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Your video presents a highly negative perspective on artillery in "World of Tanks," but it's important to consider its purpose within the game's mechanics. Artillery plays a crucial role in preventing players from camping and encourages more dynamic, strategic gameplay. While many artillery units only fire every 30 seconds or so, players like myself understand and accept this limitation, knowing it’s a trade-off for the unique support we provide to our teams. I’ve also been in many games without artillery where I felt its presence could have improved balance and made the gameplay more engaging. Additionally, lower-tier artillery lacks advanced skills and generally has a smaller impact on the overall outcome of a match than you're suggesting. It seems your frustration stems from encountering a skilled artillery player who effectively countered you. Rather than an issue with the mechanics, this feels more like dissatisfaction with how a particular match played out. Your entire video could benefit from a more balanced understanding of how artillery is integrated into the game’s design.

Have every 3rd shot soft spot them for opposing artillery until they relocate. Ping the map with their exact position every time they fire to draw attention. They get 3 shots before they have to haul ass or remain lit for hostile artillery, this forces them out of whatever fire lane they had giving the guy they were staring at time to breathe. But this also means they can constantly pester each other taking heat off of normal tanks. Hot take. Buff arty HP pools to be just over a full HE pen as bonus incentive for arty to counter each other. Wave an extra thousand HP in front of them with no armor and questionable mobility. They will shoot at it.

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QQ more look they are in the game they are PART of the Game Get used it Ger over it Work the problem Stop sitting on your arse bitching when you can clearly NOT be the moron sitting out in the open and or MOVE.. not hard you have a W key and NO I am NOT a arty player but I have a Friend who is and he is MISSING a FUCKING ARM from his time in the Servce and he CANNOT play any other Tank Class also yes there is PREM Arty its T3 and its British and you can get it from the Xmas loot Boxs muppit all I got from this Video is you Bitching nothing more, Add something of worth and also there was NO Counter barry Rader in ww2 Rader was used mostly for Air Defence ( again shows you have done FUCK all for research ) and further more 99% of the fucking Clips you show your Shotting at the WRONG targets Arty Players do Not Listen to this twat you play your games how you want its YOUR game not HIS, this fool who is Crying so hard about a hard Counter proves you are DOING your job keep it up.

Nice mod but it's a shame that a lot of things are marked by default and you have to deselect to not have colored markings all over the screen during battle. I was only concerned with the sight and critical markers

Useful but I have installed colored nicks that really bother me :/.

Great video! Basically in 1.26 update the tanks that were buffed the most were the least accurate, and the least the most accurate. Thats why I think BZ-176, Skoda T56, Bourasque etc. are even stronger. Additionaly game should become more enjoyable to every single player with these perks as higher accuracy = hitting more = less frustration

PSA: After looking into Tomatogg again, and checking arty's marks, I observed that the requirements have now stabilized. When I recorded that section 1.5 weeks ago they had slightly decreased. Now, officially a month out from 1.26, it seems that *arty across the board has basically maintained all of its marks* with almost negligible change from Pre-Update 1.26 to Now. So I can't honestly draw conclusions from incomplete and premature data in the "evidence / Marks" section of this video. I would advise you all to draw their own conclusions after we see more complete data. -- Gabriel

This must be the DUMBEST video ever, battles last 4 minutes!!!!!! stop crying about arties ffs, how much can they do to you?!?! they can bearly get 3 shots out and not to mention that they hit something, if there is ONE actuall good hit is more luck than anything else. If you think arties are OP and broken, try 2 or 3 marking them, see how it goes. You need to do stunn damage wich ppl use insta repair mod and remove the stunn in a micro second and in the process you destroy your wn8 and not to mention 70% of maps are not arty friendly, yeah fantastic.

Interesting, thx

The Perfect Charge skill seems not affecting Arties shell velocity.I tried selecting it and check the shells no changes.

