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That's certainly way less sources than Notebook for sure. Although that may change. Regards.

Thanks for watching and commenting. Jellypod say they are planning a big improvement in voice quality this very month. Stay tuned. Regards, Jonathan.

Hi, and thanks for watching, and so glad you enjoyed the explanation. I would certainly be interested in doing an apples to apples type comparison, however I don't know of any other tool like Jellypod, standalone dedicated to creating ai podcasts, but things change so fast, if you know of an alternative do please let me know. And yes Notebook is free, but people are using it to make podcasts which isn''t what it's designed for so some viewers expressed frustration with its limitations for that end, so it's free but not podcast focused, where Jellypod is not free but is podcast focused. I know some people prefer to pay for the focus. Anyway thanks for your point of view and comment. Best regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes that's right, if you want to sound unique or communicate your brand/identity, you can't do that with Notebook - the voices are already well known. Best regards, Jonathan.

Yes, however some people feel they want more control and are willing to pay. But if Notebook does what you want it to then of course there's no reason to pay. Regards.

Thanks for your comment. To be honest they're not quite going against Notebook, because actually Notebook isn't designed for publishing podcasts, it's just that people are using it to that end, but they have to work with the limits of Notebook. Also, they have a lot of impending improvements, like better voices, and also video, amongst other things, so hopefully the will remain a viable alternative, and after all tool dedicated to ai podcast creation. Best regards, Jonathan.

@@Jonathans-HubJam All the best, Jon. To agree with you, I am certain they will improve in those areas. That said, while they may not be competing with Google "now," I believe soon Google will. Based on what I've seen and read, as well as our understanding of Google's monopolistic tendencies, I think any podcasting feature that Google currently lacks should be accompanied by a "yet" at the end. But I do hope and pray for their success, truly.

All the best to you too! And you might have a point - time will tell.

Thanks for your comment, you can't specify the length because it's generative ai, but you can set the transcript length. The more or less chapters in the outline / words in the transcript, the longer or shorter the output audio. My project in this video was about 1.7k words and the output was just under 11 mins, so I think you could work on about every 150 words being a minute of audio, then adjust your outline/transcript according to the audio length you're looking for. Hope that helps. Best regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your feedback. Jellypod say they are bringing out a big improvement in the voices this month. Regards, Jonathan.

Yes I couldn't agree more! Thanks to you for watching and commenting.

Hi, it was the standard plan.

Thanks for your comment. I know what you mean, however Jellypod are planning pretty big advancements they tell me, so perhaps they'll stay ahead of the curve. They are only focussed on making podcasts after all, where Notebook is a much broader tool. Regards, Jonathan.

So glad to hear you liked it! It's a pleasure. The project used aprox 650 credits for aprox. 1750 words of transcript. There is one point at which I show that in the video. Best regards, Jonathan.

@@Jonathans-HubJam My apologies, I missed that. R

No apology required - thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, the avatars are not photo-realistic, however I haven't come across any that are 100% convincing yet, on any tool (not that I've seen them all). Most importantly I think they need to fix the swaying heads in usison, which they say they are working on. Let me know how it goes with Jellypod. They tell me they're brining some big improvements this month. Regards, Jonathan.

You are so welcome, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and commenting. Regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment. Ok, regarding the flat voice well you can generate a voice and if you don't like how it comes out you can delete that host and create a new one. You get 3 voices to choose from, but perhaps until you have them in the actual podcast episode you can't evaluate it that well. I would recommend just doing a very short transcript as a test so you only use a few credits, so you can check the voice out. Perhaps also the voice library contains better voices, but I'm not sure because I haven't test that thoroughly. In any case Jellypod say to expect a big jump in voice improvement this month, which sounds great! Also regarding your question I didn't mention that you can insert interjections (interruptions) in the dialogue, and also they just added 25 languages. Ah and I see they've added Apple integration. Glad you found the video to be useful. Best regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment. Yes, Jellypod can do just that. When you write your host's backstory you say that he is the main host, and if that's you, then you clone your voice with Jellypod's voice cloner and create the other host with their voice designer, writing in the backsstory that they are the guest. Hope that helps.

Thanks for your feedback.

thanks for your feedback, I double checked with Jellypod and they confirmed their voice designer makes unique voices. I. believe it's like the Eleven Labs voice designer (without the backstory part). Yes, natural sounding speech isn't 100% there yet, and Notebook does have the edge there, although that also has some ai quirks from time to time. Anyway Jellypod say to expect a big jump in voice quality this month. I'll keep you posted. Regards, Jonathan.

