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@RJTHEGAME I think it's from the game update. I frame capped it before the update and that helped. This seemed completely broken after the update and my house was gone 😡🤣🤣

@@Spratty-wb3is 😆typical

@@RJTHEGAME I might check that out! I might look into some mods as well! I wanna use all this vram 😂

@cyansius3950 "Femboy" is a good word 😂... Yeah it's crazy toxic now and definitely the worst I've seen. In fact I've not actually seen someone post a new build in the builders group. It's all just memes..

@@Spratty-wb3is Exactly, why would anyone want to when they're belittled for either not knowing something, or belittled because their PC doesn't fit into the usecase that some dumb basement dweller thinks is the only thing that matters? Fanboys are a whole level of dumb, making part (or in somecases all) of you personality based on the brand you like is extremely dumb. I always, since the I started building PCs have built based on price to performance on the basis of budget. Femboy is a good word.

@c523jw7 Honestly I don't mess with anything in control panel. Mines at default settings meaning pretty much everything is application controlled. Meaning your in game settings will override control panel. A lot of stuff in there is outdated and not really to be used..

@Spratty-wb3is I have it off in mine. I'll check the options. Man you need a phd to understand nvidia control panel settings Gsync is a great feature..if we only knew what it exactly does and why it's better than vsync lmao. I can so see this being a mind f#ck if you go to heavy into control panel and customising individual games. On another note that gpu display scaling option in control panel under adjust size and position for screen absolutely reduces my input lag. So many videos have said to have it on display though. Fg felt even better than before now as well with this gpu scaling.

@c523jw7 I'm pretty sure most of those settings are due to be removed. A lot of that stuff is from the days when settings weren't available in game menu's. AMD is the same other than looking a bit fancier. 200 settings and I only use 1 lol. That's anti lag. On Nvidia you don't need that as Reflex is available in pretty much all games and is far better than the old dated version in control panel..

@zockerbude2585 I'm surprised your getting 780mv @ 2530.. That's pretty impressive. I guess it comes down to how much performance your willing to loose to reach the 250w. Kinda at what point did you turn your XTX into an XT if that makes sense. I've seen mine hit 598w in a spike so in not sure it's controllable but have you tried a framerate cap? Maybe just short of what your general frame cap is...

​@@Spratty-wb3is Thanks for your opinion. Yeah, 2530 MHz @ 730 mV is a nice sweet spot as the card only puls around 270 W of power. And is only around 5% slower than stock . So it would be a pretty sweet setting :D. Wow, 598 W! That's gotta be a lot of heat in u'r room :] Good idea with vsync/framerate cap! Already have vsync enabled on all of the games I play but WQHD @170fps is pretty demanding on high graphics settings so the gpu is almost always fully utilized. I still don't understand why AMD has blocked the use of the MorePowerTool for RDNA 3 cards. Would've made things like limiting powerdraw much easier...

I don't think it's intended... I'm pretty sure they had issues with the new design and it needed extra time in the oven. So this will be the fallback option..

@@Spratty-wb3is I dont think Nvidia will nail the multichip gpu in their first go either, at least for gaming.

@DonovanMcNabb5 probably not! And they will inevitably do something scummy. But as I say I judge the product and not the brand attached.. I'm actually looking forward to battlemage more than anything else at this moment..

@@Spratty-wb3is that's funny because i'm hoping the encoders for battlemage are next level. It might be a generation where having a intel card for a second gpu for obs is a must.

@DonovanMcNabb5 Yeah I built my wife a work from home PC that's gathering dust. It had a 4070 in it but my daughter now has that so I'm hopeful of grabbing a battlemage for it and using it as an editing pc..

Na, only game I modded was Witcher 3. That at the time was pretty much hard work trying to figure that out..😂

@@c523jw7 Drowning in 13-14th gen voltage issues! 🤣

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@Spr1ggan87 I completely agree!

@@timothysullivan-pm3sl I completely forgot you said it was crashing!... It's weird I had no problems to begin at 4k, non at 1440p, but going back to 4k it didn't like it..