I can put it down to your youth for your lack of understanding of artillery history. The need to move arty hasn't always been the case unless spotted by aircraft or recon behind enemy lines. The introduction of computers, satellites, 'eyes in the sky' now make it possible to find and calculate an arty location. But its relatively new in the history of artillery and the need to shoot and scoot. So now: THANKS!! 🙂 - Didn't know this until you pointed it out, I have now retrained all my arty crews accordingly. Excellent tips. You may be right about arty at lower tiers, but the real issue is experienced plays with well-trained crews 'Seal Clubbing'. An arty with no skill crew isn't accurate and a pain to play. Not that you would know. 🙂 Interestingly tanks were used as arty by the US in the Korean war where tanks drove up earthen ramps so they could lob shells over the mountains. Seems to me you want a game that is purely tank on tank which would suit your play style.

"Arty is the reason new player are turned off" ... good joke! A new player is more turned off by seal clubber in tier 1 to 3. As soon as you get to tier 4 you get mostly tier 6 games - which continues through the game. If a new player grinds the tech tree he/she does not have enough free XP for the modules so this poor player is just meat for all the premium tanks. Talking about frustration for new player, I think arty is by far not the most important.

light tanks? artillery? arty needing help of a light tank to shoot? 🤔

Sir you forgot about the most garbage clicking arty the fv304.

think they need to refine these perks and remove some for different classes and give them some unique ones for their tank type.

thats why artillery is unfair and broken, uniteractive punishes you for being spotted has zero counterplay and is mostly map dependant

why is your mouse sensitivity so high tho?

I also have the idea that artillery is shooting more special HE shells and possibly also more AP and HEAT shells due to the increased accuracy. This would also mean that MOE requirements would probably drop due to getting less stun assist and more raw damage. Regarding the crew skills these are asymetric for tanks vs artillery. The new crew skills made all the vehicles more effective, there are more usefull skills and they are more effective. For tanks against tanks this is ok since you got more effective but you opponent also got more effective however since tank vs artillery is asymetric artillery got way more usefull fighting tanks. Radio detection got effectively nerfed and was already situational and that is the only skill besides maybe the VR skills which affects the gameplay of a tank vs artillery while artillery got way more usefull fighting tanks.

newbie is also allow to play arty... it is those seal clubbers is the problem

This video highlights an important issue, thanks! It's time to spread the word!

Arta should have never been reworked. Arta was perfectly fine dealing 2k damage to campers once every 1000 hits. The old arta wasn't accurate like it is today. You could block and bounce the shells. Everything about arta was better before that update.

Like why so much hate against arty players :D don't ever understand crybabies about arties

Post the patch I feel like I actually have a large influence in the outcome of the game as arty now. I also felt like I have more ability to focus out key players with High WN8 on the enemy team as well, which I couldn’t do as consistently before. I play arty a lot I respect your sentiment and wanted to confirm your thoughts from an arty players perspective.

Also agreed on your position on arty in general. A match of WoT can perfectly run without arty. But a match with 30 arty players would be a clown show and completely missing the point of WoT basic game play.

I fully agree. The perk is based on ordinary tanks which usually move during a match. The intrinsic delay of the perk means that it is not supposed to be a constant buff. However, arty is stationary for most of the game, maybe 90% of the match, much more than ordinary tanks. For arty this perk is practically a constant buff, because its condition (being stationary) is the norm. Clear fail of the development which prove once again that they dont play the game.

Oh no Anyway......

remove cvs entirely and just make it as a class bonus for lights

Actually arty missions are very hard compared to others. It took me 4 days to complete td-15 but i needed 25/26 days to complete arty-15🥵. So I think if WOT wants to keep this branch in the game then it should also get buff in a fair amount🙂.

Artillery is unfair and broken.

