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Cheese History
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Let's learn about the history of cheese.
I love history and I love everything about cheese - eating, making, melting, and discovering new things about it. Recently, I had the grate idea of combining those two passions and so this channel, Cheese History, was born!
This channel is where I will delve into the many different and fascinating stories that make up the history of the vast array of cheeses we have available to us around the world today. Cheese, in some form or another, has been around since humans domesticated sheep, goats, and cattle. It has changed and developed as civilizations have risen and fallen, as cultures have evolved and matured, as new technologies have been invented, and forms of transport have enabled it to spread around the globe. There is so much to explore. I hope you will join me for the ride.
I love history and I love everything about cheese - eating, making, melting, and discovering new things about it. Recently, I had the grate idea of combining those two passions and so this channel, Cheese History, was born!
This channel is where I will delve into the many different and fascinating stories that make up the history of the vast array of cheeses we have available to us around the world today. Cheese, in some form or another, has been around since humans domesticated sheep, goats, and cattle. It has changed and developed as civilizations have risen and fallen, as cultures have evolved and matured, as new technologies have been invented, and forms of transport have enabled it to spread around the globe. There is so much to explore. I hope you will join me for the ride.
How are Welsh rarebit, cheese nightmares, and early animation connected?
Have you ever wondered whether cheese really causes nightmares? It was a popular idea in the early 20th century thanks to the popularity of Welsh rarebit. So, in this video, I explore how the connection between Welsh rarebit and nightmares resulted in cartoons and animated films, capturing our imagination ever since.
Support me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/cheesehistory
Follow me on Instagram: cheese.history
Video on Welsh Rabbit: th-cam.com/video/AxNHeuVfQaA/w-d-xo.html
Read Maginn’s “Welsh Rabbits”: www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/60294
Read Cummins’ Welsh Rarebit Tales here: www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/60294/pg60294-images.html Or listen to the audiobook here: th-cam.com/video/udHaPoZWhHU/w-d-xo.html or here: librivox.org/welsh-rarebit-tales-by-harle-oren-cummins/
Links to McCay’s animated films (all public domain):
“Winsor McCay, the Famous Cartoonist of the N.Y. Herald and His Moving Comics” or “Little Nemo”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay,_the_Famous_Cartoonist_of_the_N.Y._Herald_and_His_Moving_Comics_-_Little_Nemo_(1911).webm
“How a Mosquito Operates”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1912)_How_a_Mosquito_Operates.webm
“Bug Vaudeville”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_Bug_Vaudeville.webm
“The Pet”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_The_Pet.webm
“The Flying House”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_The_Flying_House.webm
Sources
Cassell's Dictionary of Cookery. London, Paris & New York: Cassell Petter & Galpin, 1892.
"Sweet Dreams Are Made of Cheese." Daily Mail, 12 September 2005.
Ainsworth, William Harrison, ed. Bentley's Miscellany (Volume 11). Vol. 11. London: Richard Bentley, 1842.
Canemaker, John. Winsor Mccay: His Life and Art. Boca Raton, FL: CRC Press, 2018.
Cummins, Harle Oren. Welsh Rarebit Tales. Boston: Mutual Book Company, 1902.
Dickens, Charles. A Christmas Carol: In Prose Being a Ghost Story of Christmas. London: Chapman & Hall, 1843.
Dictionary, Oxford English. Virago, N., Sense 2.A.Oxford University Press, 2024.
Elias, Megan J. Food in the Untied States, 1890-1945. Santa Barbara: ABC-CLIO, 2009.
Glasse, Hannah. The Art of Cookery, Made Plain and Easy; Which Far Exceeds Any Thing of the Kind Ever yet Published. London: Printed for the author, and sold at Mrs. Ashburn's, a china shop, the corner of Fleet-Ditch, 1747.
McCay, Winsor. Dreams of a Rarebit Fiend. New York: Frederick A. Stokes Company, 1905.
