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Awesome man, glad you enjoyed.. I need to tinker with mine… just installed triples today/yesterday actually and the direct drive is hitting the monitors, it’s on my TODO list to get this lower. Thanks for commenting

@@Moore_Podiums nice 👍 I switched also weeks ago to a 38“ tripple setup with the mounted monitor stand and I’ve never thought that it’s so stable and nothing is shaking 🫨 and needs no space like the the stand alone.

Thank you, I would like to analyze some data on how to nail those turns one day. Lots of time left on the table

Hey, nope! Pretty crazy to be honest. It actually felt really unsafe and I always had my FOV set up so I could see all 3 but it was much further back in real life.. really gotta turn the head to see tight side mirror and can barely see much

If I didn’t get into the Porsche and experience it for myself, I wouldn’t have believed it

Of course it all depends from one car to the next, but just like when we drive on public roads in traffic, you do need to turn your head to see your rear view and right side (left in RHD cars) mirror. Further, in a real race car you have two other limiting factors at play: 1) a real helmet limits your FOV just like a VR headset. Depends on helmet design and the shape of your noggin of course, but this means you need to turn your head more to see what you want to see. With a realistic sim display setup (triples or UW), I encourage drivers to turn their head like they naturally would in a real car. Easy to forget about! 2) any driver in a track car with a 6-pt harness SHOULD be wearing a HANS device that will slightly resist and limit neck movement for safety reasons. A driver will still be able to move their head around enough to see all three mirrors, but it’s not as natural as driving on public roads. The panoramic rear view mirror in the real Porsche in this video helps a lot with this! That’s all to say - what is truly realistic may not always be what’s “best” in a sim environment where we can in fact control all these details 😎

Hey, i tried to do the flip as it was recommended by others but the measurements were off with the DD by about .25 inch on each side 🫠 Thank you for watching and commenting

It’s amazing. We were at turn 7 and 3 at Sebring and the amount of dirt on the track really makes a difference. Thank you for watching and commenting!

Hey Aaron, 10 inches! Sorry for the delay, was out of town

Do you have a Moza R16 or R21 wheel base? Thanks for commenting

@@Moore_Podiums fanatec dd, the new cube-shaped one. it was impossible to put the wheel shaft at a reasonable height with the mounting plate right-side-up.

Thank you, thanks for watching

Yeah, it was humbling to see how small the 49” ultra wide compared to the cockpit of the car… going to need some bigger screens to match

@@Moore_Podiums personally i would try moving the screen closer too the wheel. My 34" wide screen ( not ultra wide) is only 8" behind the wheel. and my head is about 29" away from the screen.. still want to upgrade to triple 32 ore 40" Ps: love the setup, hope to get close too something similar some day.

@@f.j.z3213 I have 3 boxes from TrakRacer in my room now so I no longer have to use the integrated monitor stand... stay tuned!

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That’s great to hear, I hope this helps!

Glad you enjoyed it!

That’s awesome man and thank you for the comment!

For the fiberglass seat? Not really.. I would relate any flex to my rubber grommets to absorb the vibration noise from the butt kicker than the seat itself

@Moore_Podiums there was another youtube review on the gt seat where the back of the seat would push out when the operator pushed on the brakes. Just curious if this was an issue for you as well.

@@relaxfoo I did not have that experience, sounds like a cheaper way to get a motion sim 😆

Hey, I’ll be at the shop on Wednesday.. will answer here or you can join us on Wednesday night on @thechicaneclub and I can give you an answer live

@@Moore_Podiums Let's take the measurements live on our live stream tonight at 7:00pm ET 😉

Please be sure to join the Live Stream tonight to get any additional questions answered from Greg at @thechicaneclub

Hey Xavier, the break is curved but around -18% with he gas being flat and at a -10% according to iPhone level

Thank you, Greg's input as a motosport professional and driving coach is invaluable and highly desired. He knows his stuff! glad you enjoyed!

