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Any chance you have an email I can send you questions at? I just got one of these from an R46 but its missing a motor and wanted to know if you might know where to source one

Type Nine By 2009, the T had two different models of light rail vehicles running in service on Boston’s Green Line-the Type 7 built by Kinki Sharyo of Japan-and the Type 8 built by AnsaldoBreda of Italy-and the T wanted to add the next generation of LRVs to the fleet that was another reliable and well-liked vehicle similar to the T’s experience with the Type 7s from the 1980s and 1990s. The T also wanted to upgrade its aging fleet with reliable, modern and accessible vehicles to continue its fleet modernization efforts. This was to provide a good long-term solution and accommodate a future extension of the Green Line into Somerville and Medford by expanding the 213-car fleet. Request for proposals were issued in mid-2011 for manufacturers who were willing to build the cars. The plan was to purchase 24 new cars. Three companies submitted bids: Siemens Mobility of Germany, Alstom Transportation of France and CAF USA of Spain. Siemens and Alstom both had proposals that were too costly, didn’t prove as good as CAF’s offer and the T went away from their offers. CAF USA had a proposal that was lower than the other two manufacturers and agreed to build the 24 new LRVs for $118.5 million. On December 30, 2013, the T went again with CAF’s proposal and they agreed to build a 70% low-floor, modern and handicapped accessible LRV. On May 15, 2014, MBTA signed the $118.5 million contract with CAF for the 24 LRVs. These cars would later be known as the Type 9. On March 31, 2017, a mock-up of the car was delivered to MBTA and stored inside the Riverside Carhouse for MBTA officials to review and inspect it, then give their feedback to CAF, if it proved successful and T officials liked the design, then full production of the order could commence. At the time, the first car was scheduled to arrive in September 2017 and enter service in the spring of 2018, with all 24 in service by the end of the year. The first Type 9 car, #3900, was delivered to Riverside on March 12, 2018. Revenue service began with #3900 on December 21, 2018 and all 24 in service by the fall of 2019, however, deliveries and acceptances were both still ongoing as of December 2019. The final LRVs were delivered by February 2021 and had entered service by July’s end. The design is a double articulated car with 3 sections that can articulate and bend for the flex and the turning. It has a low-floor section in the middle of the car with no steps required to get on and off, which is better for elderly people handicapped or in wheelchairs. A ramp pops out when the operator presses a button allows for easier boarding and disembarking for people of all ages and disabilities. The wheels are covered up by steel plates (meaning they cannot be seen) and wheel absorbers grab onto the wheels to reduce the screeching sounds that emit from the train’s metal wheels when they forcefully rub the center of the rail head on the metal rails. The cars have a modernized exterior and paint scheme, with the interior all white and yellow poles with hand straps for people to hold on to. The big straight glass window at the front improves the sight and vision of the driver when looking out the window. The latest safety technology such as an Automatic Train Protection System onboard prevents derailments and head-on collisions. Accessibility improvements include bridge plates at doors for safer, easier and faster exiting and boarding and single-leaf door mechanisms allow for faster passenger flow and decrease the time trains sit at stations. The new cars also ditch those traditional folding doors with modern and easier to open/close sliding doors. Modern amenities include closed-circuit security cameras equipped inside each car for increased safeness among drivers and passengers and non-slip floors so people feel safer when walking inside and not slip/fall and seriously hurt themselves or even worse, break a bone or get injured. Clear and crisp announcements that are easy to hear are good especially for the deaf folks. The high-pitched Siri-like voice is the announcements on the Type 9s and the ding-dong tone that sounds before the driver tells the next stop on the intercom with speakers on the bottom of the destination block sign inside sound similar to the announcement tone on the Blue Line’s 0700 series cars made by Siemens. Bright LED signage with big orange lettering and the destination which displays the route letter so passengers can see where the train is headed. The new cars didn’t replace any of the exiting fleet and the T needed all three of them to run on the 2022-opened Green Line Extension to add just enough headways to run service on the extension. The cars are fully compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). They are numbered 3900 to 3923 and all 24 are in service. Type 9s cannot train line with 7s or 8s and instead have to train line with cars of their own group. The T started running two-car trains of Type 9s on August 1, 2019 and started running them on the C branch (Beacon Street line) in October 2019. The cars are very quiet from the inside when transversing extremely sharp turns in the Tremont Street, Central and Boylston Street subways and barely any squeaking can be heard. The first line the cars debuted on was the D branch (Highland Riverside line). The T, thus having enough money and a good amount of funding available, would purchase additional Type 9 vehicles to replace the aging Type 7 fleet, but the T opted out of it and never purchase the additional vehicles, a small fleet of just 24. The Type 9s are a more refined/modernized version of the Type 8s. They basically took the Type 8s and said, “how can we modernize this” and they did just that, they gave it a new exterior body design along with a new exterior paint scheme design. The interior design is a lot nicer, it feels a lot more spacious, but I think that’s because of the way they laid it out. It’s a lot more space-efficient. The all-white walls make the car very well lit inside and it doesn’t seem so dull, plus the lighting is LED and it’s brighter and more energy-efficient than dimmer non-energy-efficient fluorescent lighting. I’d also say that the Type 9s with the “plug doors”is a much welcome change than those folio doors, but the “plug doors”look so much cleaner and open/close easier as well as being more efficient than those traditional folding doors.