Nielsen, Tore and Russell A. Powell. "Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: Food and Diet as Instigators of Bizarre and Disturbing Dreams." 6 (2015).
Oates, Caroline. "Cheese Gives You Nightmares: Old Hags and Heartburn." In Folklore, 114, 205, 2003.
Robinson, Henry W. and Walter Adams, eds. The Diary of Robert Hooke, 1672-1680: Transcribed from the Original in the Possession of the Corporation of the City of London (Guildhall Library). London: Wykeham Publications, 1935.
Rundell, Maria Eliza Ketelby. A New System of Domestic Cookery : Formed Upon Principles of Economy and Adapted to the Use of Private Families. London: J. Murray and J. Harding, 1806.
---. A New System of Domestic Cookery; Formed Upon Principles of Enonomy, and Adapted to the Use of Private Families. London: John Murray, 1810.
Images
Portrait of Charles Dickens by Jeremiah Gurney (public domain)
Portrait of Winsor McCay, 1906 (public domain)
Print of William Maginn by Daniel Maclise (public domain)
Welsh rarebit by Jeremy Keith, CC BY 2.0 (creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0), via Wikimedia Commons
Welsh Rarebit Tales cover, via Project Gutenberg (public domain)
00:00 Intro
00:27 Why is Welsh rarebit connected with nightmares?
01:17 Why was Welsh rarebit so popular in the early 1900s?
05:08 What earlier stories connect cheese and nightmares?
10:29 How did early animation bring these nightmares to life?
13:52 Is there any evidence for cheese causing nightmares?
18:16 Thanks for watching
#rarebit #cheese #cheesehistory
Support me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/cheesehistory
Follow me on Instagram: cheese.history
Video on Welsh Rabbit: th-cam.com/video/AxNHeuVfQaA/w-d-xo.html
Read Maginn’s “Welsh Rabbits”: www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/60294
Read Cummins’ Welsh Rarebit Tales here: www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/60294/pg60294-images.html Or listen to the audiobook here: th-cam.com/video/udHaPoZWhHU/w-d-xo.html or here: librivox.org/welsh-rarebit-tales-by-harle-oren-cummins/
Links to McCay’s animated films (all public domain):
“Winsor McCay, the Famous Cartoonist of the N.Y. Herald and His Moving Comics” or “Little Nemo”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay,_the_Famous_Cartoonist_of_the_N.Y._Herald_and_His_Moving_Comics_-_Little_Nemo_(1911).webm
“How a Mosquito Operates”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1912)_How_a_Mosquito_Operates.webm
“Bug Vaudeville”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_Bug_Vaudeville.webm
“The Pet”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_The_Pet.webm
“The Flying House”: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Winsor_McCay_(1921)_The_Flying_House.webm
Sources
Cassell's Dictionary of Cookery. London, Paris & New York: Cassell Petter & Galpin, 1892.
"Sweet Dreams Are Made of Cheese." Daily Mail, 12 September 2005.
Ainsworth, William Harrison, ed. Bentley's Miscellany (Volume 11). Vol. 11. London: Richard Bentley, 1842.
Canemaker, John. Winsor Mccay: His Life and Art. Boca Raton, FL: CRC Press, 2018.
Cummins, Harle Oren. Welsh Rarebit Tales. Boston: Mutual Book Company, 1902.
Dickens, Charles. A Christmas Carol: In Prose Being a Ghost Story of Christmas. London: Chapman & Hall, 1843.
Dictionary, Oxford English. Virago, N., Sense 2.A.Oxford University Press, 2024.
Elias, Megan J. Food in the Untied States, 1890-1945. Santa Barbara: ABC-CLIO, 2009.
Glasse, Hannah. The Art of Cookery, Made Plain and Easy; Which Far Exceeds Any Thing of the Kind Ever yet Published. London: Printed for the author, and sold at Mrs. Ashburn's, a china shop, the corner of Fleet-Ditch, 1747.
McCay, Winsor. Dreams of a Rarebit Fiend. New York: Frederick A. Stokes Company, 1905.
