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I feel you for sure, they did an update recently it's not as bad I'm geared 567 and did a tier 6 as a ret pally. I don't think people are getting wrecked like that anymore

Not sure where you saw a nerf for them

@@DirtyEXP maelstrom stacks reducing wolves … you know enh shamans big damage

I mean maybe but it's favor in PVP got a huge buff to it's sustain and burst then minimized with their wolves, overall they got a massive buff

Dam I feel for you, if your low MMR in blitz the only thing I can say is grind out of it only because I've noticed once you get higher everyone is on the same page and wants to work together. Also from a leasing aspect use chat or ping system, people will listen if they want to win rated BGs

I think bc the maps are different it’s throwing ALOT of players off. I’m having the same issue. Things like: people sitting on inactive points in eye of the storm, people not recapping points when they time out in gulch, etc. I think it will get better. Grind it out bro. You got this!

I dislike you already. But yeah I need to try assassination for myself their so strong

Survivability, class difficulty, raw numbers from number rankings, and utility. I only really pvp and I watch dps meters along with leaderboards so gameplay experience goes into it as well.

@@DirtyEXP What's your main ? Any of your chars armory links you could share ? For curiosity's sake. I'm always up for new WoW PvP channels.

@Giferis right now I can't narrow a main down, I primarily play my mage the most but I would say that or my RET pally also I make class guides for all of them that I play and stream very frequently on YT and Twitch

@@DirtyEXP You should make a vid around your journey into PvP, I think it could help out a lot in general. Just a su

A single boomie can keep you out the game lol

Disc as a whole is strong you could be right but their presence is strong in the game, they are probably the easiest healer as well to play

@@aces8481 my problem is dks and warriors

Disc priest A teir imo sounds like they’re a sleep spec people must don’t know how good they are, they’re one pres actual nerf away from being tied for the best healer in the game along with mw. (Pres is busted right now)

@@iVibeBruh talking of bg blitz :)

That's why I think they are in B it's not just damage but their survivability isn't there, I think they get bursted easily.

As a main DH I second this. The dmg and survival isn’t there. Not compared when you solo a s tier class. Would like to see some buffs. But I know from dragon flight we probably won’t see love for a while.

Bro solo shuffle...is horrendous as a mage I'm SWEATING every match haha

I'm curious what information are you talking about?

Yes you need to finish the campaign

I would imagine so, main story has a wall on a lot of content

BRO dude so I just streamed last night and was bitching about it, I didn't know they patched it and couldn't find notes on it.

@@DirtyEXP saaad, was so much fun

wrong unholy will always be better because of pet interrupt. unholy has asphyxiate/ frost has dragon stun. unholy does a ton more dmg is way more viable.

Correct it does more damage. Frost has harder crits. Also frost has more stuns.

if u main it since cata and stll not 2400++ u shud quit the spec since 4 expansions already lol

@@creepcracker I’ve never pushed for rating before now, just goofing with friends

so whats your new game going to be?

@@JamesGreen-lr6go it was a joke lmao

@@Zinnshady yes i got the joke, you did not get mine, next time im sure you will

That is planned. I may work on that sooner though with the season being here, thanks for the feedback!

OK? He's playing what he wants he shouldn't have to cater to your ass seems to me IT'S you that's the issue not him he's having fun playing the class and spec he is enjoying even with it being bad unlike you who needs to switch to meta cause he sucks at playing underdog classes.

meta slaves are way worse

Based on this comment, you dont play video games for fun and they are not just games to you, they are your entire life.

@@garytheclone1890 willfully playing bad specs just to be hip amd cool is extremely selfish. You're just making the game worse for everyone

@@rickcasual I do, actually. That's why I strong people to play meta specs. It makes the game more fun for everybody.

Their damage is strong for sure, I agree. But defensively they don't have much other than their healing output.

​@DirtyEXP Not fluent with my abilities yet, but feel like whenever I'm trained as an dev Evo I'm dead always. Shadow on the other hand I'm almost always top dam and zero deaths

Spamming AOE and padding numbers doesn’t make them S tier. You need lethality in pvp.

I feel dumb for not doing so! I think I can do it without reuploading. Still learning, I appreciate the advice and sub dude!

​@@DirtyEXPappreciate it!

That's only if you talent into it but honestly for how many lava bursts you can cast in a short time and to benefit only one LB it's not worth the global in a burst stand point maybe sustain damage but I can place that point somewhere more beneficial

It's so satisfying to watch visually and when you hit that and flurry together the numbers go wild haha

@@DirtyEXP I’m brand new at the class but fun so far. Great video by the way. I don’t see you spec into comet much though?

@visionofgrey thanks man! I always take comet for the added burst especially since frostfire lays out aoe fire dmg on the ground. It's very strong when combined with the other instant casts