VR is the way for sure although all of this makes for a great video!

Thank you! gotta make sure the paddles are silent when the kids are sleeping!

Personal preference is king, do what works for you

Do what works for you my dude The panoramic mirror? From center of car or seat?

Thank you

Glad you enjoyed, remember there is personal preference that goes into some items so do what works for you!

Do you have an integrated or freestanding monitor stand?

Thank you for the vote of confidence! Chaning the FOV and set up helped for sure

I agree

Glad you liked it 🤘🏼

Triples seem highly attractive all of a sudden

Yes it is custom set, sorry if I didn't make this clear enough. I hope this helped

Glad this gave a different perspective

Thanks for the feedback, we totally agree!

I'll give it a go, thank you!

Glad it was helpful!

Absolutely, thanks for the support!

Haven't tried it..... yet!

@@Moore_Podiums Then you have something to look forward to. 😁 Happy sim racing! 🏎️

@@Moore_Podiumsyou should :) for me it was a game changer and i am driving a gt4 (not clubsport) in real life and did there same excersise to get as close to my seating position at my rig. Great video. Try a pimax crystal light with a good e.g. 4090 graphics card. For me it brought simracing to onother level of emersoion 👍

@ thanks for commenting, glad you get to drive a Porsche daily! There’s a chance I have triples in a box right now, stay tuned!

Because it potatoes your graphics.

That’s a question I don’t know the answer to but it is way more stiff than any regular car I’ve driven

Great question! A few things are at play here in real racecars that necessitate brake pedal forces up to 250 lbs (114kg) vs just a few pounds/kilos of pedal force with streetcars. As anyone who’s driven a modern streetcar can tell you, only a few pounds of force on the brake pedal are required to come to a comfortable stop, thanks to vacuum-assisted brake boosters (or even brake by wire systems in EVs or hybrids). Now as we all know with sim racing, brake pedal control is critical for performance in order to maintain rolling speed midcorner via trail braking. Imagine trying to carefully control your brake release into a corner with a heavily assisted brake pedal like a streetcar, while experiencing nearly 2Gs on your body. This would be like balancing a feather on your toe while riding a roller coaster (wind aside!). So, it is much easier to control a brake pedal without a brake booster being involved in a racecar, and hence is something all racecar drivers are used to. Eliminating the brake booster also reduces vehicle weight and eliminates an unnecessary failure point. In short, streetcars with boosters are built for comfort in gentle stops, while racecars are built for maximum control in threshold braking conditions. All of this is say that getting a good seating position that allows drivers to exert a sufficient and controlled force on the brake pedal is critical in real cars, but still important in sims, depending on your hardware, calibration, and preferences. There’s a few other engineering things at play here, so this is a slightly simplified answer. Check out Carroll Smith’s books for a more detailed dive into this. Thanks for asking!

@@thechicaneclub Wow! Great explanation. Appreciate you taking the time it took to put that together. I figured it was due to mechanical reasons. Simplification and such as you mentioned. Also that a longer brake stroke might be a more accurate, or a linear advantage so to speak. But the thought of the G-Force imbalance would have never crossed my mind. I totally get what you're saying. In straight line forward momentum braking it would really feel odd to have little to no resistance on the brake pedal, as in a daily automobile. On the other hand, and I've never ridden in or driven a real race car, I would imagine it feels nice to be able to transfer some of the g-forces on to the pedal. Thx again!

Thank you

It’s a cliff hanger

Math is not a stregnth of mine

@@Moore_Podiums haha i used Google. You should get a aluminium profile rig and VR.

