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You need a build to get there.

I know they did something to Titans resolve that made it kinda useless (according to another commenter).

I've found w/o a 3 star 5, there really is no chance and preferable, one like Smolder that wipes the whole board QUICK.

@@AutarchTFT finally beat her again most of my recent failed games i had 3+ 3star 5 costs and still lost i assume it is massive rng or positioning.

That looks cool! Is there a place to get it other than Steam?

@@AutarchTFT Just steam for now unfortunately

I'm trying to get in touch with the developer. I'm happy to buy it direct.

@@AutarchTFT the game has a discord server and the developer is fairly active there, might be worth trying

Not a fan of the scoring system too much either.. item greed in particular though, and how every game ends the same though to be fair I don't see much of a way around that issue myself

I am hoping they do more! I feel like, with some effort, they can capture a roguelite style. Conceptually, they could compose the board from random "builds" and scale based on level. Consider how many "builds" they could pre-program from stage 4->10 (so many interesting combinations) and then they could scale the build based on items and star level of champs. My Kid is the coder in the household, but I feel like if I can conceive it, someone can code it. Then you could easily go into an endless mode, that has only builds made up of 10 champs that keep scaling. You could create a "map" where you choose your path, which helps you put together your team. They really have infinite possibilities and I hope they more in this direction.

TBH, this is the only game mode I have played this season b/c it felt closer to original TFT (more strategy, a little less RNG) It is also really good for learning the items, the champs, etc.. b.c you get to look everything over BEFORE hitting "fight." I'm hoping they continue to create modes kinda like this in the future with a few tweaks.

YAY!!!

Sad, but true.

You shouldn't force anything, but last time I checked (a few days ago) this still worked pretty well for getting through normal mode.

Depends on what you consider "winning." It's a score based game, so if you got a great score, you won. As far as completing the run, only technically if you lost.

@@AutarchTFT When i say winning i mean did i beat her or do i also have to kill all the mobs/champs she spawned When she die?

To officially beat the run, you need to beat all the mobs that spawn when she dies.

For WW I use rageblade, edge of night and giant slayer... just used it yesterday on chaos and blew through it. But why would they take the amp of titans? Makes it useless... I hate changes like that.

I know I have that name all wrong... I've always said zin show (but with the ow pronounced like OW)

YAY! Glad it helped!

Thank you!!!

If you want a sure thing go with the ww build... that will win pretty much everytime. The other build is just more fun.

Veegar

I'm not a fan of forcing it and if you aren't getting early Shyvannas, abandon ship and try some of the other builds. You can also use the builds I have in my Chaos video (such a WW Vanguard and Veigar honeymancer). The real key is trying to work with what the games gives you. If you don't have Shyvanna 2 by the time you hit Jayce, I would consider pivoting to another build. Also getting good Nomsey items are key b/c he will do a lot of your damage. Hope this helps!

@@AutarchTFT thank you, I've only been playing TFT for like 4 in game hours so I have no idea what I'm doing. before this I was trying to run witchcraft faerie lol and could rarely beat the third or even second nasus. I also have no idea how to properly pivot so I end up basically selling my entire board and then being left stranded lmao

Ahh... TFT has a pretty steep learning curve.. it's kinda one of those things that once it clicks in, you will get it, but it's frustrating before then and it makes you feel like there is something wrong. (I went through this with everyone I introduced to TFT and ultimately they get it.. but it takes time.) I would FIRST focus on learning the items really well and know exactly what combos work. For example, in shapshifter/dragon you want to make sure you have a dragon's claw (two negatron cloaks) and a warmogs (two giants belts) for Shyvanna and a rageblade (Rod and bow) and last whisperer for nomsy (bow and glove). When my kid was learning he always kept the item chart up on his second monitor and when my dad was learning, he kept a print out of the item chart. Once you know the items, things will become a little easier. The good thing with Tocker's Trials is you don't have time limits, so you can take your time to look through anvils and consider what items you need w/o having the match start on you. Then I would pick 2 or 3 builds and and try and learn how they fit together and what items work best with them... when you see champs that fit into EITHER build pick them up.. that way when you pivot, you are pivoting to something you already have on your bench. This may hold you back a little as you are learning simply b/c you won't be maximizing interest all the time, BUT you are going to start to recognize what build you should be heading for earlier and earlier. So, for example, you can pick up champs for shapeshifter AND portal/scholar.. then if you start getting AP items (tears, rods, etc..) you head into portal/scholar.. if you get the makings of dragons claw and rage blade, head into shapeshifter dragon. Hope this helps a little.. and believe me... EVERYONE feels the same when they start this (Most won't admit it), but it takes a good 10 hours before you really start to feel comfortable with some of the builds.

@AutarchTFT @AutarchTFT I'm starting to build that knowledge a little, I used to play just hyper roll with friends and some of then were like me, some were consistent diamonds. So I've heard things like AP, and I'm starting to understand which items work on which characters, (like blue buff on ahri and Blue Staff on Lillia) but sometimes if I can't make their ideal items (say I can only make hextech gun or evershroud) I don't always know if I should wait or make the less ideal item and use it. Some things I understand but don't know how to apply it, and some things I understand on it's own, but I don't know how it compares to other things. (Like wtf is omnivamp and is it good on someone like Neeko compared to damage amp or attack speed). I always have chrome open on my second monitor and I have blitz installed to help remember item combos, I'm getting some of them (I know two belts is warmogs, two tears is blue buff, bow and gauntlet make last whisper etc) I also made a sort of step by step checklist on my notes app for this strat, like when to save free rolls and when to roll down, move nomsy/jayce etc and that has helped rather than replaying the video and realising I just sunk 15 minutes into a run I threw at 2-1 for forgetting to do something or losing a life because of bad rolls. I had my first run last night where I got to stage like 3-6 or 3-7. I have more success getting the Gem or Locket item and the new recruit augment than I do getting thrill of the hunt lol.

