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I am not running inserts and I usually run slightly higher pressures for my weight. I always thought the inserts were for when you were doing larger jumps or drops to avoid burping the tires on impact. I tend to break spokes when rocks or sticks fly up and hit the spokes or so it seems.

Follow Soccer Mom trail to Upper Canaan. Starts around 15:23

Just noticed you were riding a 130mm bike. I rode my 130mm bike on Lawnmower and it was brutal lol Just Bought a 160/150 🤙🏽

@@TheNewnan3 That sounds plush! It is a SB130 but it's "lunch rided" to 160/137. Lawnmower is so much fun even with this amount of travel.

@@MichauxGravityRidersIm sort of wondering if I should’ve gone with a 170mm bike but I think 160/150 should be okay

We have been talking about a trip down there for a few years now. The place is epic and one of our riders says this is #2 after Pisgah area on the east coast. Our group did ride Death Star at the end but sadly I didn't. I will say the shuttle was an adventure and just be prepared with a good 4WD vehicle when you drop in on the WV side.

@@MichauxGravityRiders I would agree with your friend on how good this place is. Did the cliff trail but still haven’t hit Death Star. I do Have my good old tundra 🤙🏾. Hope to catch you guys sometimes at Michaux. Love that place to 🤙🏾💯

The Watershed is really easy to shuttle. Hamburg Rd gets you to most of the top trails. You'll have to go in on Mountaindale Rd if you want to do the northern and steep side trails as there is a gate at the top of Fishing Creek Rd.

@IainWalker-f4j I still haven't seen any evidence of DCNR "cracking down" other than some trails disappearing on one 3rd party website and some "karens" on FB complaining about the trails. With so many riders tracking their rides and leaving heatmaps there are no secrets in this forest other than the ones that have 0 heatmaps. I believe that more people finding and using the trails for mountain biking increases advocacy for the sport.

We've spoken to multiple rangers and friends have attended meetings with the dcnr. The threat is real, please be advised. They have started blocking off trails, such as big boy.

@@IainWalker-f4j DCNR doesn't seem to be very transparent when it comes to their meetings. They often have closed or limited meetings to the public to discuss public use areas. I'm glad you have some friends going to these meetings - maybe these can be publicized? If 100 mountain bikers show up to these meetings maybe they will listen? As for Big Boy, I haven't been up that way in a few months. Just throwing this out there - did they block it off for the Ironmasters Challenge that was this past weekend? Or did they drop trees across it? I do find it ironic that popular "hidden" trails are publicized and used in a public event with 100s of people such as the Ironmasters Challenge, but mountain bikers are the problem. They allow motorized cycles for the enduro event on these "sensitive" trails but mountain bikers are the problem. The local trail associations that supposedly represent Michaux, have no advocacy for mountain biking.

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@@MichauxGravityRiders of course! I stumbled on this video but I loved the video angle, the amount of talking is minimal but also there and entertaining. It’s a great mix and I’d love to see many more riding videos like this!

There are no machine built flow trails in Michaux. You can find some "flowy" trails, some with jumps, but nothing like the Narrowback/Tillman trails in VA or Boundary Line in MD. Check out the backside of the ridge off Woodrow Rd. Everything you'll find here is raw trail riding.

@@MichauxGravityRiders awesome thanks man!

I never get any ticks on me. Ride on!

@@MichauxGravityRiders damnn, i wish my country was like that, theres ticks even in little grass

Nice! Which country? There are probably more ticks in my backyard than there are in this forest in Pennsylvania.

@@MichauxGravityRiders Latvia

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How does my husband ride with you all?? He’s a 47 year old local mountain biker who would love to ride with your group.

we don't have any group rides planned at the moment. have him follow my trailforks and message me through there if he wants to set something up

Middle Michaux just has a different feel to it, like it's bigger.

@rickmullenmullen1639 thanks for the feedback and for watching! I always include the list of trails in the title of the video as well as chapters if you want to skip ahead. Trail names are typically added in the video to show the start of a trail or when I'm changing trails. Ridelogs are included in the Description so you can see the route and direction I rode. Sometimes Trailforks will hide the map if they consider an area to be "sensitive". Hope that helps!

Nice, I see what you mean. We'll have to give that a go next time we're down there. Seems like it would be a nice side detour before hitting The Fear>Loam Ranger.

@blaine142, this route was so much fun we did this again last weekend and brought more friends with us. If you eat the steep side of the Shed for breakfast, you will appreciate Wigwam Hill, its nuts. Be on the lookout for jibs and gap jumps along the way on Yellow Ridge Descent - they come up on you fast. CH is chill for the first half but is a fast, loose, rocky descent on the 2nd half. Avoid this on a sunny 95 degree day as there is no cover in this area. I tend to like this one better than Astronomy even though the latter is a bit steeper. The last few times I've been down Astronomy there have been trees down which ruined the flow. These are all old school trails in this section and they are mostly official and marked with 4x4 posts, unlike others in the forest. And yeah, compared to all of these, Destination Mars kinda sucks but I'll give the trailbuilders creative points on that one. Thanks for watching!

@@MichauxGravityRiders yeah I watched: definitely saw at least 4 jibs/ jumps in the descent! Looks like a great rip. Thanks for the intel, I’m for sure going up here sooner than later.

This is great longer route down the mountain in Northern Michaux. Lots of accessible trails. I pray that you heal so you can enjoy the activities you love!