@ the first voice you showed from that studio or magic studio is from 11 labs. I hear that every day in advertisement around TH-cam it’s one of the most famous voices in AI voice history used by the most people. Of course, technically it could be that they changed some frequencies in that voice and called it their own, but it’s the same voice.

ok I know that the voice library in Jellypod uses Eleven Labs voices. The voices that I showed in the magic voice design were first of all Diana Carter, then the NY business guy, then the wizard, (actually we heard 3 options for each of those), then the voice I created for Sarah. I believe the first one was Diana, but if you mean once I got underway creating the two hosts, then yes, the first voice was Matthew who is from the voice library, who is indeed an Eleven Labs voice, as are all the voices in the Jellypod voice library. Is that the one you mean? the British male voice I used for Matthew? Regards.

Fair enough! Thanks for watching and commenting.

Your welcome. Lets hope Notebook LM gets more voice languages though.​@@Jonathans-HubJam

I suppose it will..

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into it!

It's free and may beat Jellypod on natural sounding conversation but doesn't beat it as an ai podcast creation tool, if you want control over the script and the voices. But if Notebook is enough then that's perfect. Regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your feedback. Jellypod say they're bringing a big upgrade to voice quality this month - keep posted! Regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment. At this time only two. I will send them your question as a suggestion. Regards, Jonathan.

Glad to hear it! Regards, Jonathan.

Excellent, glad to hear it! Regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment. Yes absolutely, Notebook LM is free and an amazing tool, but not designed for podcasts. Some of my audience said they wish they could use ai to make podcasts with the voices of their choice and more control over the content, and then Jellypod came along to scratch that itch. For some people it's worth the cost. Best regards, Jonathan.

@ Hey Jonathan, while I can agree that Jellypod might have the edge for podcast creation, saying it leaves NotebookLM 'in the dust' is quite the stretch! 😄 NotebookLM is like a Swiss Army knife of AI tools that can do countless things Jellypod can only dream about. Each tool has its superpower - it's like comparing a specialized sports car to a versatile SUV that can handle any terrain. Both are great, just... different! 😉 Best! Stefano

of course you're right, I was only comparing it on the podcast creation front, which is what Jellypod was designed for. I know from previous viewer's comments about Notebook that a lot of people were taking the dialogue and creating podcasts from it, but were frustrated with the lack of control over the content and the voices (there are more now than then, but still limited). Then Jellypod appeared, a brand new tool, designed exactly to scratch that itch. Notebook is amazing, and will continue to bring out amazing new features, no disrespect to Notebook meant! I still intend to do a video on Notebook's features actually.. Best regards, Jonathan.

😂😂 great argument❤❤❤

​@stefanosimonetti1306😅great argument

I'll ask them!

I can reverse engineer it if not

Here's Jellypod's. reply: "An API is currently under development. Feel free to reach out if you’d like to be a part of the process. Message our website chat or email contact@jellypod.ai" Hope that helps, Jonathan.

I am a bit out of date with Eleven Labs lately, but are you sure they can do ai podcasts, with content that reflects the backstory? I know they have a unique voice designer. Regards.

@@Jonathans-HubJam yes search elevenlabs podcast and you'll find a lot of information

ooh, thank you for the suggestion, I must look at that ASAP! Regards.

Thanks to you for watching and commenting. Yes this is a pretty revolutionary tool/idea, and regarding the naturalness of the hosts, well Jellypod say that very soon they'll have a significant improvement in that. Keep watching! Regards, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment and your opinion. Actually Jellypod told me yesterday that they will be making a significant improvement to the naturality of the hosts this month.

​@@Jonathans-HubJam that is welcome news. Thankyou for bringing this tool to our attention.

A pleasure!

Thanks for your question. No you can't do that but I will suggest it to the Jellypod guys. Regards.

Here's Jellypod's reply: "You can add wav files as a source, but not as a word for word script. A big part of our value is host, narrative, and script customization." Hope that helps, Jonathan.

Thanks for your comment. I should think that with the url and/or the RSS feed that should be possible - I'm not an expert but from my experience I believe any site builder with blocks and elements has embed blocks for video/audio/podcast. Jellypod hosts your podcast, so probably with the link you can get you can do this. I'll ask them anyway and get back to you.

Here's Jellypod's reply: "On free plans, you can link the Jellypod share url, but you can’t embed right now. We’re working on an embedded player. On paid plans, you can download the mp3 and embed that, or embed the Spotify player." Hope that helps, Jonathan.

A pleasure! Looking forward the improvements on the horizon.

Please add to the host things like laughing and other human emotions as well as host interrupting each other like in a normal conversation. Giving the host lines to read sounds scripted and not natural because this not how podcast are like unless it's a education or scripted one. Most podcasts are free flowing. But this is amazing keep up the work.

@@EvanBlack11 thanks for your comment. Actually there is a feature for interjections (where people interrupt one another), but I didn't show it in this demo as it was already half an hour long. Also, Jellypod say that very soon they will have a big improvement in realism and natural sounding hosts. Keep posted! Regards, Jonathan.

@@EvanBlack11 Hi Evan, you can add [ ] around words in the transcript to make the hosts talk over one another. You can add speech blocks wherever by pressing Enter twice, if you'd like for them to cut off the speaker and then continue with their interruption. Laughs can be added as well, but how natural they sound depends on the voice.