Type Seven & 7.5 Note the black roll sign on the streetcar-when I took this picture, the MBTA was just beginning to convert all Type 7 and Type 7.5 streetcars to be compatible with the then-new Type 8 streetcars. Today, all Type 7s and Type 7.5s have been outfitted with digital LED destination signs like those on the Type 8s and run in trains with them regularly. By the early 1980s, with the Boeing LRVs proving to be very unreliable and the PCCs still in service and in dire need of restoration, the MBTA was in dire need of new, reliable streetcars. After its less-than-ideal experience with the Boeing LRVs, the MBTA decided that with its next streetcar, it would start from scratch and design a streetcar that would best serve its needs and not repeat the problems found with the Boeing LRVs. The MBTA stated in the early 1980s, that: “We got to get ourselves some new and reliable streetcars, because these Boeing LRVs are not doing well and our PCC streetcar fleet, half of it is dying still, we need to either fix up the PCCs or do something with the Boeings and we’re like no, we’re not going to do that, so we will create a brand-new trolley to replace the remaining PCCs which are 40+ years old and the unreliable and troublesome Boeing-Vertol cars.” The MBTA came up with a design and commissioned Japanese engineering firm Kink-Sharyo to build a new LRV for Boston. A total of 100 new cars, numbered 3600-3699, were ordered from Kinki, beginning in 1983, with the first of 100 arriving in Boston in late 1985 and ending in early 1989. The new design quickly won favor in Boston, as it was wide and roomy not to mention that its design evoked the PCCs, which by now had reliably served Boston for +- forty years. Pair of Type 7 LRVs at Packards Corner in Allston on the B Branch of the Green Line, painted in their original green-and-white paint scheme. Note that the front end closely resembles a PCC; also note accordion articulation at the center of the cars. Like Boston’s PCC’s, the Type 7s have since proven to be very reliable assets for Boston. The cars are very dependable and are much better built than Boeing’s LRVs-the cars shown above were pictured in 2003, 16 years after their delivery to Boston and still appear strong and solidly constructed without having received any major rebuild. In particular, the cars’ articulation is much better built then that of the Boeing LRVs and accordingly Type 7s have had almost no major derailments (not caused by operator error), allowing them to be used on lines, such as the E Branch of the Green Line, with sharp, street-running curves. Accordingly, the MBTA has been very pleased with Kinki’s work on the Type 7s, opting to order 20 more in 1995 (Type 7.5s) despite the design being ten years old and for increased ridership demands. The cars went into service on April 1, 1997 and are officially known as the “seven and a half cars”. Likewise, in the late 2000s, when the cars were reaching their twentieth year in service, the MBTA opted to install digital display signs, electronic stop announcements, new couplers and new wheels in all Type 7s to make Type 7s mechanically compatible with the MBTA’s then-new Type 8 streetcars. Their solid center articulation and streamlined design make them a more suitable and good option for Boston and with their strong reliability, was a good choice to not repeat the problems experienced with the Boeing stock. The streetcar design was created with portions of the designs being borrowed from the Boeing LRVs, PCCs and the CLRVs. They have articulation and pantographs like the Boeings and foot-pedal controls like the PCCs. Development of the Type 7 model LRV began in 1983. The unsuccessful and too costly Type 6 prototype made of wood beginning in the late 1960s, had some of its design borrowed for the Type 7. The resulting car had rounded rather than flat ends. The windshield wiper motor placement was mounted above the windshield like the pre and post-war PCCs. They were air-conditioned and had the traditional folding doors. Final assembly was made in Boston to meet federal “Buy America” regulations. They entered service without fanfare during the summer of 1986 and have proven over the years to be a reliable, well-loved vehicle. In 2006, as part of a legal settlement, the T said there had to be at least one newer low-floor accessible streetcar in each Green Line trainset for ADA handicapped accessibility, with no trains consisting only of Type 7 cars. Two years earlier, the T began tethering the Type 7s and Type 8s together to train line together in a trainset in regular service. One Type 7 was connected to a Type 8 either leading or trailing them. Starting in 2013, when the cars were around 25 years old, the MBTA contracted with Alstom of Hornell, NY to perform a extensive overhaul of the cars and the main purpose was to look at the cars’ major components most of which have experienced severe corrosion and water damage issues over the past two-and-half decades and restore them back to like-new condition. The France-based locomotive giant outfitted the cars with new braking systems, propulsion systems, climate control systems, HVAC units on the roof, undercarriages and electrical and wiring systems. Workers also fully reconditioned wheel trucks, doors and its mechanisms, couplers, wheels, roof, pantograph equipment and pantographs. The work also included preserving the integrity of the vehicle exterior frame, shell and roof which suffered the most corrosion and water damage. The cars also received a brand new paint job with a full-width green stripe representing the Emerald Necklace of which the Green Line goes through in the heart of downtown Boston. Workers installed the latest windshield wiper safety equipment and reconditioned windshield wipers and head lights. New glass windows and window rims were also installed. The center articulated section was also replaced with the accordion-like fabric also being replaced as it looked more thicker and in new-condition. New black flooring was installed replacing the original reddish-brown color floors that the cars were delivered with. Bright LED lighting was installed and the cars also received completely new interiors. The latest safety technology was installed. The pilot car for the program, #3605, left in October 2013 and was returned to MBTA in December 2015. The 1980s vehicles were rebuilt between 2015 and 2021 and the 1997 vehicles between 2017 and 2020. The cars’ original side roll signs inside were patched over and a Green Line map was put there. The 7’s after their overhaul, are still as reliable as they were proving to be prior to their overhaul over the past 25 years and became the backbone of the fleet moving people into and out of the city of Boston alongside the newer Breda cars. They have phenomenal reliability and on-time performance, great acceleration and braking. The cars look much better and officials said they run better also from experience of people from the T driving the cars. The ride is much quieter and smoother than it was before rebuild. The 7’s have a fabulous exterior and interior design and I just love them to death. I love the Type 7s, they are amazing, they are literally the best of both worlds. They’re my favorite light rail trolleys in Boston. Kinki did an awesome job with the Type 7s and thought of a fabulous design for them, it takes the design cues of both the Boeing LRV and the PCC and mashes it into one. I like the curviness and the sufisticated flat edges that they have. The walnut wood paneling on the 3600s and the cherry wood paneling on the 3700s and that’s a great touch seen inside. The beige plastic for the doors and the walls I like and the dark oak wood paneling for the front cab ends and other portions and the seat dividers too. The two different wood panelings in the cars offer a bit of a unique appearance inside which was like that in the original Type 7 before they got overhauled. The seats are so damn comfortable. The ride is smooth and comfortable and the performance is awesome. This excluded the Boylston curve, from any ranking on the Green Line, because that’s a specific portion of the line, not relating to the cars at all. They also have good braking and good acceleration, given that they’re pretty new, given that they were just recently overhauled.

