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I think Saijo is a little better tasting. Giombo is larger and prettier. Giombo is easier to sell. Both Saijo and Giombo are my favorite treat, but for daily eating, Fuyu is my choice.

Yes, the Chocolate and Fuyu leaves look the same. The graft probably died and left you with a tree growing out of the American persimmon rootstock.

@@TC-eb4wu 2 trees are wrong then. I knew the newest fuju was wrong when compared to my old fuju. They probably don't graft any trees and sell them as Asians. Sure is odd both aren't grafted. I also had a new bare root Saijo I bought and the graft died. The rootstock tree has a 6" diameter trunk now. I've been trying to graft a fuju to that tree for 6 years now. The 6" long grafts will all get about 3' long and healthy and then die every summer. I graft all kinds of stuff and raise and sell pecans and never seen anything like it. That tree rejects Asians. I've tried other Asians on it also. I had a wild thicket I grafted into Asians until my neighbor had his pasture sprayed with herbicide and killed them all.

@@jamesbarron1202 I have grafted many Fuyu buds onto our native American persimmons. I would have to graft year after year until the bud took (T budding). I have learned that the easiest graft is the simple wedge graft done just before the tree leafs out in spring.

@@TC-eb4wu I inlay graft them when the buds just start opening. I’ve had good luck grafting my wild thicket on the farm. I’ve done at least 50 that took and very few fail. Only this one tree in my yard won’t accept grafts. It rejected the original pencil sized Saijo scion when I purchased it. I need to find a good named American variety to try on it. I think it would accept that. I’ve heard the really good American persimmons taste better than Asian varieties. That’s hard to imagine. To my taste, Asian Persimmons rank #1, peaches #2 and figs #3 out of all the fruit I’ve ever eaten. That’s homegrown fruit. Not tasteless grocery store fruit.

In season, two or three a day.

Hachiya retains its flavor when cooked. I prefer Giombo for eating off the tree, but not when cooking. If I am going to eat more than one, I prefer Fuyu. I like the crispness.

@@TC-eb4wu thanks

Dennis Hanks and Thomas Lincoln haven't been confused in the pictures I've seen.

@@TC-eb4wu Well they HAVE in the picture I'm referring to shown in your video. What is identified as being "Thomas Lincoln" looks nothing like Abraham Lincoln. His hair is not as dark (Abe had coal black hair), his build is stockier, his face is wider, his head is squarish as opposed to Abe's lean oblong head, and his lips are much thinner (Abe had a thick lower lip). The man in the photo resembles a distant photo of Dennis Hanks with his other cousin John Hanks, to whom there IS a resemblance. Since Nancy Hanks was apparently never photographed and had the same "dirt poor" farm background as her husband, it tends to make sense that NEITHER of them were ever photographed; as it seems they at least would have been for their wedding, as Abraham and Mary Todd were. And on the subject of his paternity, have you ever heard of a reference to a William Cessna being Abraham's father? I read in a book by Edwin Steers called "Lincoln Legends" or something like that that the Cessna family of Hardin County Kentucky (where Abraham was born) had a long tradition that "old man Cessna" was very horny and used to like to try to bed all the women in the County whether single or married and that Abraham was the result of one such liaison with Nancy Hanks. It was also from this family that the claim came that Thomas Lincoln's ballocks were too small for reproduction.

I think we can agree that Thomas Lincoln was not the father of Abraham Lincoln. The picture of Thomas Lincoln is that of Thomas Lincoln, not Dennis Hanks. Jefferson Davis looks much like Abraham Lincoln because they were brothers.

@@TC-eb4wu I don't agree to what I DON'T see evidence for. I DON'T know if Thomas Lincoln was his father or not without some authentic visual comparison. I DO agree that there are grounds for doubt, but only a DNA test would confirm that.

They don't do well in a pot. They are large trees that can grow in zone 4 and above.

@@TC-eb4wu I’ve never found a variety rated to zone 4. I’m gonna try a zone 5 American persimmon but there’s a good chance it won’t survive. Winters get down to -30 F although this last year was extremely mild from El Niño

You are asking for specifics that I am not sure I remember accurately. I can tell you that I am not diabetic, and I work at keeping it that way. I use intermittent fasting. With intermittent fasting, you eat two meals daily, four hours apart. You eat nothing between meals. I do intermittent fasting five days a week, Monday thru Friday. My first meal is at noon. I eat out and eat whatever is on the menu, including dessert. If someone is watching their weight and gives me their dessert, I will eat it too. I will eat my second and last meal for the day four to six hours later. I will eat just about anything. Mostly fruit and vegetables. I will not eat anything that contains sugar or flour. I avoid boxed or packaged foods. I will not eat anything else until noon the next day.