While I do agree with most of what was said in this video, the evidence section was full of incredibly lackluster arguments. The only evidence that's presented suggests that arty has gotten worse across the board and you brush that off by overly focusing on the buff to the large medkit. Why do you think a linear relation (33% less cooldown -> 33% less stun assist) is a valid assumption to make? Does it reflect in the stats? If that's the case then certainly t5 arty that does not rely on stunning is not affected at all by this "massive nerf" and as such their moe stats would have skyrocketed? Looking at the lefh this is simply not the case. Why even talk about evidence if the data contradicts your statements and your analysis of it is fundamentally flawed and shallow at best? Also, I do not understand what that perk argument was about. The whole point of the perk rework according to wg was that you were supposed to make build choices. And you want to fix the fact that arty does not by... railroading EVERY class into perks and removing choices? Doesn't sound like a compelling solution to me tbh. Again I generally agree with the video but parts of it were badly argued and seemed more like whining thinly disguised as arguments.

that’s crazyyy… but have you tried war thunder?

Counter battery is so rare, ive only been in few games where arty actually kills arty on first couple minutes of battle

Thanks for the heads up, I should log in and try out the new perks on my 155-58 and 261

Meh, it's not really a big deal. I've been playing a lot of arty lately trying to get the last SPG missions done and I don't notice any major difference. Arty is still crap, no idea how anyone can enjoy playing it. When you have horrible accuracy being 2 or 3% less horrible doesn't mean much. The Lehf is also super over rated, about the only thing that needs nerfing on it is it's VR. Of course I don't play anything below tier 6 so it could be worse in low tier games vs really bad players but in the vast majority of games I see them in they usually don't do that well. There was no counter battery radar in the time periods the game represents and they couldn't make CB too much easier without giving them room to maneuver since on may maps there's often very few places they can go without immediately being spotted or where they have any useful firing lines. What they do need to do is bring back the splash damage radius. CB now is almost useless, it takes you out of the game for long periods of time when you could be more effective shooting at things you can see and are far more of a threat. I do a fair bit of CB and I often see after the game I stunned the enemy SPG's or maybe did a little bit of damage but without a direct hit you're not going to kill them 90% of the time and unless they are really bad players one that happens then then know to keep moving.

Well there is an easy solution. Just remove artillery. That would make the vast majority of players happier. Arty mains could get compensated with credits, free xp, some tissues for their tears, and a free visit to mysterious places called "outside" and "shower".

Concentration is the worst perk. I expected that to be like 10% going from 1% to 10% in like 3 seconds.

Realism and World of tanks? Excuse you? Those two things don't go together.

Man, there is no way you could really tell a difference, you just find this buff as a reason to cry on arties XD

The terrible thing about all the updates is they never look at the terrible unbalanced MM. When will they look at the main part of the game. WG are terrible.

I play some artillery and enjoy it. But i agree. Arta was good before this and it should be one arta per game and remove leffe and arta-mission!

Wow, comments are hard to make on a game with bang bang things in them. My first attempt at writing this got memory holed. The counter to arty is reporting their position as best you can. We love to take each other out.

I took a 3 year break from the game I loved playing arty because my ping is pretty high since coming back a few weeks ago my Lef which I used to hit most shots with can barely hit jack s**t now and if it does its doing half the damage it used too do (gonna have to check out these new perks ect)

I didn't have a problem getting direct hits before the update and don't really notice much difference since it happened.

I am a little bored of the anti arty argument. You bemoan not being able to 'counter' arty but ignore the map changes which enable you to neutralise them. Suggesting the changes provide a buff is somewhat disingenuous too. If everyone can take advantage of the same perk, then it's a buff for all, which is effectively no buff at all. The game just got quicker! The issues in low tiers are not really due to Arty. Seal clubbers are the main culprits. That and WGs obsession with having games last no more than 5 minutes.....

all these whiny whiners crying about SPGs nowdays like have you even played WoT when artys could oneshot tier 10 Tanks? This Class has a good reason to be in the game. For example to stop the campers or to open chances for the allies to breakthrough. Yes it sucks. Yes it sucks hard many times and the Devs need to nerf it at some aspects. For example removing any SPGs under Tier 7 or put a limit to 1 SPG per Team but is has the right to exist. Removing that fking tier 5 Arty for a Compansation Tank or Gold would be a Huge step but it will take time. No matter how much people cry about it

Interesting. Thx