@@MichauxGravityRiders It’s going to take 3 or 4 months, but I’ll be back. 😎 Yea, that part of Michaux is so good now. Thanks!!!!

Its surprisingly steep and the difficulty level does not translate on video. Just know your limitations!

Good luck! Its a fun sport. If you're going to Hershey, bring a tire puncture kit!

@@joesmith3908 Thanks! Yeah, parking was at a premium at the Hamburg lot and Three Saws trailhead. There is so much more to explore but when we only go once a year everyone wants to rip Boundary and Catovid.

Thanks! Injuries heal, but epic riding days remain forever.

Wow, it was hard to walk down some sections. This is one I'd like to ride again.

This trail Vista is one of the best. With an ebike you'll make quick work of Cold Springs Road from Laurel Lake parking lot. Lots of trails across the ridge too. Thanks for the sub!

Yellow Ridge is so fast and long it almost feels like something from the Watershed. There were a few small climbs in this route but most of it was just fun and fast trail riding. I think I saw upper Gutter was going to be part of an upcoming MTB marathon so hopefully it gets some trimming by then.

Yes, my ridelog in the description shows 9.3 miles and that is hitting every trail. You can easily shorten this to your liking.

Get ready for a challenge!

fast and chattery - so much fun!!

Love the trails in Southern Michaux!

He claimed it was his only clean pair. What is everyone's preference for socks? High or low?

I didn't know that either and it was fascinating to see the aftermath up close, let alone ride through it. This is why I highly recommend riding this trail now if you can. Happy to share!

I appreciated you telling me on trailforks too. Enjoy the ride!

Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed it!

This is why it is still fun to hit these trails once in a while. I think I had more fun this time on my hardtail here than the previous time with my full suspension bike. This place doesn't really need full suspension to have fun!

It is a 2021 Giant Fathom 2 29. It still rides great!

Unfortunately most DCNR staff don’t ride mnt bikes regularly - maybe that’s a problem you could solve. Contact the regional office and ask if they’d come ride to ‘inspect’ the trails. Get to know them and develop a relationship. They work for DCNR because they love the outdoors and give a great deal of thought to stewardship. Also they are updating the Strategic Outdoor Recreation Plan this year- www.dcnr.pa.gov/Recreation/PAOutdoorRecPlan/Pages/default.aspx. Get involved 🎉

@whispering_pines Sounds great and thats what SAMBA has been doing, unfortunately all we get are XC trails but it's better then nothing I suppose

Agreed, most of these are not "new". I have heard the same from other riders who have been coming here much longer.

@blaine142 you make a great point and something I don't think I realized until things got to this level. Its certainly something that I'll be more mindful of in the future. I will say that no trail was ever exposed by me that didn't already exist as a published trail on TF or visible through the heatmaps. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, there are no secrets with this technology. If we can see it in the app, so can DCNR. If other people are riding in sensitive areas and posting their ridelogs to Strava or Trailforks, other users and entities will also know its there.

yeah I agree 100% with you on that statement. Also what I used to say to myself too, until I physically talked that guy who I mentioned was walking through the woods with a county member lol, then I was like “man maybe strava and ride logs on Trailforks is a bad idea” I’m not blaming you or even my videos that I’ve posted. So granted you can and everyone else can easily look up this information. The point of deleting it off Trailforks is to deter more people who aren’t as familiar with this area to ride here. Less people riding it, most likely less heat map. It takes ALOT of laps to make a heat map, so if you didn’t know this place and you got on Trailforks and saw 5 trails well you’d be like “well I ain’t going there, it will take me all damn year to find the good stuff “ so that means less people and less heat map. Also not to mention if you didn’t know it like the back of your hand (say DNR) you might be using this map to find where a lot of people are riding, if there’s no map. You have to work a little harder to find the trails (let me ask you how many state workers you see trying to work harder? AMiRIGHT?) 😅 So use strava in your normal legal rides (places where they want attention) continue to post your videos, but don’t pin point the exact location. I guess I’ve done more bad then good the past couple years so I’m toning it back because I love these trails and don’t want to see anything someone spent so much effort on be closed

@billygoat710 if you are using mobile then the regional data has been saved or cached to your device. If you open TF in the browser it will sync with their servers in real time and unfortunately all the trails are "hidden". I'm not sure for how long.

@@MichauxGravityRiders oh wow I get what your saying. I think it is local mountain bikers not wanting trails known. There’s a comment on a newer trail asking why people keep requesting trails be documented, stating they weren’t on there for a reason.

@@Billygoat710 Interesting theory. So it might not be DCNR who is hiding the trails to discourage MTB in this region? It may be the trail builders? I just don't know if that makes sense because DNCR has all of the "informal" trails cataloged in their most recent Trail Assessment PDF on the state MSF page. My point is DNCR already knows where these trails are. They were already documented on Trailforks and in their assessment. There are no secrets - especially with all the heatmap data. So why hide them? At least if they are on Trailforks, people can report issues and prevent re-routes if there are trees down or where there are erosion concerns. New trail riders get descriptions/ratings of the trails to help them make good choices to avoid injuries. DCNR gets data on which trails are the most popular which hopefully prevents them from getting shut down or helps to improve the maintenance. If more people ride in the region that is increased accessibility for the sport so if the district managers were smart about this, they would use this data to request more funding for MTB in the region.

@@MichauxGravityRiders I found the trail w afore mentioned comment. Its in comments under Hammy by st. wright.

Yep. You nailed it dude!

Not sure if this is local to this park or statewide