@@TC-eb4wu thank you.

@@TC-eb4wu can I ask how long it took u to beat diabetes?

@@Tworth23 About three months. I totally abstained from sugar and flour.

@@TC-eb4wu thx.

All my persimmons are growing in Houston’s intense heat and light. They seem to like the bright sun. If your tree is newly planted, you should not let the soil dry that first year. Keep the roots damp, but not wet.

@@TC-eb4wu we have similar weather. The leaves look cooked (wrinkled) and falling off and turning black. I just thought maybe it’s getting too much sun but apparently it’s another issue.

Climate affects the taste of the fruit. Taste will probably be significantly better in areas with longer, hotter summers as opposed to milder climates like England, the Pacific NW... Variety also makes a big difference. Ripe astringent-until-ripe varieties like the Giombo he recommended are much more flavorful than firm non-astringent persimmons.

@@patrickcleburneuczjsxpmp9558 Persimmons are a hype Beautiful tree and fruits nice coloration but truthfully very tasteless

@@MsLinjohn What kinds have you tried? Locally grown? Mass market? Both?

@@MsLinjohn You have no taste buds.

Actually you probably never have tasted a good persimmon, they are a blend between apple, honey, melon and pumpkin , depending on the stage of ripening one more or the other. Really nice fruits, love them. The best thing is, they ripen end of November beginning of December when the frost hits and the snow starts to fall, so you walk out in the cold and pick fresh fruits from an otherwise by then barren tree literally loaded with golden or orange fruits!

Fuyu and Jiro are so similar that some growers believe they are the same tree. Both have only female flowers. They are unusual because they produce fruit without pollination. Unpollinated fruit will be seedless. If there is a different persimmon variety nearby that has male flowers, the Fuyu and Jiro will have seeds. Seeded or unseeded, the fruit will be the same size and taste. There is no advantage to having a male tree nearby, unless you want seeds.

Fuyu is probably the best. It does not need pollination. If you get another variety to go with it, they will have seeds. It is best not to have another variety near your Fuyu.

@@TC-eb4wu I did not know that if you had a second persimmon tree it encourages it to develop seeds. The reason why II want to have 2 trees, it's because I read somewhere that if you cross pollinate 2 fruit trees of the same kind but different varieties, they produce a lot more fruits and they are much bigger and tastier. I don't know if this is true or not, and I don't know if you can do this with persimmon trees.

@@Figs4Life - I had a single Fuyu tree for five years. I enjoyed the delicious seedless fruit. After five years, I bought another type of Japanese persimmon tree. Then, my Fuyu tree started having seeds. The seeded fruit had the same taste and size as the non-seeded fruit. Interestingly, if an insect-pollinated a blossom, the tree would have seeded fruit only on the pollinated blossom. If an insect didn’t pollinate a blossom, that blossom would develop seedless fruit. I would have seeded fruit and seedless fruit on the same tree. If you want two persimmon trees, I recommend that you plant them far apart. Persimmons are an inexplicable fruit.

@@Figs4Life You'll only get pollination (and seeds, etc.) if your second tree has male flowers, but most selected/named persimmon varieties produce only all female flowers. (Persimmons are generally what's called dioecious, meaning trees are basically either male or female, unlike apples and lots of other fruits which will have male and female flower parts on the same tree and be able to pollinate each other AND make fruit.) So if you plant 2 or 20 different persimmons, as long as they're all true female varieties like Fuyu, you still won't get cross-pollination and seeds.

Austrian here, I have a tree in Austria in zone 7a comparable climate, Fuyu should be ok, or a variant which is similar. I have a Chioccolatino in my garden and it thrives in our climate. First year it maybe need some protection second year no protection at all it is quite cold tolerant!

Japanese persimmons are mostly seedless. It is rare to find a seed.

And they wouldn't come true to seed even if you did have a seed. You'd be as likely to get a male tree that didn't produce any fruit at all as a female, and if you did get a female, it would be different from Giombo, much like human children are different from their mothers.