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Oz Tag along tours
4x4 trip routes
Toyota Prados touring Australia
Tag a long tours
Ajs Tag-a-long tours
Out back australia
Oz Prado Crew
Vic high country
Road & track conditions
4x4 trip routes
Toyota Prados touring Australia
Tag a long tours
Ajs Tag-a-long tours
Out back australia
Oz Prado Crew
Vic high country
Road & track conditions
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Fraser Island Trip Heading day 2 arvo shift champagne Pools
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Fraser Island champagne pools
Fraser Island ozPrados day two afternoon shift - head back!
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Coming back from the Sandy Cape champagne pools
I’m A “know it all” battery dcdc issues alternator is all you need here.
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Charging up batteries info from the know it all 🤣
I Still DONT LIKE DCDC Chargers SAVE $$$$
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SEE EVIDENCE For YOURSELF also see previous video first
Bloody GOOD REASONs Why I’m NOT a FAN of DCDC Chargers
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Learn it! SAVE YOUR CASH get a reliable REDARC isolator And some cheap folding solar panels that come with a isolator and connect it direct to the battery much more universal cheap simple reliable approach
RYOBI BRUSHLESS CHAINSAW Review UNBELIEVABLE Stuff!!
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Wow I’m SO IMPRESSED Far better than the 10inch puss bucket
What is THIS at Blowen BOWEN great Views Good walk
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Dirt Pile 🤣 check out The Bays Is it just the natural landscape?
Getting to Cobbold gorge 3rd party information
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This way is easy, I found it a bit to commercialized compared to the normal sort of gorge I would usually take a look at, seems to be a Queensland thing. Close it off, control it, put a decent Fee on it, load everybody up in a bus to take them to have a look. 💵 💰 grab greedy
Cape trip day 12 ohhhps Actually it’s all over! Just a quick traveling cows on road ⚠️
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Cape trip day 12 ohhhps Actually it’s all over! Just a quick traveling cows on road ⚠️
Out to Chilli beach and back to Wenlock river camp Chuulangun
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Out to Chilli beach and back to Wenlock river camp Chuulangun
Nearly got taken 😮 by a crock ⚠️ by Day 10 🆘
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Nearly got taken 😮 by a crock ⚠️ by Day 10 🆘
Cape York trip day 9 captain Billys, Moreton telegraph station to pennefather river
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Cape York trip day 9 captain Billys, Moreton telegraph station to pennefather river
Cape York Trip July 2024 Day8 Captain Billys Landing
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Cape York Trip July 2024 Day8 Captain Billys Landing
BOGGED BAD!!! What WORKED? Plus More FREEBIES LATER 🎁
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BOGGED BAD!!! What WORKED? Plus More FREEBIES LATER 🎁
Cape York trip day 7 punsand bay,THE TIP and More
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Cape York trip day 7 punsand bay,THE TIP and More
3 Problems SOLVED and the new MAXTRAX Mount
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3 Problems SOLVED and the new MAXTRAX Mount
The BEST 4x4 AWNING Ever don’t WASTE MONEY!
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The BEST 4x4 AWNING Ever don’t WASTE MONEY!
Cape York trip day 5 Nolan’s brook trailers & bikes july 2024
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Cape York trip day 5 Nolan’s brook trailers & bikes july 2024
Cape York Trip Day4 The Tele Track non car wrecker option twin falls Elliot falls
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Cape York Trip Day4 The Tele Track non car wrecker option twin falls Elliot falls
Hey Doctor, 15 psi all day every day. Stockton Beach, Redhead Beach Newcastle. Haven't been stuck yet. Been there since I was a kid. I am 53 now. Towed plenty of Muppets out. Common sense doesn't exist any more. Happy Hilux owner. Cheers AK 😂
Fantastic, I can't stress enough how great it is to see these in first person view without constant cinematic editing with flashing screens and annoying noises, just being on the adventure and seeing that horizon with the vehicles doing their thing is bliss. Safe travels.
Does it help to have two of them on each wheel if having fwd only? I mostly having problem with the caravan on grass. Don't drive much vinter time.
First time viewer. Love the calm inciteful teaching commentry. I'll be watching other youve done now.