@@Spratty-wb3is yep I actually booted into the game a couple times. But the last 3 times I tried it started crashing on the shader comp again there is something weird going on during the shader comp lol

intel or ryzen?

@TerraWare I'm sure you'd figure it out in the time it takes me to type it 😂.. But whilst your here lol.. UE5 cpu usage being dangerous! , what do you think?

Other than caching shaders and Once Human I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with UE5 cpu usage. Now I know some UE5 games shader caching processes have led to Intel cpu crashes but I dont think it's the fault of the engine since other shader compilation processes will often use 100% of the CPU. The CPU should be able to run at 100% consistently as long as it has adequate cooling of course.

​@@TerraWare I've seen some are 120fps capped so they don't have such issue. I dunno 100% utilisation seems like a bit of an unnecessary stress test to me. Especially as it mixes with gpu thermals.. I know most people don't judge thermals on an R23 multicore load as it's an unrealistic scenario for a gaming pc. Until you run a shader cache or take a heli ride in Greyzone lol...

Going back to my question I'll say don't waste your time trying to reason with fanboys. Its a waste of energy. It's impossible, to reason with disingenuous unreasonable people. Thankfully I don't get many on my channel and for the most part my comments section reflects my content, enthusiasts discussing the topics. I've been called an AMD fanboy and Nvidia depending on the topic and results of my video but it doesn't happen much. It's rare and I just ignore it. I find people emotionally attaching themselves to these brands like activists to a cause to be very stupid and pointless haha. It's not that serious but people will happily base their entire identity around it.

@@TerraWare Dude I know! I should detach myself from it and I'm taking steps to do it.... I mean damn for a Nvidia fanboy I post a lot of 7900xtx content right 🤣..

@JamesGibson-fg5lj if your just wanting to undervolt I'd suggest leaving the minimum at 500 and lower the maximum. If you want to overclock you need to raise the minimum..

@@Spratty-wb3is thanks and do you think 1120 mV will be stable

@@JamesGibson-fg5lj 1120? On XTX.. I think they are 1150 stock right? You can go lower than that and be stable. I ran 1060 with no issues but every gpu is different..

@@Spratty-wb3is whats the difference of going lower is it better the lower it is

@@JamesGibson-fg5lj are you running undervolt to reduce temps and power draw?. If so yeah the lower you go the less power you will draw. You just need to balance you max clock speeds with it. If your targeting 350w and go 1060mv to achieve that you need to lower your max clock to achieve 1060 if that makes sense. So if you wanted 1060 and it crashes at 2500mhz you'd have to drop to 2400mhz and try again. Or stick at 2500mhz and raise voltage to 1075.. Just a balancing act.

Really? 😂

@@Spratty-wb3is riding the walls and crashing into people at high speeds with no damage is not simulation.

@DonovanMcNabb5 it's got full damage 😂... That's the first time in 30 attempts I've finished a 20min race with all 4 wheels left on the car..

@@Spratty-wb3is I havent played competizione, i cant remember if the other had damage, but i like when the axle gets messed up and you basically cant drive it.

@DonovanMcNabb5 that's what this does!.. It doesn't take much to end your race .. If its cosmetic you can fix some of it in the pits at a big time cost. If its more than that and your driving in a circle your race is pretty much done!

@user-oy2lr2cr2i I noticed an update downloading last night but I've yet to try it out! I'll check it out today and see if I can figure something out... What resolution you running?

Yeah I'll give I racing a go at some point. I've got a bit of a wireless Internet black spot where my sim rig is so for the moment I'm trying to avoid online racing .. Thanks, I'll check out a FOV calculator, I've not even thought about it 😅

@c523jw7 I'll check whilst I'm not recording.. I think quality upscale and phsyco was in 50's and frame gen took it too around 80 and felt really good. No overclock..

@Spratty-wb3is thanks dude. This was doing my head in clearly lmao. Wondering if ddr5 ram is making a difference here. Surely it would all add up. Better cpu and ram has got to give some boost.

