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Doesn’t David give orders of revenge to his son as his last act?

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This is the most wonderful video I have watched in a long time. What a great gift of a conversation!

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“More honorable than the cherubim, and more glorious beyond compare than the Seraphim...”

Great interview!

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Enorme Matthieu....El y Su Hermano Me Han "Enseñado Un Mogollón de Cosas". Las Cuales Traduzco al Catolicismo.

I thought this would be in spanish? Not even spanish subtitles? I guess I won't be able to share with my parents 😢

Wonderful. Ive always found the Balaam story intruiging in some intuitive way

Just realized that Santa is a good witch. Witches fly and cover the world with bad stumbling stones (dust, exceptions). Santa flies and covers the world with good stumbling stones (gifts). Ho, ho, ho

What a GREAT conversation, I learned so much it will take me time to even suspect how much I learned. Thank you both so much. Enjoyed meeting you at Symbolic World Summit, Sebastian, keep up the great work! So glad for the second half of this conversation too, putting them together was a great choice. Looking forward to more of these types of conversations.

The great thing about this whole "symbolic thing" is you can just make shit up and people will eat it up. Of course this guy is not a bible scholar and not a scholar in the ANE.

As far as the grinch example. The fact that it’s a little girls trying to integrate the grinch prematurely also kinda represents let’s say the immature women trying to make the fringe the center or not knowing how or when to bring forth the margin

On his death bed, doesn't David instruct Solomon to settle some scores for him?

1:41:34 as soon as he said antichrist the snow fell down 😱

Awesome work

So then discernment, as used by Solomon, is that which turns the flaming cherub/chereb (hybrid/sword) into a mirror (symbolized by water)? Since in the story, the baby that the woman gives through the sword is instead given back to her, and the death the other woman gives through the sword is instead given back to her. Or is this less a transmutation of elements, so to speak, and more of an emphasis on the "turning against itself" aspect of the sword in particular? Or are those types of aspect shifts and transmutation the same thing (per the whole perspective-magic link)? Regardless, what is the significance of fire and water both being aspects of one thing in the sword? I get what the individual aspects mean, but about the very fact of their union?

Love it.

I don't speak Spanish, but commenting here to train TH-cam algorithm to recommend the video whenever Matthieu Pageau gives a new interview

I've thought a lot about these things recently. Some thoughts: 1. Adam doesn't name the fish, but he also doesn't name the things that "creep on the ground." Basically dirt swimmers or dirt dwellers. The serpent is one of those. 2. Adam does name the domestic beasts, the wild beasts, and the birds. That has to do with the ox, lion, eagle, and man tetragrammaton. These are also "covered" animals, either hairy or feathered. The serpent is "subtle" or "naked." Hair and feather has to do with commanding the outer nature. The woman is where the command of the outer "turns on itself" to the inner. Adam must command his own animality (sin is "crouching at the door" like a lion). 3. This idea is directly related to Samson and David. David can grasp the domestic (sheep) and kill the wild (lion, bear, dog) by seizing it "by the mane" or hair. Goliath compares himself to a dog when he fights David, and then David receives a bride (the woman that turns the judgment inward). Samson kills the lion exposing the inner honey (honey is related to wisdom and the brightening of the eyes), but the secret of his outer strength is exposed and turned against him by Delilah (whose name means weakness, the opposite of strength, but also is a play on night and Lilith). Samson's weakness is his lack of self-control. He can't "subdue" his own animality, so he is himself "subdued" by the woman. He is bound by having his hair woven into a piece of fabric. Much more to say about this given Mattieu's insights. Honey or "enlightenment" coming from inside the lion is also related to the only female judge, Deborah, whose name means "little bee," a honey maker. 4. Proverbs uses the woman to personify wisdom and folly, which is basically the idea of the way of life and death, discerning between the sleep of renewal and the sleep of destruction. The relationship between wisdom and woman is very profound. The woman Wisdom cries out for repentance, the "inward turn," the sword that "turns on itself," the mirror of one's own judgment, seeing ones own face so to clean it, the eye seeing itself so to clarify its vision. The staff that can turn into a serpent, we could say. (The serpent is the limit of Adam's judgment that can "turn" on it). Again, much more to say about this. 5. Solomon seems to ultimately fail in this discernment because he builds temples to foreign gods, which is related to taking foreign wives and foreign perspectives. Somehow he allows the eyes on the wheel to drown the central eye or light that creates ordered space. He too is like Samson, in a way. 6. David also exhibits this same weakness with Bathsheba. Uriah the Hittite is the inverse of David, the righteous foreigner, the righteous mercenary. Before David takes Bathsheba, whose bath is likely a cleansing ritual following her period, he asks who her husband is. He tries to "cleanse" her of the foreigner, even though Uriah is more committed to the fighting men of Israel than David is, because David is supposed to be off at war. In taking Bathsheba, he creates a link or "con-fusion" between himself and Uriah (his opposite or inverse), but in such a way that he is cursing himself. He tries to create further confusion to muddy the water and hide his sin by telling Uriah to go sleep with his wife (or euphemistically "cover his feet") so that if Bathsheba got pregnant Uriah would assume the child was his own. But again, Uriah acts more like an Israelite than David and refuses to go to his house while the rest of the army is off fighting. So David has to purge him, or to cleanse Israel of the foreigner, which is the outworking of the logic of his initial act. David was trying to act in a "totalizing" way (the fact that he was on the roof is a marker of arrogance, exalting yourself beyond your proper place to see or know more than you should. So he became Saul, in a sense. And when he sees himself, or "turns on himself," he uncovers himself from the royal garments, becomes naked, exposed the "inner man." And he also sees his death in the death of Bathsheba's child. Solomon is the second child, the child of David's renewal. 7. Solomon judging between the prostitutes is related to David and Saul, because there was confusion in the kingdom as to the rightful king. Samuel initially annoints David in secret. But David does not insist on his ownership of the "child," he cedes the kingdom by going into exile, even though he is its rightful "mother." Thus he avoids cutting it in half. Saul wants to turn it into a competition, for people to "take sides."