Thanks for sharing Anthony. Really like this setup as I am wanting to have a complete unit that I can unbolt and remove when not travelling. Which by the sounds of it you can do when removing the turnbuckle, and bolts behind seats. Question. About 10mins in you mention that raise lip to the tie downs behind the seat. When you remove the factory hooks to be able to bolt in, does that angled raised part (about 100wide) come out? If it doesnt come out, then the base wouldnt be level. Just interested in how you got around this problem. Thanks again.
Fun video - thanks!
The red Prado is my favourite 🎉
It will.always be Fraser
Sounds like operator error to me mate 😂
The only problem I don't like with red arc is there greenpower priority feature so whenever you are driving if there is solar available it will pick the solar over the alternator to charge your auxiliary battery where is other DC brand battery chargers choose alternator charging first
I hope you head over to the West Coast.
And why is that?
Hi Anthony, would be really great if you could just post the links etc to the accessories etc that you have installed. Me for example I love the table installed at the back door.
Beautiful place to visit with easy cruising on the sand
"Temporarily stopped being able to move itself without assistance" doesnt grab the clicks though 😅
Also the DCDC starts shutting down at 40C and off at 45C. I know from first hand experience, regardless of where it is mounted. Found out the hard way, inland WA with 40-50C temperatures and I lost my second battery and everything connected to it. The fix? Similar to you, put it in the bin and fit a SBI12 plus add Anderson plugs to both batteries for solar inputs. Now if the main battery fails, or alternator fails, join both together and it will get you home. If you hunt around for long enough you'll find articles on RedArc DCDC's shutting down on temperature
Roger that, but not this time. Cambridge is nowhere near there and mounted up front getting all the airflow even in hot temperatures would be difficult to reach that but possible on the hottest days you are correct about the solution.
Mate, no meetup?
It was just a quick flyby visit on the way past Just to take a box for the kids Too busy ha ha ha
My days of applying reef oil to hot babes on the weekend at Bondi beach finished up over 20 years ago 🤣🤣🤣
Nice work and beautiful Where can I get one of this bracket? Thanks
I had a question is your solenoid wired that when the car is on, it bridges by Batteries? If so that could be interfering with the DCDC charger. My thought process is that the DCDC charger works somewhat like a shunt by using your Batteries capacity and amperage to determine how to charge but if your solenoid is connecting both batteries it might be interfering with its readings.
In other words it bridging input and output of the DCDC charger
No
Hey Ant, I have been running the dual force battery and just a redarc SBI12 as per your vids for 2 yrs now in my 2022 GXL and run a dometic 47L 24/7 on 2deg C. I'm def not running the size cable you did in your previous vid between SBI12 and dual force battery and haven't had any issues to date. The fridge lasts 4 days without driving or solar. Keep it simple i think!!
OMG don’t tell people they didn’t need to spend all that money 😮. 😂 amuses me. I use the SBI12 and my battery always charges to 12.8v which is 95%. Solar panel and victron MPPT tops it off when required. Simple and effective. Too many butts getting sore in here.
Passive aggressive with a touch of insecurity 😂
Ha ha you’re very good Let me translate it for you and make it a little bit more accurate Zero insecurity Now let’s do the passive, aggressive part I want to be aggressive But I’m trying to be nice Yeah, I guess that that = passive aggressive 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I’ve watched the 3 vids on dc to dc. Need more research, knowledge and advice. You have a poor result because of a poor set up for ur application.
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So I was curious, I was a bit of a smart arse on the other vid comment oops…anyway, a brief look at red arc spec and charging profile, definitely a safe option, relatively simple in order to not over charge a battery and maintain longevity. Gotta look at manufacturers that give u more control over a charge profile for ur needs….oh yes, I know u didn’t ask for help or suggestions etc, I’m not asking for a response 🤪
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I recommend some help for you. Sounds like you asking for it….Get a dc to dc charger, different brand. Put bigger wire. Put more solar.
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@@Bilskirnir030 are you serious ??
Mate I have the same problem with the redarc giving to much to solar on low voltage 🤔 and not enough from the alternator just thinking about a switch to turn the solar panels off 🤔
Hi Ant, I run a mid range lithium battery in the back of Prado 150 and a well known brand dc dc charger reliabily for the last 4 years. However recently failed on an extended trip. I bypassed it to connect straight to alternator. No problem, except charging from about 80% to 100% takes a bit longer - so yes you don’t NEED a dcdc charger - but what yours is doing got be a fault, ring Redarc to see if they can do some troubleshooting with you. Cheers
Thanks for the advice, but I won’t bother calling them It works OK sometimes it’s intermittent. It’s just software related people can’t program things to work. Ideally and of course as I made the point in the video it’s just not required and in real world testing using this battery before this charger was installed and then using the fridges, we had just the same or better results as far as charging goes based on How long the battery lasts running the fridges so conclusion waste of mine and it’s not needed because it worked without it that’s why it’s not really hope you get my drift
Its reasonable to question cable size. Many issues arise with dcdc chargers come from under voltage and manerfacturers often recommend the incorrect size. Unfortunate that ypure having issues with yours.