I suspect, from what you are saying, you didn't start in regular league of legends, which sadly, puts you at a disadvantage (this was a problem my dad faced when he started in TFT). AP = Ability Power aka Magic. AD = Attack Damage aka Physical. Different champs are better with different types of damage. In the early days TFT mirrored League, so if you knew the league champs, you would kinda know the TFT champs. But, now they have some that aren't the same (ie, Neeko as a tank is pretty unique to TFT), so you are not as far behind as you would have been. You will get there!!

To win with WW in chaos, you MUST transition to a 3* 5 cost. WW alone cannot handle it.

YAY! Glad it helped.

Yes, in Chaos mode I believe when you get 5 stars they are prismatic.

He's always been VEEgar to me ;)

Score is ultimately what matters. Sometimes to get a higher score you have to lose lives. But, the route to getting the "highest" score is just too annoying to deal with.

@@AutarchTFT I mean the result doesn't matter if you don't have a perfect summaries. Even if we scored a billion points, it wouldn't matter because in the summary you would have 29/30 :D

From what I understand, all they track is the score, so you could technically not even win the last fight and still end up at the "top" of the leaderboards... but then I haven't really been following the leaderboards.

love that 😅 from now on It's VEEgar for me!

everyones entitled to their opinion, even when its wrong.

thats fine call him that between your friends, but i don't think you understand how annoying and off putting it its epically when you over pronounce it like your only doing it on purpose to annoy.

@@TheSirAshton90 I am The Autarch

The way it works in tockers is based on "item greed." So if you leave item components (or even full items) on your bench, it will grow QUICKLY and Veigar will get really powerful.

www.dictionary.com/browse/autarch ;)

Once you have the Xerath 3, if you have the time and patience, you can get every 5 to 3*.. It went by quick, but in the end of this video, I think I hit every single one at least once.

He's always been Veegar to me... (I think my NY roots make it sound like ur at the end).. but I didn't know there even was a different pronunciation until I started making TH-cam vids a couple of years ago and now I just find it funny, b/c I forget make a new video and people remind me I have it all wrong. ;)

You NEED a 3* 4 cost. I've done it several times with a 3* Nasus in the shapeshifter dragon build. But try to focus on holding your free rerolls as long as possible so you can maximize your chances. One nice thing in this mode, if you get a bad start, you can just exit and start again w/o losing "rank" or "lp", so you can start over and over until you get a start you want.. that's what I did to do the WW video in the second half of this video.

@@AutarchTFT ok, thanks

@@AutarchTFT finally did it with a Briar 2 somehow no 3star 4 cost.

YAY!!!

Sadly, I feel that is what has become of TFT in general. This mode is a little bit closer to old style, where you have slightly more control, but it still requires a lot of luck.

He's always been VEE-gar to me ;)

@@AutarchTFT I get it, "I's" arent real!!

@@AutarchTFT also, it sounds like you say veegor and not veegar as well :D

That's just my NY blood coming through. But, also the reason it has been Veigar is b/c there are a ton of words where ei is pronounced EE. Seize, Conceive, Neither, Ceiling (and hundreds more), but there are ALSO words where ei is the AY sound (weigh, sleigh, etc..). When I first saw the name in 2012, my brain chose Veegar (again excuse the NY blood on the ending).. and it was the same name my league friends all used, my family (who all play league) used.. it wasn't until I started making content that people corrected me and I looked it up and watched the champion reveal from way back when that I saw.. "oh, It's "Veygar"... but NY blood.. Taurus... it will always be VEEgar to me ;)

I guess you could farm a little with 2 tanky b/c you get the extra 2 star, but that feels like a lot more work.

@@AutarchTFTwith two tanky it actually results in a net positive amount of gold if you can buy out all the 5 costs and then keep selling and rebuying the same 5 cost (ex Morgana) until the game times out and ends at 1:30:00. (Keeping the 2 star copy and selling the 3 star) It’s how people get scores in the 10,000,000

Ahh, I get it... b/c you get the 2 star legendary along with the 3, if you get lucky, you can kinda do it perpetually.

What don't work?

LOL!! Love this!

Me to LoL. I used Norra and Smolder 3 stars, and lost for another Smolder 🤡

@@pedropuga8046 yeah haha i had norra and milio on 3*

Are you doing the Portals/Scholar build? I really like that one, but for some reason, Ryze always ended up being really elusive and I found w/o Ryze 3, I would drop too many rounds in the later part of stage 3.

Something, though, about the honeymancer build gives me a buzz.

Kinda no, kinda yes. I'll pin a whole comment at the top.. but prior to me making TH-cam videos, I played league since 2012 and always pronounced it that way. It wasn't until i started making TFT content that when he was a champ, people would correct me and I found out I had lots of champs wrong (Veigar I pronounced Veegar, Zyra I pronounce Zeera, Teemo I pronounced Tito)

I've always pronounced it Veegar. If he shows up and blasts me with some magic, I will certainly reconsider ;)

@@AutarchTFTjust because you always pronounced it that way doesn’t mean it’s right nubcakes

It doesn't make it wrong either, sweetheart.