacker is running at say a 45° angle I will call a forward pass if the ball travels forward relative to the try line.

It's always been from where the ball is passed to where it lands. Version 8 of the rules tries to make this absolute but referees often get the rule incorrect. Essentially if the pall goes forward for any reason, it's an illegal pass. But we get this garbage interpretation that it can go out of the hands backwards and float forward...

Love it!

You go from showing a legitimate pass from a running passer in open field to talking about a forward pass from the ruck (where dummy is not moving forward). Calling forward pass from the ruck might slow the game down, but a forward pass is a forward pass. Where the passer and receiver are close to each other and game is moving fast I think many refs, myself included, would give some benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. But if receiver is obviously in front of half, time to blow the whistle.

The reverse quickie back to the open side works really well with a block play. The wrapper from dummy half becomes the sweeper behind and gives the ball player a lot of different options. The main option would be to isolate the short side middle and take him on like so in the 2nd video so a ball playing middle that can step and dive is perfect for this play. The block play creates distraction to fake the play going openside so everyone is sliding inside of shutting or sniping.

Yeah we are taught the progression. You have 32 then 32 peel then you have 32 long they all look the same for step up and you read the D on how tight they are or loose they are and you call it as you go

Yeah, 32 peel is a classic and one of my favorites to run still. Only thing I can see Japan is that three going down did not drag the middle at all or turn his hips 😔 I love being the dumper of the 32 peel haha

Or stunner or short side pick if the middles are really tight

In England we really concentrate on the forward passes around the 7m line off the ruck as that’s the really important area where an advantage would be huge and the sideline refs have a good view ( a lot were picked up in the World Cup). In the midfield because we are looking after the defending team making sure they are back on side they are more difficult to spot so tends to be the really obvious ones that get penalised but there’s not big advantage in that area. And yes we have to keep explaining to players it’s if the ball comes out of the hands backwards! Hope you are well Tom?

Refs look at the hands of the passer to assess if a pass is forward or not. Thats an excellent video as proof though.

Anyone else not have any sound on this video??

I’m confused. What’s the difference between a reverse quickie and just a quickie?

I’m confused what’s difference between a quickie and a reverse quickie?

Nice detail on the first breakdown but at the try was scored by the attack threatening the dive and defence not marking their man.

Awesome info, very interesting for us in PNG..

Can you do a video on the 2 step please🙏

Halo! Learnt this play from Laskey back in 2007. Great setup.

Link can definitely fly on the short side quickie with less risk. Getting wingers in and links on sweep plays obviously more risky

Yep you got it right, call it a 32 long in NZ, at school we used it a lot to show off the step back

Alternatively she could of just fed the ball back to the dumper..picking up and running back to the onside player would not of been the right option

As a defending team i also think the link should step back in and force the pass but I guess they are focused on marking their opposite so they can’t tell if their middle is getting beat

It is a 32 long or "out ball"

It’s called a ‘Halo’ and was invented my a man name Shane Laskey

Great set-up. I thought it was going to be like the sneaky play but the sweeper comes from the other link

Strong dump from the female link, that defender wanted to kill the play so bad!

Last one is a nice passive line from Hornets

Hey! Love the videos, been super useful.. wondering what app you us to annotate the videos?

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Sweet! Would you ever consider doing training videos?

6pm QLD time during daylight savings 🤦‍♂️ My mistake haha

Best touch videos!

I agree it’s good as a tailored defensive play against specific teams and specific ball players, possibly also limited to early in the game too. It’s a simple surprise play, but dangerous if used more than 1-2 times in a game, so you surely need to be able to revert to policy.

Good teams would expose it after the first time so it isn’t a defensive strategy they would sustain throughout the match, more a novelty rarity

Love it!

Love it!

It can be dangerous. But 80% of the time, teams head open side anyway. And as long as the snipe is early enough, the play gets shutdown before it can be completed.... So i reckon it's gutsy but brilliant defence

As a north American who 1st played gridiron I’m bout it bout it. Teach your players to Read the play and go for it. Same as a defensive back reads the QB and makes a play or a linebacker reads the run and snipes into the backfield. But in the end it depends on the players ability to read the play. I’ve been told I do this decently because of my gridiron background. But I will say that the instincts of different sports, including union can be counter productive. Case in point union players tendency to come up as a line on the 1st few touches and get caught backpedaling for 50 metres and energy stores depleted by the time they get to the goal line. You rightfully pointed out the way the sweeper caught and handled the ball contributed to the successful snipe. This reminds me of the Springbok system where the wing has leeway to step in and blow up the centre if he reads it well; usually a no no in union; most forms of the code id imagine. Teach systems, or policies, but encourage players to trust their instincts to make plays, but then $h!t on them when their instincts suck!

its like thinking outside the "box"

Good rugby attack lazy patterns

Nice play that goes against the grain of the normal box drives 😊

Opposition is Hornsby

when you're defending it, and try to hold up, what if they make the touch? Can you do anything because you can't pull out or are you just trying to pull corner after the touch is made?

First one, he came back on the field after a sickening face to face collision to make that intercept.

The sweeper cutout pass was a chef’s special.

I have doubt the defender had run back 7 mts, he only took 5 backward steps.

Awesome game. I thought Doyalsons reign had come to an end but that final drive won them the title.