3839 built and delivered in January 2007 and accepted in April 2007.

Cool train, wall is not subway train It's a different train.

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Lol

How do you get it

Nice haul.

3200s were the last to have rollsigns, and on those they’ve since replaced the rollsigns with yellow LED displays on the inside and color LEDs on the outside

Would you like to do a trade? I have a rollsign with the skokie swift on it + the brown orange red purple and yellow (which is skokie swift), its more recent and rare. I also am soon getting a sign with the pink line on it + the blue green red and pink. I'd love to trade one of those for this sign

Update for smallflame85: As of July 17th, 2024, the very last pair of the old MBTA Orange Line trains (01280 & 01281), they were hauled away from Wellington yard (Medford), and sent to the Wareham St. area of Middleborough (AKA Middleboro), scrapped by Costello Dismantling. I'm glad that you managed to save the rollsign from the retired trains (Hawker Siddeley 01200 series). P.S. Start reaching out to Costello Dismantling, and reason with them about not scrapping every single MBTA Red Line train that gets retired. The headquarters is at the Cranberry Hwy. area of West Wareham.

Lol

What was everyone else doing?

I use to do this line now on the green

welcome to Taiwan！

Cool

Nice! Huh, made in Yonkers?

Cool!

這一台是區間車

Name a price, I’d love to add this to my collection as this sign is super rare and I’d be happy to take it off ur hands with payment

Cool

Peepee😊

These signs were in service on the 2200s, 2400s, and 2600s. The 3200s had a different variant of rollsign, which there were 3 different variations of rollsigns used at this time. These signs were phased out when the pink line began service in 2006. These signs were manufactured from 1995 to 2005.

What day was it for filming?

Rare orange 2 train! 1:49

The 7000’s have 6 car trains now!

When do you plan on selling

Looks like all of the windows have been removed

I got the orange line one!

I collect buses too. That's a rare one to find. I subbed.

Let me know when ur willing to sell, I’d be glad to take it off ur hands

Would have been interesting to see what an IRT roll sign designed in this way might have looked like. Especially the descriptions of the routes (i.e. '1 Broadway Local' or '2 Seventh Av Express').

Original roll signs for PA-1's and PA-2's with that font had 'HUD. TERM' instead of 'WTC'. On the sides, originally read 'NWK', 'JSQ', 'HOB', '33' and 'HT'.

Also, a shame the TA didn't do something similar with the IRT routes (with accompanying colors for 1 [orange], 2 [red], 3 [turquoise], 4 [magenta], 5 [black], 6 [yellow], 7 [orange], 8 [turquoise], SS [green] and S).

Who made that sign, Trans-Lite? (Apparently, yes.) I know Transign used their own fonts for their roll signs in this vein.

That exact train is worth $285

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Readability +100

It's not the MTA train

As a B passenger, that stop at 0:41 that they get turned back at is Babcock Street.

Great video looks good

the "standard" font is akzidenz-grotesk

this is a bit insane lol

How you get that come from

Curious what else you can put in those GOH end sign boxes lol

Nice Me and #LIRRFAN426 have announcements of the JFK express train