Nielsen, Tore and Russell A. Powell. "Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: Food and Diet as Instigators of Bizarre and Disturbing Dreams." 6 (2015).
Oates, Caroline. "Cheese Gives You Nightmares: Old Hags and Heartburn." In Folklore, 114, 205, 2003.
Robinson, Henry W. and Walter Adams, eds. The Diary of Robert Hooke, 1672-1680: Transcribed from the Original in the Possession of the Corporation of the City of London (Guildhall Library). London: Wykeham Publications, 1935.
Rundell, Maria Eliza Ketelby. A New System of Domestic Cookery : Formed Upon Principles of Economy and Adapted to the Use of Private Families. London: J. Murray and J. Harding, 1806.
---. A New System of Domestic Cookery; Formed Upon Principles of Enonomy, and Adapted to the Use of Private Families. London: John Murray, 1810.
Images
Portrait of Charles Dickens by Jeremiah Gurney (public domain)
Portrait of Winsor McCay, 1906 (public domain)
Print of William Maginn by Daniel Maclise (public domain)
Welsh rarebit by Jeremy Keith, CC BY 2.0 (creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0), via Wikimedia Commons
Welsh Rarebit Tales cover, via Project Gutenberg (public domain)
00:00 Intro
00:27 Why is Welsh rarebit connected with nightmares?
01:17 Why was Welsh rarebit so popular in the early 1900s?
05:08 What earlier stories connect cheese and nightmares?
10:29 How did early animation bring these nightmares to life?
13:52 Is there any evidence for cheese causing nightmares?
18:16 Thanks for watching
#rarebit #cheese #cheesehistory
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I discovered Brie Cheese with the Ile De France brand Cheese
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I love history, and I like cheese
Me too 😀
This is so well researched! They really do need more studies on cheese 🧀
Thanks for another great video! Love from the UK.
As somebody who has a piece of chese after very late dinner I say that it has no such effect on me.
100% get cheese dreams. I stopped eating pizza at night because of them
That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Before I can even go looking for a bit I am unfamiliar with, a full explanation with a link for a source. This is why I love coming here. Not cheese, but varenicline has given some wildly vivid dreams (at least establishes what you ingest can affect your dreams).
That description of Welsh rarebit almost made it sound like a fondue. Bread with a mysterious liquid cheese served separately.
They are kind of similar
Yey! I've been waiting for a new video from you! Wonderful video today
Absolutely adore your videos. Thank you for making them :)
Ahoy. I am Todd from Utah. I live in an area with limestone caves. Just wondering about about what makes cheddar cheddar? Is it a mold that might occur in the caves? I had a vision about a demon type thing in an area here with lots of caves. I think it might mean a new cheese might be born. Would that be possible?
Low temp pasturization does not change the enzymic activity in milk... dont pasturize over 145° F
I love blue Cheese for me it's more dynamic than any other cheese. Blue stilton all the way, it's got taste and style with that flavor!! it's extra healthy.
why should americans care what europeans call their products???? dumb way of thinking
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I'm of the Ardianna line
I went to culinary school in Canada and we were always taught that Welsh rarebit , was a stew made out of beer and cheese to trick weary travelers into thinking they were eating a rabbit stew. Full disclosure, this could be a total myth Absolutely love this channel and all the content you post. I've watched every Video and absolutely can't wait for the next one
I haven't come across that one. I will have to look into it. Thanks 😀
We tried Stilton for the first time last year in our 60's. My goodness. We'll never buy supermarket cheese again. So complex, not overpowering, as you say. We felt like Kings; but tell me, is there truth to those "Stilton Nightmares" afterwards during sleep? 😂, we had the strangest dreams.
Haha. Funny you mention cheese and nightmares. I'm looking into it at the moment for a future video. I hope the dreams weren't too disturbing.
Instead of all these crazy Utube recipes, I wish more folks would watch experts like yourself explain what makes a certain food that we can afford great. Thanks.