@c523jw7 I'm mid 50s fully maxed with rt pshyco in that area

@Spratty-wb3is ok so I go high fortie to early 50s and mid. So I'm less but somewhat close.

@c523jw7 yeah your not far off.. Frame gen works really well in this situation to around 80? Actually feels close to 80 as well.. Definitely feels better than 60.

@c523jw7 If all your getting is a slightly softer image then absolutely. I'm pretty sure when I checked performance last time I started to see a loss of detail though and some artifacts. Nothing bad but definitely noticed something. I'll run it in the daytime today and try and check it out a bit better..

@c523jw7 GPU or Display scaling ? Dude I don't even know what that is 😬😅

@Spratty-wb3is it's in nviida control panel under aspect ratio. Wondering if changing it you will notice it. I wonder if people who really feel the input lag have got the settings for their pc wrong. I'll be honest the input lag feels less on gpu noticeably for me. Evetyhing just feels lighter.

@@c523jw7 mines default set to display! I wonder if there's a difference between TV and monitor?

@timothysullivan-pm3sl if they are aggressive with the 8800xt it should sell well

@@Spratty-wb3is I really think so too. It will make things suuppeeerrrr interesting

7900XTX is a f. junk

@freak777power I mean it's definitely not what I'm looking for lol I like the bells and whistles but if you just care about good raster performance then it's kind of beast

It's a pretty good value but the 4080 is markedly better at ray tracing stuff if you care about that.

@@squirrelsinjacket1804 exactly which is why I went with nvidia I do like all that stuff lol but I ended up going with the 4070 Ti Super and I've actually been able to put a pretty decent overclock on it and it's a beast! Lol…. I'm just saying from what I've seen the 7900xtx is a great card when it comes to rester performance. I do think they should have dropped the price on it more though. I expect any card that's 600 bucks and up to be able to use raybtracing lol

I suffer motion sickness pretty bad! I really want to try it but I'm pretty sure I know already what will happen 😢😂

I suffer motion sickness pretty bad! I really want to try it but I'm pretty sure I know already what will happen 😢😂

@@Spratty-wb3is LOL yea the tech isn't affordable yet, and we just got 4k/240hz so it might be getting close. If they can just make the headset with the proper lens, no battery, no expensive processor and just make it affordable...

In europe NVIDIA prices are usually 200-300€ more. And i just checked the prices there and they are the same for the equivalent versions. I don't know where you saw they are higher.

@@gomesiano here in the usa the 7900xtx is about the same price as the 4080super ($1100-$1200 depending on model) but even the Taichi/Nitro/Tuf/RedDevil should really be about be maxed priced around $850-$900. That's what I'm trying to say. 24gb and raster is great but it's not enough for the regular person to buy it at 4080super prices. Game capture is a little sharper on Nvidia, dlss is coming to every big game, better power draw (untuned), easier out of box experience, etc, etc... Nvidia has big flaws but the normal user don't recognize them. I'm an AMD user but having both 4080/7900xtx I know the 7900xtx should be priced a lot lower.

@OniiXGaming Dude I can't believe it's taken this long to get FFB in a flightstick 😂

@@laracroft8553 Which 32" 4k did you go for?

@@Spratty-wb3is The new QD-oled AW3225qf 240 hz has a slight curve which I like over the flat versions of the panel, but it seems well built and beautiful picture.

@laracroft8553 I'm torn between that and the MSI. After using the 34" Ultrawide I did get used to that curve, which I wasn't sure about with to start. Now flat seems strange 😅..

@c523jw7 if I remember it's pretty close. The XTX without RT I'm pretty sure has a decent lead in this game. RT they end up pretty even I think. You wanna play it RT though. I turned it off and I found it does make quite a bit of difference..

