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somejazzguy
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2009
Flying the Dash 8 at Jazz
For my kid: this is what I do when I'm away from home day after day.
Many clips taken over 4 or 5 differents flights, showing engine start, take-off from runway 28 in CYUL, cruise and RNAV approach to CYSJ, visual approach and short landing using flap 35 on runway 24 in CYQB, taxi-in to the gate.
Many clips taken over 4 or 5 differents flights, showing engine start, take-off from runway 28 in CYUL, cruise and RNAV approach to CYSJ, visual approach and short landing using flap 35 on runway 24 in CYQB, taxi-in to the gate.
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Pilot Flying: Some Jazz Guy. Pilot Monitoring: Giorgio Moroder.
I actually liked the music enough to download it from iTunes! Thanks for making AND posting your video! I enjoy it very much - especially the subtle details of what you and your FO are looking at during the flight!
It's all too common for people to put a dance track to back their flight videos....I don't come to dance but to admire the plane. Wonder why people do that
Shitty music...
Nice vid!! Love it!
Too bad that crappy music was playing. Lets hear the freakin plane!
+Chris H YES YOU ARE 100% CORRECT
Aw, nice video, the music was a realllllllly nice touch. "Why didn't you use an airplane that had EFIS? lol" - Fellow D-8 captain I myself am honestly not that picky and thought the vid was great besides hahaha
this is awesome greetings from the Caribbean :) !!!!!
Dash-8 must be the safest plane in the air!
Every airline has its specific procedures, but most of the time they are pretty similar for a given aircraft type, since they are all based on the aircraft's manufacturer requirements. At Jazz the flap retraction altitude is normally 1000 ft above airport elevation. The reason being take-off performance calculations at Jazz are done using data provided by an external company (Aerodata), which in most case calls for a 1000' flap retraction altitude.
Very nice video! Love the Dash 8! Is it the same procedure at JZA as it is on all turboprop planes that it is after 400ft Flaps 0? Wideroe in norway have after takeoff, they call out 400 feet, flaps 0, is it the same at JZA? Just keep em coming! :D
It may happen if flightsim os overloadad i think. I had similar problems on my laptop with PMDG MD-11, but now i have more powerfull PC and i do not have any problems like this.
Please read the comments. It's been mentioned before.
song name?
Looks like a flight sim issue. I know nothing about that. The real aircraft is very stable in HDG mode.
First you set the altitude you want to climb or descent to in the Altitude Selector (seen at 2:42 in the vid) and press the ALT SEL button on the autopilot controller (ALT SEL tells to autopilot to level off at the altitude set in the Selector). Then you have to select a vertical mode to get to this altitude: for a climb, select IAS (ex: 160 kts) or Pitch (5deg nose up works good), to descent use VS. Adjust the speed or rate (shown in the Advisory Display) as required with the thumb wheel.
Videos like this inspire me to get through my aviation program. My goal is to fly for Air Canada, hopefully only a few years after graduation. Great video! sweet little planes those are!!
I know the Q400 is started in disc, but on the 100-200-300 Series the engine are started in Flt Idle. Same for all PT6 powered aircrafts I've flown. Not sure about other types. Disc is selected once the start sequance is complete, props still at Feather, to reduce noise and fuel burn.
Somejazzguy; I see :). Thx for the reply. But I still don't understand why it's started in flight idle. I believe most turboprops are started in disc/full fine. Am I wrong?
Almost no forward thrust as the propellers are in the feather position during starts. After engine start, DISCING is selected on the power levers as the props are unfeathered, so very little forward thrust produced, and for a brief moment. Engine exhaust, even at idle, actually makes some thrust. Not enough to start the aircraft moving, but once it gets going, there is enough exhaust thrust to taxi the aircraft with both engines feathered and power levers at flight idle...
Why is the Dash 8 started in flight idle and not disc? Doesn't it produce a lot of forward motion when started?
nice video - I like the Dash 8 - started on the Dash 7, some (the best) years on the Tyrolean Dash 8-100 and 300, and current on the Austrian Arrows Q400. The good old Prop's :-)
This is an amazing video you made here. I've watched this so many times you would not believe it! I use your video as a motivation to get through high school with great marks, go to aviation college, and finally one day become a pilot! You have no idea how much I appreciate you making this video. Martin
Skills, yo.