Thanks for watching and commenting.. hmmm very interesting that you thought the magic voice creation was well below the other voices - the other voices bar Matthew's were also made with the magic voice design, and to me sound as good, dunno. Also really what's valueable with the voice design is the ability to influence the podcast episode's content by the backstories. Today one of the Jellypod founders was telling me how he created two backstories with opposing political views and the generated ai had them really arguing. Re the languages, Jellypod just added 25+ languages, which happened just as I was finishing the video off, so that'll have to be for another video. Re the hosts, well I was given access to the Starter plan to play around and record the demos, and just realised that yes I seem to be over the stated limits - I'll ask them about that and also about your question about deleting hosts (pretty sure you can). Bit late for me now, I'll ask them tomorrow and get back to you. Best regards, Jonathan.

@@Jonathans-HubJam I tried a magic voice and got similar results to yours, there was much more of an automaton feel. than with Matthew. Maybe someone will come up with some prompt hints that get more natural sounding ones. I heard from jellypod "On paid plans, you can create and delete clones and designs at will." . So you could do a podcast series with specific hosts and then change. Unfortunately the cost per minute then becomes a major factor. Good to hear that you can produce contentious viewpoints. That is a definite plus over NotebookLM from what I have experienced

Hi, yes it is paid. I put the pricing plans on screen towards the end of the video. If I find anything similar that's free I'll certainly let everyone know. Doubtful though. Regards.

This is what Jellypod said about cost: "Cost is a tough one, but we're doing our best. We hope that with the functionality that we launch over the next couple weeks, cost won't really be a factor." I may well post a new video about their new upadates.. Regards.

I have the same concern. It’s way too expensive at the moment - especially if you are starting out creating podcasts. I would expect to release one weekly but if you had a 30 min episode, say, that would cost 1800 credits (round up to 2000). That’s almost your monthly credit allowance used up on the US$280 annual sub. To do a weekly podcast you’d need the US$560 per year, which is too much. Especially in non-US countries like NZ where the subs are NZ$500 and NZ$1000 respectively. This means it’s really for those who already have a podcast that is monetised and who now want to spend less time creating the podcasts…

Yes I see your point. Jellypod say that they are planning such good improvements to their service that price shouldn't be an issue. When these improvements come I will be sure to make another video about them. Regards, Jonathan.

Hi and thanks for your comment. Yes that's a good point, however perhaps if we write in the backstory that one is the expert and the other the learner, then the ai would take that into account when it generates the content. In fact I will ask Jellypod about that now! I'll get back to you. Best regards, Jonathan.

ok I got their reply: "Yes absolutely. That’s the magic of Host Customization. There’s so much that can be done from this perspective over a NotebookLM. Cloned professor and a designed student, startup ceo and prospective client, etc. I recently wanted to take it to the extreme, so I made two hosts that were on political extremes and then gave them a recent news story. They went at it!" As I demonstrate in the video, the Magic Voice Design should be able to generate any type of host.. Hope that helps.

@@Jonathans-HubJam Fantastic! Thanks so much for taking the time to follow up with me and this company! You can even add this topic to one of your upcoming videos! 😉

@@yveskeroack1612 It's a pleasure! I might do that if I can..

Thanks for your comment and feedback. I have been mentioning this to Jellypod and they just replied to me the following: "Great feedback! The naturalness is only getting better and we hope to take a big step forward this month."

@Jonathans-HubJam thanks for getting back to me with that. Certainly an exciting platform.

It's a pleasure! Best regards, Jonathan.

I totally agree. NotebookLM also now allows interjections in the episode, easy to record with a screen recorder. I think the voice clone voice is pretty much as good as ElevenLabs, and the AI generated voices are amazing. But the podcast episode, especially Sarah is too uncanny valley for me. As mentioned, two separate scripts. For all the flaws of fixed voices and inability to customise script specifically, NotebookLM sounds remarkably natural, and is free. Also, 50 sources with 20,000 words 🤯 I willl try Jellypod some more to see how it improves. The biggest flaw right now is the lack of banter, jokes, and laughter. The lack of surprise.

@RogerLawrence Yes, notebookLM has improved very quickly, so if JellyPod can make some quick changes too, they may be able to grab at least some market share before google dump more money into pulling further ahead.

Glad you liked it!!

Thanks for your comment and feedback. I have been mentioning this to Jellypod and they just replied to me the following: "Great feedback! The naturalness is only getting better and we hope to take a big step forward this month."

What a good question.. I haven't tried that! I'll test it right now.

ok just checked - max hosts is 2!

Thanks for your comment. That's very interesting that you were working on something similar. Jellypod has integrated with Eleven Labs for its voices, at least up till now. Regards.

😂

When avatars get 100% natural it's going to be weird..

@@Jonathans-HubJam we can create our own AI celebs this year.

What’s the point of it? Just plain boring