I would prefer to, yes. However the configuration for the TrakRacer integrated monitor mount does not allow for forward back adjustment, I could adjust my pedals more forward then do the same shift with the direct drive and seat. However we're limited to about 1.5 inches of forward movement left in the DD Mount. Triples might be on the way...stay tuned

Disregard, after moving my speakers it seems like I can adjust the integrated monitor mount about a quarter inch forward before it is fully maxed out. Not much of an improvement TBH

@@Moore_Podiums Nice, thanks for the video:)

Glad it was helpful!

all 3 of these are personal preference IRL

Hey, thank you for taking the time to share this feedback. I can take the measurements of what I prefer and get you those next Wednesday after the Thanksgiving break. For the seat, since the base and back is not adjustable in the TrakRacer GT Seat, setting the base angle will automatically do the back. However if you have a recliner seat, I could see how this would be helpful information. Stay tuned for ~15 days from now to get those to you

Most GT-style bolt-in fixed back seats (like the one in the Porsche here) have a 90-100 degree angle relative to the base of the seat and this is of course not adjustable. The variance is up to different preference and packaging. Racing seats like this have a fixed back angle to for increased safety and to reduce weight. Naturally, a streetcar style reclining seat affords you the option to adjust this angle, so whatever is best for driver comfort and control would be ideal. Like TJ points out, we’ve found that the angle of the base of the seat relative to the floor of the car/ground is between 15-25 degrees in most GT cars, and more reclined in Prototypes and Formula cars. Of course depends on the car and driver shape, size, preference, etc. Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback!

1) +17% according to ye ole iPhone 2) 15 inches from the top of the seat to the middle of the yolk , the floor is not flat so I couldn’t get a straight forward answer for that one

@@Moore_Podiums Thanks for the follow up!

Thank you for commenting and watching! I am glad you enjoyed

It seems as if the DD is about a half inch too wide to fit if I was to flip it

​@Moore_Podiums can you raise the seat and pedals if you can't flip the wheel? The distance from seat to floor is irreverent, as once you are seated and your feet are on the pedal plate, the pedal plate becomes the "floor"

​@@festa289 sadly there is a pivot at the floor of the pedal plate which only allows for me to adjust angle of the pedals and not the actual height. After the video I've still been tweaking the seat and pedals because I could not get it 1:1 and it simply didn't feel right. The short comings of the TR8-Pro as compared to aluminum profile 😥

@Moore_Podiums Is the pedal plate just bolted to 2 pieces of 40x40 profile or similar? You could possibly replace those 2 lengths with 40x80, or 40x120, or 40x160 profile, to add 40mm of height with each step. I'm no stranger to modifying pipe style rigs lol, I had multiple over a decade. I moved to a TR160 a few years back, and was the best decision I ever made. I did still have to modify it a little XD

@@festa289 I'm actually not near my rig for the next week as I'm traveling but I'll look into it. I thought about looking into spacers to raise the height with extended bolts. I wanted to thank you for the long response to the thread, I do appreciate yall!

Agreed, the lack of adjustability of the TR8 is less than most aluminum profile rigs … hindsight Thanks for commenting

@@Moore_Podiums yeah, I too had my fair share of hindsight with this hobby...

​@mementomori4972 can you share any other hindsight moments? I'm planning my rig out and I'm trying to avoid as many "mistakes" as possible

Great question and thank you for taking the time to comment. I am happy with it, it is not as comfortable. I had some bad leg and back pain after a triathlon and this seat would always make the nerve issue flair up. Overall, I’m happy I went with this over the recliner. I got the chance to sit in a Porsche GT4 a few weeks ago that was for the track. The seat felt extremely similar.

No issues thus far! No need for the kill switch… it’s overkill 😅. I only run at 60% of the R16. In high downforce running at 100% good luck to get in a 15 minute race. The r16 does clip though at places like Monza, spa, algarve.. any places that have a hairpin . I do question if the R21 would face the same. New content coming out about the set up of my TR8 Pro and calibrations of Moza pithouse*

SIMAGIC is way better and has alot of great deals on right now.

The fiberglass is less comfortable but more real. If you’re looking for comfort stay with the recliner and change the seat config where possible