Just sittin here at 2:12am thinkin about cheese 🧀
I feel gorgonzola deserves a seat at the table
This is so fascinating!
Thank you!
This has randomly popped up on my feed, and I couldn't be happier! Thank you.
You're welcome
Seriously... What an incredible voice 🤩 You could narrate a worm race & I'd tune in
do you think the tier list is fair? some cheeses are popular in certain regions. Shanklish cheese is gross for many but it is addictive and yummy for levant region.
I would think it would depend on the application. For sardines I think I would use Roquefort but for a sauce perhaps Gorgonzola.
The cheddar, in World War 2, was called 'Government Cheddar'. Can you imagine what a food product that was overseen by politicians tasted like!?
As a very tangentially related aside, highly recommend Farming Explained for a more indepth look at farming history in the UK around this time. Intrigue, lords, farmers getting shot... there's a lot more to this story.
Thanks for the tip. I will look into it
How did I end up here
One major question which I can get answered. What is the difference in the remnant (bacteria) that makes a cow's milk as cheddar or Parmesan instead of blue cheese or brie? Was this all found by accident or is it mainly the method of making cheese? I heard one story that blue cheese was made when the bacteria of the cave it was stored changed the cheese.
I have a video on the origins of blue cheese. The common story is that the blue mold comes from caves, but it is more likely that the mold spores made it into the milk during the milking or making process as they are commonly found in hay. They thrived in the caves where the cheese was aged though, so that's how the cave story came about. Thanks for watching.
I really enjoyed your presentation. No history of cheese making would be complete without a mention of Derbyshire which you did at 11:00. It is an interesting sideline. 1870 Cornelius Schemerhorn an American was brought over by a group of businessmen in Derbyshire to setup and manage a cheese factory. The building of this first cheese factory in Britain still exists as a private home Looking through the records it seems there was a sister factory in Canal Street in Derby which yielded the first cheese. I would happily share the documents I found when I was researching this.
Wow. That's so cool. If you could share the documents, that would be amazing.
@@cheesehistory Englands first Cheese Factory by L B Powell Written for country life February 1963 In this afflient age we can all be of cheese. Creamy stilton may caress the palate or the tang of choice cheddar gratify the tongue. The distincitve and subtle flavours of Cheshire and Double gloucster and lancashire -all those and more provid warmly once ruled. English regional cheese today more than hold there own with anything that comes from abroad. It could have been different. It is at dead conceivable tat cheesemaking on any commercial scale in this country could have been permanently extingtuished and in gratitude that was The Hon. E. W. K COke , brother of the renowned Earl of Norfolk and of Conerlius Schermerhorn. Schermerhorn called to these shores from American early in 1870 and duly arrived where he was needed in Derby in the spring of that year. He was agreeted affiably we may be sure by Coke and the rest of a company of landed gentry and farmers at wose urgent bidding had come for the specific purpose of saving commercial cheese making in England from extinction. Schermerhorn was an adept in the new technique of factory cheese maing which made great headway in the United States, It was supplying not only the domestic market there but imports to Britain were beginning to dominate the market here at a time when the demand for cheese was rising fact in the new towns of the Industrial revolution. What the Derbyshire famers accomplished under the guidance of Schermerhorn is worth recalling for it is not without a moral for today. Nor is it without irony that salvation should have come from American for only a few years before Schermerhorn came Joseph Harding, a son of Somerset whose name is illustrous in the annals of cheese making had put Cheddar on a pinnavle of fame in that coutry. The American system was largely an adaptation of that practised by Harding and what is more they stole the name of Cheddar for their new standardised produce. Harding, it must be said in pasing, well deserves his niche in history. A father of seven sons and six daughters, he trained and applied themall and Mrs Harding as well to the craft of making Cheddar farmhouse cheese. And he travelled the country widely preaching reform in cheese making methods with evangelical zeal and advocating with far sighted vision the setting up of adairy colleges for that