It might be reasonable if the information was not already available there is extensive information available on the set up in the playlist fridge Battery Solar Did the video not show the engine day and set up in the video the whole time where you could say big fat wires and high quality connections. Yeah I get it some people don’t know that’s how I roll high quality.🤣🤣🤣 Everything is a one You just don’t need a DC DC charger for this set up is the whole point no questions need to be asked to be honest because it’s perfectly set up and works well other than the DC DC software too many variables
@@fourby4adventures704 everyday is a school day, can always be learning
Hi just a quick question on your voltage based battery monitor is it accurate enough to judge the DCDC charger? Sounds like this is a simple cheaper option than a DCDC charger which would be great thank you for your advice. I could be wrong but voltage based monitor I believe only estimates battery capacity? Where a shunt measure all flow of current in and out given a more accurate battery capacity? Look forward to your value response
Voltage gives an awesome indication of what’s going on with battery state of charge. Once you get to know this looking at that data you can tell when the fridges compressors are cutting in cutting out and if it wasn’t good or accurate, we won’t be using it.
However, it has now been proven that that information is not enough for a red Oak, DC DC charger to work to charge the battery accurately that’s the point I guess it’s just not needed. The alternator will charge the battery consistently at about 13.8,13.9 V from my experience that’s how this vehicle was set up before the DC DC went in And it worked fine The advantage this one has is the solar panel on the roof always charging the battery when you’re not driving previous set up didn’t have that battery still got charged from driving and ended up in the same condition in the morning running the same fridges anyway ……
Internet experts get all their information from 4WD24/7, Anthony you need to spend $42799.00 to run two fridges. 😁🍺
Bloody Legend 🤣🤣😉😉🙏🙏✌️✌️
My friend, I just subscribed to your TH-cam channel- their are so many plenty keyboard warriors and clowns that know it all, are just gum nuts only you know how your system is set up. Thanks for showing your set up 👍
Just found this video. You didn't give any details of your setup. Are you using a DCDC charger to charge another SLA battery????? That seems.....lacking if true. As many others have said, sounds like whatever battery you are charging is bad/not enough for the use case.
To clarify about a comment i made on last video. I was the one that asked if its possibly related to solar input. Suggesting potential issue of alternator charge input been denied and solar input been used. Im not defending Redarc or making excuses (i use victron) just stating a reason for a potential problem in the algorithm or a problem within the monitoring of system.😂🤷♂️. As you stated the components fitted and installation is correct this should not be the result after spending $$. You are probably beyond caring but this should be raised with redarc tech support and resolved. If in fact the there dc/dc product cannot charge a second battery at correct profile at minimum a full refund and issue would need addressing. Installed many systems seen plenty of garbage. Currently running victron 12-12-30 dc/dc charger with standard Yuasa vehicle battery and a 300 a/h “house battery ” with solar input via MPPT 100/50 and never had an issue in all situations, charge profile on both batteries great. That said i have used redarc products before (not bc-dc products) never an issue, tech is good at answering questions. Enjoy the expert opinions 😂
You are correct it’s not my job to spend hours explaining to them the problem they can watch the videos if they like and they might get it because that’s exactly what’s happening it’s not smart enough. The software is not right to work out. What’s going on without thinking too hard either one of those is correct whether it’s using the solar or not it’s controlling it to be just over 13 V when it should be over 14. It’s quite simple right in front of me and my point of the video was to show people my experiences you just don’t need it and it can be a disadvantage also so why spend the money if you don’t need it and it can be a disadvantage when it doesn’t work right intermittently 😉🙏✌️
Have you asked Redarc? They might have an answer
No I might do videos when I’m on holidays but I don’t call customer service Quality products shouldn’t have problems It’s not my job to spend the time for solutions I’m not the only one that this would happen to me if people monitored , there’s more closely They might say the same thing, and I believe Robot should have media people scanning the Internet for this information Then they can contact me if they were to be organized and care 🤷♂️🤣😉🙏✌️
I had a setup almost identical to yours. LC200, Projecta 25A DCDC, Lead Acid Deep Cycle, 200w solar, all under bonnet with the car not running everyday. Ran for 4 years with no issues runnnig a 80L Fridge Freezer. Ran the battery low a couple of times but always kept the fridge cold. I did measure the output with a shunt though. I dont think the installation is the issue with your setup but it should not run the battery that low. I have changed to a rear mounted Lithium with Victron Orion DCDC and a 2000w inverter which also means there is much less voltage drop than runnning cable from under the bonnet to the rear of the car. I think that DCDC chanrgers can and do work but just not in all situations.