Hi JERademo - I am currently not with Jazz, and I apologize for giving you that impression. I have a lot of friends, however, that currently work for them, and that's where I get all my information, which is relatively current. Something to note is that the per-diems are around $80/day in un-taxable income, meaning that if you only spend $25/day of it, you could easily bring home an extra $10 000 annually of un-taxable income.
Starting salary for an FO is $41/hour, with a monthly and reserve guarantee of 77.5-82.5 flying hou, per diems $79.62/day, and Jazz with pay 150% salary with any flying over 85 hours per month. Jazz comes with full benefits and a great pension (something like $80 000/year after 20 years service). Great place to be right now. The pay is low compared to AC and WJA, but the perdiems and the benefits make up for it. The flying is a lot of fun too, and good schedules.
Great video, thanks for posting. My dad work for AC for close to 40 years from the time he graduated from McGill University, worked at YUL when AC was based there back in the day. He was the head senior buyer for AC, unfortunately he pasted away 3 month's before his retirement with AC. Brings back memories, thank you for posting this video of the DH-Dash-8.
awsome video.thanks for sharing.
@EdmDude Yes.
@musart Merci!
@dyockey As mentionned earlier, the 100-200-300 series are started with the power lever at flight idle. Once the start sequence is complete and the engine stabilized, discing is usually selected (lower fuel burn and noise).
@dash8brj GS & LOC are selected when available to get the Flight Director cues (autopilot off). The Flight Director is used most of the time. When turned on, the autopilot simply follows the Fight Director's commands, so basically anytime we switch the autopilot on the airplale simply keeps on doing what we were doing manually.
J'ai adoré ton video. Belle démonstration du travail de pilote et du fonctionnement des contrôles. Merci
@bradstock767 did you get hired on by Jazz? If so when does your groundschool start?
@somejazzguy This video has inspired me for two years now, ever since I was in college working on my licenses. I frequently used this as my inspiration throughout training as I went after my dream of flying the Dash 8 for jazz. As it turns out, I was one of the lucky ones go get selected for the Jazz interview program and succeeded. I watched this video at 5am in Toronto before my big interview. I don't think I was lacking motivation. Thanks for the post.
wondefull video
I know you did this for you kid and all, but the music killed it for me. Not the selection, just the fact that you had music. I really miss the sounds of the aircraft.
@kii519 lol. Why do you consider larger aircraft as an upgrade? Not everyone wants to do the boring ass long hauls. I know guys at Jazz who are planning to stay there their whole careers. Good lifestyle, good pay, amazing pension plans, and fun routings. It's not much fun letting the autopilot fly as you sit there.
Good video & Good Gift for your kid
i flying the 300 and 200 as captain, i was first officer on Q400, one of the difference between them is start up, flight idle for 200/300 and DISC for Q400
Holy shit, a prop at 23,000 ft. Wow
Do you guy start the engines in flight idle? I drive the Q400 and we start em in disc.
I fell asleep watching this, but not in the way you guys would thing. I was thorougly mesmorized as I love the dehavilland dash 8 - its my favourite plane. Thanks for a cool overview of the aircrafts cockpit, and its systems (some of which I know), I really appreciate it. P.S. GS and LOC? was someone using the A/P to land? :)
Nice job on the video. I enjoyed getting a quick glimpse at the gauges, controls, alerts and systems onboard the Dash. Seeing the FMS and printer was a surprise to me! Thanks for making and posting!
I recognize CYQB when you landed
Howdy. Pretty slick vid JazzGuy! I worked with another operator (not flying) for a while, and just noticed some things; - You guys have an op spec for landing at props 1050? I noticed the increase at around 6:30 was only to 1050. Is it common to use 1050? Or a mix? - Nice to see a good old Electro-Mechanical cockpit...with the UNS's..and a printer! Very nice. Are all the Jazz 8's similarly equipped? Or just the -100s? How's about the -300's? - It's great to see your enjoying your Jazz time.
so did you fly to saint john with a stop in quebec???
can someone teach me rnav aproach with pss dash 8 ? i got the newest air data installed .
@Chuky13XD Training for new hires at Jazz is something like 2 months.
@kii519 Jazz is not Air Canada. Air Canada used to own Jazz, but not anymore. They are separate airlines now, with a commercial contract between them.