purpose. Perhaps it was inevitable that events should overtake him In he fast expanding manufacturing towns the new artisan class were setting their own pattern in food habits. Cheese that was cheap and would keep well was populat, the Americans were supplying it and cheesemongers had little time for rural revivalists of Hardings’s kind. As givers of credit to farmhouse cheese-makers they were dictating prices and prices were ruinous. That was the background against which Coke and his colleagues after some careful inquiries in the United States, took Schermerhorn on at what was then the ample stiped of £200 for a cheese-making season which his passage paid and board and lodging thrown in. He was later joined by his borther Levi. Coke and his colleagues raised a fund of £5,000 for guarantee the Derbyshire farmers against loss and he it was who built for the venture the first cheese-making fatory in ENgland at Longford where it stills stands on the farm of Mr R T Archer who in recent monthhs has made good extensive damage caued by gales. It was since been converted to other uses, but a bronze plate on the front bears the inserption, “The first cheese factory built in England opened May 4, 1870 under the management of Cornelius Shcermerhorn. Taking milk at 6 ½ d a gallon from about 400 cows within a radius of three miles, the Longford factory was turning out Cheddar type cheese superor in quality to the American and was selling it at about 8 a cwt,which showed a modest margin. Interest in the new factory ran high amog the famrming comunity over a wide area and a record at the time says ‘vast numbers’ of people visited Longford to see the new process at work. Within 11 years, 12 more factories ahd been opened in the county and more had sprng up in other parts of the country English cheese-making had been set on a enw ourse and Schermerhorn brothers had fully played the part expected of them Yet the Longfor project had a far more easy path to uccess in its early stages, Bitter oppostion was encoutered from the cheese mongers who resotred to any means calculated to wreck the enterprise. And for a time cheese had to be sold in distant markets to make a fair price. This, said the abagement comitteee in its fist report was caused ‘by the extraordinary and unexpected jealousy and dislke with which the movement was viewed by some factors of considerable influemce in the trade” But eventually victory was achieved , and it was not only the consumers of cheese who gained therefrom. The monopoly of the cheese-mongers was broken, the viscous system by which farmers relied on them for creidt was brokem and the moral that is pays producers to co-operate was well illustrated. In the course of the new few decades factory cheese making declied and prices fel as low as 52s 6d a c.w.t not the least reason being the famres were finding it paud them better to send their frsh milk to the growing populations that were serverd by the rapidly improving railwas. The ultimate revival of English regional cheeses belongs to the our own day. Gourmets wit long memories may be nostalgic for some of the local types that have disappeared and may search in vain for soft cheeses flavoured with garlic, tarragon, basil , mint, marigold and other herbs. But the modern cheese counter gives a fair enough choice and monotonys we may hope have been banished from it for ever.
I wish I could find out more about Mr Schermerhorn.
There was a model made of the factory and it won a prize at one of the agricutural shows. I wondered what happened to the model.
I love this video And blue cheeses are my favorite in the family of cheeses. My favorite variety is called St. Agur. Those Cheeses are as close to perfection as cheeses get. Thank you for covering the history of blue cheese And incidentally I cannot believe the tale of the shepherd. But I do think it was accidentally produced. Many cheeses were...
Cheese, or in the words of Stephen Fry "Milk gone off, big time stiley"!
CE - no need to be woke, down vote.
Gosh I love pretty much all cheese except bleu cheese but it’s pretty fascinating how it’s made. Just the fact that we purposely eat things with mold but other molds are deadly. Pretty cool.
Probably the best cheese history video on youtube. This video must have taken a lot of research. And you brilliantly stich--elton'd it together. Thankyou.
Please compare Baron Bigod (England's finest brie) and Brie de Meaux (the French stalwart).
For me, Colston Bassett is the best of the Stiltons. However, Cropwell Bishop also make Beauvale which is more of a dolcelatte-style blue, which is wonderful
Stilton has absolutely re-claimed its authenticity, not least through acquiring a PDO.
I can't believe you missed the chance to name the channel the cheesetorian. 😂