Quality rt and maxxed without fg its not 60 on 4080..in 50s. Fg your good. A game that would look good in ultra wide and put it to 60. This game was one where dlss performance at 4k looked better than fsr quality to me. Interesting to hear fsr balanced looks good to you here.​@@Spratty-wb3is

​@@Spratty-wb3isalso a res like 3840 x 1080p has more pixels than 2560x 1440p. Is this 3k?? It has double the pixels of trad 1080p. So calling it 1080p is misleading. Iv also noticed the amount of pixels above the 1440p range is alot and it still looks incredibly good. Digital foundry talk about 8k being pointless and you dont notice it much from 4k. Diminishing returns. I wonder if theres a bit of that going on? Wonder if you feel so underwhlemed about ultra wide becuase your going to a 27 inch 4k after 34 inch ultrawise..got to be it.

@c523jw7 what dlss preset is 50s? FSR balanced was dropping into 50s. But yeah it actually looked pretty damn good. Was a bit of ghosting if you had fine detail objects behind the character but no real stand out shimmer and it didn't look low res like cyberpunk did. I was pretty surprised!

@c523jw7 3840x1080p is still 1080p but stretched like ultrawide. Resolution runs in the vertical. If it ends 1080p it's 1080p. 1440p. 2160 etc. An ultrawide has more pixels compared to 16:9 to fill the extra length of the screen. It'll have more pixels. But the density will remain the same.

@debiandreb5210 admittedly I've not tried DRS. Did it look OK? That should give you a decent performance bump..

@@Spratty-wb3is yes, for me at 55" 4k tv it looks nice

@@c523jw7 absolutely 😅

@timothysullivan-pm3sl I'd love to help dude but I've not live streamed anything myself. I'd have to look into it. All I've done so far is capture and upload.

@@Spratty-wb3is its all good buddy.…oddly their is just not any good videos on how to do it its driving me crazy lmao or at least I have not found one yet

@timothysullivan-pm3sl Dude everything I try to watch on content creation I find a nightmare. I'm pretty much going trial and error 🤣

@@Spratty-wb3is lmao

@@timothysullivan-pm3sl It's such a good game! I really need to get some hours back into it..

Blood & wine although I haven't got to it is one of the best DLCs of all time! I do remember trying out XESS and FSR on this game and was really pleased with FSR

@@RJTHEGAME its amazing man I enjoyed it just as much or even more then the main story line lol

@@timothysullivan-pm3sl Yeah it's class I really got hooked into the Witcher

@@OniiXGaming I'll check that out! I think I'll have to go XLR... 32" 16:9 or 34" UW is definitely the limit of my desk space 😏... BF5 has RT? How did I not know that !

Buy a bigger desk JK😂 And yes BFV was a RT tech demo. One of those games amd guys love so much😂 ​@@Spratty-wb3is

@strangedotmachine9281 I'd love too but I don't have the room and I d be say too close..

@debiandreb5210 if I remember very similar. I think the XTX has a decent raster advantage in this game so they end up very similar after RT. Although Nvidia might have Frame gen also available!

@DonovanMcNabb5 I don't think I've ran Fortnite with RT. I'll be honest, I didn't know it had RT 😅

@laracroft8553 I didn't ever imagine paying this much for a gpu when I bought it. But it's not something I've come to regret, unlike tons of other purchases 😂..

@@strangedotmachine9281 I think the 8800xt could be a really good gpu. Priced aggressive and with better efficiency I might be tempted to pick up one myself. As for the 5080 I'm not sure. I did hear initially below 4090 performance so it would fall in line with sales to China. I've since heard a rumour they will make a 5090 specific for China so we can only wait and see. Again efficiency and price could be key.

You gotta be kidding if you think that AMD will have a 500$ card equal to 4080S, they already have that card, it's called 7900XTX, and it ain't 500$.

@@Dylanwill8920 No sorry yes you are right they do have some RT and AI cores just a much lower amount or less mature. But yes the impression given in most let's say arguments between AMD/Nvidia over RT is that RT is a waste of time and not of interest by the AMD owners who prefer raster performance. So the conversation is more pointing towards is that an honest opinion, and If so how do they feel about AMD putting more resources into RT if that is what AMD intend to do next gen..