I love the optics of the side by side panels when Mattieu does these interviews. Everyone's inside with bookshelves or something. He's out in the cold with trees and the sky.

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Time-line & cross-stitch…

It’s a good morning ❤

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El mundo hispano no esta preparado aun para un mundo visto a traves de lentes simbolicos, espero que eso cambie pronto. Que Dios te guarde.

Divination can be analogized to Bodily sin. Letting the material (what were composed of/body) direct our purpose/meaning/intention - instead of using our Head. Basically an inversion of hierarchy. - can all sin be reduced to disobedience/improper ordering in the hierarchical sense?

It’s kind of frightening how accurate Matthieu is. Does anyone else get a sense of fear and awe at how much these patterns align onto reality?

YES!!! Can't wait to listen to this!

Wonderful............

Thank you to you and whoever else made this possible! I would imagine you would need to understand his book really good in order to translate such simple but complex subjects. This Spanish translation is just what we needed!

always grateful to see Matthieu beaming in from parts unknown.

No one outside of saints I like to listen to more then Matthieu

I randomly saw this today on Amazon and I thought it would be nice to have this book in hardcover format!

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Thank you so much for your work! I appreciate the effort of expanding symbolism to the Spanish-speaking world. I’m from Mexico and am constantly trying to explain what Jonathan and Matthieu are all about to people around me to no avail. This translation will be of so much help, since there is nothing so concise and simple to explain symbolism as Matthieu’s book. Will definitely buy a couple of copies to give as gifts!

Just got home from Liturgy and saw this was up. Today is a good day. :-)

Teeth and weapons seem to be related to seeds.

Heck yes, looking forward to another two hours with mr Matthieu Pageu 😁

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Saludos. Excelente entrevista, gracias. Hay un modelo teórico y geométrico que usa el simbolismo. Me encantará ver la posibilidad de iniciar un diálogo al respecto. Gracias.

La primera vez que leí sobre el ouroboros (serpiente que se muerde la cola) fue en Chesterton, "Ortodoxia", cap. II, si no me equivoco.

Estimado, yo sí cuento con una definición de Derecho Natural.

Tani que? Donde esta eso en la biblia?

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Interesante y valiosa información. Gracias hermano ❤

Excelente trabajo como siempre, gracias por compartir esta gran charla.

Excelente conversación, fino conocimiento