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Yeah "just a short little video" demystifying exciters and giving you insane control with stock Ableton plugins... :O

The band I'm in uses an XR18 with X-Air software, which is pretty intuitive and easy to use, especially personal monitor mixes on iPhones. I bought an MR18 for my personal use because of the upgraded hardware and preamps but really don't like the M-Air software. The iPad version soft controls (especially for input gain) are frustrating and harder to use in a live mix and there is nothing for personal monitor mixes on the iPhone that compares with the X-Air software. Is there a better software package for using with the MR18? Mixing Station perhaps?

Great video

Thanks for the excellent presentation! Will I be able to use this with Logic or any other DAW? Will I be able to go into the tracks recorded & edit a specific track if needed?

Wondering who the recorded singer is?

Whatever setting you got tracking you, zooming in and out, mercy. It's nauseating and adds nothing.

It's certainly worth it. We just switched to the MR18, after many years of XR18 use, and it seems to be an immediate improvement. Happy 100th video!!🎉🎉

I use an XR18 for my virtual keys and backing tracks live. I have an MR18 in my studio for recording and tracking. Amazing machines.

What type of tablet do you use?

Great video Steve! I just picked up my X Air18 yesterday. I have a couple of questions as I’m having trouble getting connected to my DAW, Reaper. I have been successful in giving the built-in mixer working. Can the built-in mixer run at the same time as Reaper?

The preamp level difference has zero to do with quality. Its simply circuit design. The Midas are objectively better, even if you have to push them harder (on the digital readout)for the same level.

Learn a lot, thanks

Having started out with a XR 18 and moved to the MR 18. We noticed a definite improvement in clarity with the Midas, Further, after about 2 years the XR 18 it began to have issues with the left main output, after some research we dissembled and re-seated the ribbon cables and it solved the issue... for a time we were required to do it again a few times over the years. and we finally hot glued it into place and had no further issues, (5 to 6 years total ownership), we are going on 3 years with the Midas and have had no issues with the audio at all. for $100 is a small price to pay for a better product. but I really loved them both.

Freaking nightmare. Now years later ..kontact7 is here with on board browsing.i want the sounds so bad ..but am not savvy. It sounds like there are 4 ways to go bad at the jump.ive been out of music for five years ..all these stories are at least 3 old. Now theyre talking about Kontakt8 /15. Not interested .

how does the waves tuner know what midi channel to use as carrier?

I believe you said it in the end.. The XR18 for the concert and The MR18 for the studio. That extra 100$ may be useful in the studio when you said that the MR18 has more clarity if you boost the preamp.. for recording purposes.. at the concert I believe that extra 100$ doesn’t matter so much. 🤷‍♂️ that the conclusion for me, thank you !!

where we can find this song?

MR18 is something else !!!

such a great video! had some real good insights.... will follow on fb. cheers from Oz

Thank you. I was thinking of buying another interface. One question? The sound is recorded very soft into the DAW. I just change the gain there. Is that normal?

With the xair 18 or 16 is there need to buy an audio interface or it has an audio interface in it

The only way to really test this is to use both mixers in a real world situation, such as with a live band. Use a splitter and use identical mixes, eq, etc and then make a comparison. Chances are no one would be able to tell the difference in a blind test.

behringer xr18 nowadays in sweetwater, 460 dollars, midas keep costing the same 830

Got it last week for $459🔥on sweetwater

Nice

When buying a new drum set, is it a good idea to buy extended warranty?

What I hear on YT is more highs and mids from the XR18, but I here more warmth in the MR18 in and around them same frequencies. I bought the Midas mr18 about 5 months ago for live use. I use an RCF system with Art-910’s and a Yamaha DXS18XLF center filled sub. I put the Stereo Combinator on my mainout and added +2 db to the lows (30 to 100) which the crossover is set to 100Hrz and then add 1.5 db to the mid highs and add 1 db to the highs. It literally has taken our sound to another level. I’ve used this now with 4 different bands I mix and everyone of the bands say their crowds are saying it’s the best they’ve ever heard them. I’ll take that!