@@Spratty-wb3is Yeah to that I guess I'd say its not a very honest opinion or is misleading. Surely there's those who chose to buy a radeon gpu because they simply wanted best rasterised performance for the price or more vram or similar argument, But then there's also going to be a large number of people with their AMD getting defensive about criticism and then trying to justify it and this is the convenient reason. I wonder what they'll say when RT is good enough on either and rasterisation is no longer the fallback left when you turn off RT and maybe have the extra option in some games to turn on raster for performance boost instead of RT(near future rather than distant future), probably the same vibes as the discussion between AMD and nVidia in the days before RT and AI e.g. "nVidia has Gsync" vs "AMD is bringing out freesync soon and it doesn't require expensive gsync module" . There seems to have always been fanboys either side, just swap in and swap out the reasons they throw at eachother. I think the main reasons they "aren't interested" is because of the limited performance relative to raster right now, and or that it doesn't look as good to them possibly because it has to be limited to actually run well enough on any gpu brand, the second one being subjective. We are in a transition between the two at the moment and so funnily enough people are divided on which is better. If or when its basically all RT games then there wont be a choice and we will find a new thing to compare and take sides on. Surely the need for the performance to run it is partly why upscalers have become such a big thing lately, gpus have gotten huge and have tens of thousands of cuda cores or shaders but i guess progress is not fast enough towards RT purely on hardware growth alone so now we have the workaround of compromising on base render resolution to help get the power for needed for RT it seems. Sorry gone on a bit of a tangent here thinking outloud but I guess what im saying is there'll always be something to complain about or compare and comparison is the thief of joy, and however we look at it and however much you paid for green or red or blue you're still getting to play games with epic performance compared to ten years ago. Theres a saying in the MTB community, "just run what ya brung" have fun playing your games how you want.

@@Dylanwill8920 Dude it was a good read and I agree with what your saying. I completely agree that RT is rubbished on performance. If RT had no performance cost I'm sure everybody is running RT. And yeah when we get to the point RT performs the same between all brands, we will inevitably move on to a new argument 😂

To be fair aswell, the only reason we're prone to arguing is cos we're enthusiasts or passionate. You know who's not arguing about RT Vs raster or anything GPU related, my partner she's more likely to argue whether your bookshelf should be organised alphabetically or by colour, but then she's a bookthusiast. So it's all good fun.😂

@@frogboyx1Gaming Yeah man it's a nice build. The AMD build is pretty sweet as well, did you check that out? It's got more RGB, go faster 😂

@@RJTHEGAME Yeah I agree! In the long run AMD making RT a slightly higher priority is gonna be better for them in the long run as it could sway Nvidia users over...

@@Spratty-wb3is defo

Also one thing that's often not mentioned is that AMD actually made some very nice ray tracing gains with RX 7000 GPU's. In my own comparisons for example a 7900XTX is very comparable to my 3080Ti with ray tracing enabled. Thats around an RTX 4070 Super level of ray tracing. RTX 4000 would of course have more of an advantage with multiple types or RT effects and with path tracing, especially if shader execution reordering is used which is an RTX 4000 exclusive architecture feature games libe Cyberpunk/AW2 and I think Wukong and a few others support (Portal RTX)

@TerraWare I completely agree dude! I'm personally looking forward to it. I'm actually really looking forward to Battlmage at the moment more than anything else. More than anything, just to see how far Intel can go in the second generation..

@@TerraWare That's what I posted, RT was worse on the 6000 series, so really i'm expecting further improvement to RT on 8000 I don't like these rumours however about the Raster being worse than the XTX. If that's the case then I don't upgrade to a 8000 series I want a more powerful GPU if going to upgrade As always i'll be checking hardware unboxed for 3rd party benchmarks and maybe if you do some videos about it you as well 👍 I never take anything AMD or Nvidia say until I see those benchmarks

@@RJTHEGAME I stay away from rumors. There's so much misinformation even credible leakers get a lot of things wrong. The final product will be what it is anyway.