It works and the solar charge is the battery automatically. Everything works as it should other than the software been correct and not inputting the correct charge when required at times like this one. It runs the battery low each day to about 12.2 V on average I am asking a lot from this battery running to fridges but they only total 50 L. I don’t mind that I just want the charger to do what it should do when the car is being driven and charge at over 14 V for hours not one hour is the example given which a lot of people don’t seem to get that that is not good but it will do the job and unless people monitor their systems closely they might not notice that this is what is happening perhaps to some of them perhaps to all of them I don’t know that I just know one experience that is not acceptable Far is DC DC charging goes
I must be the lucky one. 2 years down the track, my DCDC charger the same as yours runs my 47l chest fridge a treat, day in and day out. Can sit from Friday night till Sunday , still going fine. Have yet to have needed to plug my 200w Solar blanket in to support it.
Yes, this battery can do that also and it can do it without a DC DC charger if it was running a 47 L fridge that would be a cf50 I have a fair bit of experience with those. They are not very cold battery lasts for days. 🤣🤣🤣 waeco Swedish for hot beer.
@@fourby4adventures704 sorry Anthony, my My Coolman sits on 3 degrees all day everyday. Perfect beer temperature 🍺🍺
Use the folding people
I actually went on the flying fox at upcc it was so fun
What track is this please
Is the dcdc profiled for lithium or SLA
You need to find out how many amps those two fridges are pulling. AGM under bonnet is probably on its last legs. Float charge for these agm is around 13..2 to 13.5v. So, I think it has lost its capacity over time. If you want to say this bcdc charger is junk. Prove it by installing a shunt when you change the gear over to the old prado. Best option for me would be to install a lifepo4 slimline in the back with the fridges. Reduce the voltage drop to the power hungry drawer fridges. Check out Wild touring, he does a great comparison on these drawer fridges and going from his results, I would say the power draw would flatten an AGM overnight. Cheers for your work. Love the channels.
I have use these fridges and this type and size battery for five years now lots of info on it The battery is fine It’s a simple case of the charger does not do what I believe it should do given the battery state of charge
May I suggest you transition to a Victron Orion. With the app, you can adjust the charge profile to suit whatever battery or voltage you like. Plus, the new 50amp model will charge much faster than the redarc 25. Also, I would recommend the Victron 100/20 mppt solar charge controller. Comparing the output of many panels connected to integrated mppt vs a stand-alone charge controller. I think they are well worth the investment.
@@wesleymcgrath5175a 50amp charge on a mixed use AGM of no more than 100ah,FFS
It is like that because your electrics is not setup correctly. Nothing wrong with the gear.
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Two fridges off that battery is an absolute nonsense,i cant quite see what size it is,looks smaller maybe 75 or 90 ah or perhaps 100....you understand you have to halve that to get usable ah,theres no way it will run two fridges,one would be a stretch for it,3amps @,12 hours running thats 36ah per friggen fridge,how often have the fridges shut off due to low battery voltage?Dont think dc charger is your issue😂
@@andrewgould699 yeah battery is too small for the load. But he won’t be told cause he’s a know all expert!
He won’t be told cause he’s an expert. I think you might be the expert on everything actually. I’ve been using these drawer, fridges, and this type and size battery for five years I know exactly what it’s capable of and how it all works. I’ve got a lot of experience using it in the real world not just a vehicle set up and going to work every day like most people.
@@fourby4adventures704If you know so much about it. Why haven’t you fixed it. Instead of making videos about how your battery system doesn’t work properly?
@@fourby4adventures704 why haven’t you fixed it then?