Thanks for the great comparison, Steve! But wouldn't your Null test be fairer if instead of comparing acoustic signals saturated by the room, you compared the pure line signal from the outputs from the consoles?

Hey Steve great video, def got my thumbs up and a Sub. One thing I haven’t quite sussed out is can this be an 18 in/8(+)out interface, and if it is fully class compliment (work natively on iPadOS ). I have the smaller XR12 and its great unit but, doesn’t work as an interface, so considering upgrading. However I need at least 3 pair stereo out (on USB), within iOS DAW, presuming this will do this (+ more by look of it if has 18 out).

Hi Steve. Question about the mr18. You mentioned in the video your using a Mac. I’m thinking about buying the MR 18 to downsize my set up. the budget tight so I was hoping to use my Mac. Can you tell me how that works and how you can connect an older Mac got a 2012 MacBook Pro with OS Catalina version 10.15.7 as the budget allows, I’ll pick up a tablet, but I currently don’t own one so I was hoping that I could run the MR18 with this MacBook do you know if that’s possible? Thanks for your videos congratulations on # 100.

I just ordered an XR-18 during the sale, but the MR-18 is so tempting. Thank you for this honest, straightforward comparison.

Well done mate! Thank you for the informed vid! I’m an inexpensive, obscure mic kind of guy…who enjoyed this video, with the clips of the previous “Faceoff” blind test! 🇨🇦✔️👍🏻

Is the MR still available?

Great video bro. I want a behringer xr18. I don’t know why but I do

So do I need to buy recording software + the XR18? If so which ones, do you like?

Although this an old video now I purchased the same keyboard and had a couple of issues, but for me customer service was really good they called me on my phone and this issues were fixed in minutes and it has worked perfectly ever since so I am sorry you had a rough time with it.

Great video!!!

Great video. Thanks for making it

Great video Steve. I have a pretty good stack of Behringer gear, and the reason is price. The difference in these is in the Sample rate is it not? I read the XR only goes to 48Khz and the MR will do up to 192. This is for windows, not sure about mac. That is not a deal breaker for me, but might be for others. Great comparison video, thanks for taking the time.

Where I really notice the difference is in IEMs. When playing live, I often prefer the M32 over the X32 for this very reason. However, when I go out there as an audience member, the difference is subtle depending on the system it’s played on and size of venue.

Love my MR. Probably the best single purchase I have made. Easy to control with Streamdeck. When I first got the MR I was suprised that it did not have hi-z inputs on channels 1, 2. What I found is that I can use any of the inputs for inst. level input. Can you confirm?

am i the only mr18 owner who has a headphone output volume difference between left and right channel ? i have used many different headphones already but the same bug at each

Thank you for contributing to this eternal debate XR/MR, and congratulations on your 100th video🎉

Great comparison between the two! thanks for making it! By the way, there is a Midas product that compete in similarities with the Behringer x32 rack?

I've had the chance to use both the XR18 and the MR18 with the same band, in the same venue, with the same PA system and saved scene. Yes, you can hear the difference between the two. However, that said, I have three XR18 mixers and no MR18 mixers. The silly reason? I don't like the locking inputs on the MR18. I try to find any way to tear down and load out as quickly as possible. The difference isn't enough for me to deal with the locking inputs. Plus, I got a great deal on each XR18 I purchased.

For me, just the extra drive level of the outputs on the MR is worth the extra money. +21dBu output is relatively industry standard. +16dBu isn’t. Speaker processors for live work may need a hotter output level than +16dBu to get them up to full gain. Also, I believe all the connectors on the MR are Neutrik rather than cheap knock offs.

The difference in input gain between the two may be because the MR has 5 dB more output gain. They may have shaved off the gain on the front end to keep them relatively matched on output.

Excellent.

Great video. On a smaller scale, I upgraded from a Focusrite 2i2 to an Apollo Solo, and while the difference wasn't night and day, the Apollo definitely sounded better. If I were setting up a studio, I'd go with the Midas, too. Just my 2 cents.

I'm interested in hybrid mixing. It seems like the XR18 should be able to give me 6 sends to feed outboard gear and then allow me 18 inputs for returns. Have you tried this? I can't seem to find anyone talking about that.