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Yup, I'd like that too! Also, I just don't get a blood knot tag. I use a davy knot for speed. The rest of the video is very cool! Thanks.

It'd work, but the sliding loop knot slides too easily in my opinion. I use a unit knot for the sliding tag. It holds much tighter and still slides. The knot is quicker too than a perfection loop too, well, according to my fingers. Haha. Cheers

Cry about it. It's still using a fly, spinning gear is better anyways as it is more versatile and I never lose fish on a nice spinning reel with smooth drag. Fly rods are obsolete old tech. Fly rods are only good for people fishing small streams or people on a boat able to get where you'd be unable to cast with a fly rod.

I like switching back and forth between drop shot rig and tandem euro rigs. I just add a drop shot above the bottom fly using a uni knot. Works great!

Orvis has an option to buy multiple sizes in one pack. I would start with that then the amount or size depends on water speed and depth. It takes a little tinkering to find the right balance each time you go out.

@@therantingangler excellent thank you so much,I'm going to try it tomorrow.

I make my own drop shot weights from W beads. Specially bent wire is inserted through the (slotted) W bead and glued in place. These allow me to on/off or move the weight just like a miniature bass sized drop shot. Great feel of the bottom with W. The other non-toxics are too light in some stretches. No pliers needed. Use the weights you’re no longer incorporating into flies.

The best thing to do is look up a hatch chart for your area. It will tell you the hatches and approximate times the bugs hatch.

Yep. And I fish it with a sighter or indicator. Conditions dictate. Thanks for watching.

True. Thanks for watching.

When you live1000 miles from the Ocean in some of the most beautiful countryside on Earth its not a bad excuse to get outside and appreciate the beauty of a stream and its ecosystem. You simply can't compare a pretty mountain stream to the desert that is fishing offshore. Mountains are far more interesting. But I get it. I've used tougher fish for bait for big saltwater fish than any trout that ever swam. If I want a real fight with unlimited tackle then Salt is where its at.

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Then we couldn't say we're fly fishing...

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One of the big advantages of the drop shot is using larger, more realistic flies. You can get down much faster or as fast as euro nymphing. There is a reason all the competition euro nymphers use very small, stripped down flies. It’s all about getting them to sink faster. You also have way more control over adjustments by adding more shot or taking shot off. Vs. cutting a fly off and adding one with more weight.

We all have opinions and it is important to respect them. Thanks for watching.

Dry fly fishing is alive and well in our area. But swinging wet flies is a lost art for sure.

Nope. I swing wet flies and streamers (one-handed or trout spey) as much as I euro-nymph, maybe more, depending on the water and where I think the fish are. You have a lot more reach casting than euro-nymphing and cover more water. Small rivers are perfect for euro-nymphing, larger rivers are better with wet and streamer flies for me. 90% of my fly fishing is sub-surface and I try to avoid bobber-nymphing with indicators because the depth is fixed for the whole swing but the river never is the same depth.

Glad it was helpful!

As far as I know it is not legal in CA

​@@patsheridan Carrie Wilson, California Department of Fish and Wildlife, jul 19, 2017: "There is often confusion regarding this set-up as it is very popular in other states given the presentation, not to mention when the split-shot snag is on the bottom, the angler usually only loses the weights. Unfortunately, in California if the weight is oriented below the flies, it would be illegal. If an angler is uncertain, an easy way to test the set-up would be to hold the leader in the air, grasping the section above the flies. If the weight hangs below the lowest fly, it's illegal. One option that fly anglers use in California to emulate this technique is to use a heavily weighted nymph to replace the spilt-shot, but that runs the risk of losing that terminal fly to snags. The origins of the previously mentioned regulation stem from an unethical technique that uses weights below hooks to snag salmon, but the regulation is also applicable for protecting inland fisheries as well." the Commies in California always manage to find a way to screw their citizens. No other state does this.

@@patsheridan I believe possible answer to this would be to put the nymph on a dropper that causes it to hang below the weight when held vertically. But that increases the chance of a snag and you still might run into a warden who still thinks it illegal. That is why I contact nymph fish (euro nymph) and will not use a drop shot rig when within the borders of California.

not everybody here lives in California. It is perfectly legal in MANY areas of the world.

@@josephine6602 I never said everyone lives in California I was just trying to spread awareness. Jeez take a pill .

Yeah same concept, curious the proper fly rigging procedure. Tags? Or in line?

@@therantingangler Tags exactly as you described.

Dave isn’t using a true mono right now setup. He is using a very long leader he is able to cast more easily that he incorporates sighter so he can switch back and forth. I can cast a mono rig about 15-20 feet max.

Thanks for watching. It's all about what works for you.

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Also in California as well. Damn snaggers use this kind of set up

That's why I mentioned some states have banned this set-up. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching, and your thoughts are spot on!

What should he be using

As an older guy, I have seen many people finding great success on the river/stream using equipment that most would deem “wrong”. A good fisherman, like a good guitar player or craftsman don’t have to depend on equipment to be successful. Besides, the rod and reel on this vid are high quality but really it’s whatever you feel comfortable with that will make for a good time on the water imho

Doesn’t ( pls excuse grammar)

@@Stonefly222 Don't need to be old or young to acquire knowledge and seeking ways of doing things... Now as for the Good or average fisherman, everyone has its own goal and when it comes down to opting for the right technique it's just about being efficient rather than stubborn snobby and absolutely wanting to use a fly rod. I adapt to what the fish want, not to my own preferences. Actually this concept of using split shot with a larvea or a fly has been around since WW2 in France. What annoys me is when someone from another continent is just claiming the name of something that has been around for over half a century AND doesn't provide an improvement, worse part is that a less effective method is presented as "novelty" with a click bait title. The copying attitude is in Europe too with stuff coming from the US. {I guess human nature is just full of self-centred individuals}

Makes total sense. Normal euro nymphing is constrained by competition rules which don't apply to the every day fly angler. I really love the idea of not having to tie flies in multiple weights. Just change the splitshot to adapt.

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Yes, some of us have been doing it for longer than most would have imagined. Thanks for watching!

Thanks, Andy!

Thanks so much for watching and providing a much apperciated comment. After a conversation with a peer I constructed such a "leader" to give it a go and also provide me with first-hand experience. Some would describe me as at least a fair caster and I struggled to present a dry fly to 30' with it. Since this set-up has been promoted to "John and Jane Q. Flyfisher" I took this set-up to a gathering of avid fly fishers with "average" casting skills. To a person none of them could present a dry to a level considered worthy of stream time. Perhaps some day I'll go more in-depth in my findings.