@@fourby4adventures704 what size is it exactly? science and us end users with experience say its impossible to run that draw effectively on a batt of 75/90/100ah,unless your in temps of near freezing and fridge compressors arent on much though i dont imagine that, being in the back of a canopy with USB stuff using power as well? As for your phone chart thingy its common for a stuffed battery to quickly show fully charged at the terminals when charging then go into float.manufactures void warranties at anything under 11.8v yours have been there done that multiple times Your asking way too much from that battery and ideally would be better as close as possible to the fridges along with the dc charger. 5 years with that set up you must have had your engine running alot,/very short stays as the panel wouldn't keep up on its own either,i simply don't believe you.
Mate, you are doing something majorly wrong. Get proper informed help.
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He’s a know all expert!
Are you the expert on experts? How many times are you going to write that? Watch the videos and get properly informed get the whole story it’s pretty simple really each to their own if you want DC DC charger then go for it.
@@fourby4adventures704 I’ve watched plenty of your videos. The more I watch of you’re auto electrical videos the more I’m convinced you have very little knowledge!
@@fourby4adventures704 you’re the expert! There isn’t anything you don’t know!
The voltage data is meaningless without knowing what events are taking place in the system. Current in relation to system events need to be known as well as a conclusive understanding of system operation and hardware before condemning anything.
The bloke is running two fridges off of a dual purpose pissy AGM with a max capacity of 100, so around 50ah usable......the dometics draw 3amps not bad really,do the maths, battery is likely knackered
@@andrewgould699 agreed 👍 the battery has been run flat too many times past the point of no return.
@@andrewgould699yeah battery is small for 2 power hungry fridges.
And he too arragont to listen,his words "battery is fine" or puts in a laughing smiley emoji,tosser.....you can see in his app batt volts of 11.6v and 11.8v yet his batteries are fine.....sheeesh@@carltonr3417
Can the BCDC Dual Input charge from Solar and Vehicle power at the same time? Yes. The BCDC Dual Input will always attempt to supply power from the Solar source first (when available) and will supplement this input with power from the Vehicle source (when available). This is from the manual. Have you tried disconnecting thew solar input and seeing if it's different?
This is totally the case. It will always go for solar over alternator. Put in a battery shunt and see how many amps going in. I separated my solar and alternator and don’t use the solar charger in my DC DC. I use a separate PWM solar charger. All the excess voltage gets bled off as heat and kills the DC DCs.
Something doesn’t look right. As some have noted if the BCDC is set for solar priority then this might give the result you have. I would give Redarc a call, I have found their technical support very helpful in sorting out these types of issues.
Something certainly isn’t right that’s correct, but no settings have been changed and other times it charges at higher voltages as you can see in the video it’s even going up and down it should not happen Things should just work, simply and reliably, like when battery was charged directly from the alternator 😉🙏✌️
I think i am missing something here? If it is sitting on 13v when you are driving its fully charged. 12.8v is a fully charged battery? Is it the chargers fault the unefficient fridges have a massive draw when turned off?
Volts only tell half the story. You also need to know what amps are going into the battery. You are killing the battery running those inefficient drawer fridges. The battery capacity is too low too run 2 fridges! Not enough solar for 2 power hungry fridges either.
No, the charger is killing the battery because it’s not charging it like it should like it does most of the time, but not always that’s electronics for you works fine on the previous vehicle without a DC DC charger same fridges same Batterys as I already said in the video
@@fourby4adventures704 you’re the expert you know best!
Do you have thick enough cable running to the dcdc? I run mine with 8 awg wiring and it charges my battery at 14.1v. Lots of kits come with 10 or 12 awg and its not enough, has too much voltage drop and causes issues
The cables massive, check the information in the playlist, fridge solar battery
@@fourby4adventures704 people have varying opinions on massive cable. What cable size is it?
I can’t remember you would have to check the playlist but it’s big enough to jumpstart from using the SBI 12 4BS from memory
I had a look through quickly and couldn't see you mention it in a video.
what charger is this? what Size wire did you use? I normally follow your tips as gospel but on this video I'm doubting your electrical skills mate. I have had great experiences with both redarc and victron.
Watch Yesterdays video My auto electrical skills are pretty good actually, and these charges are inconsistent same as I already demonstrated with another one previous to this
@@SirLuisBarrera I suspect the wire is too thin, common issue. Most companies I've seen even recommend the wrong gauge, when you look it up on the chart it says you need thicker