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@@chrishubatsek5434 a lot of times that can be caused by a loose pin in the comma harness. About 3 months ago they redesigned the Ford Q4 harness because it was so fragile.

Hmm. I'll have to check that tomorrow. I'm assuming I have a new Q4 harness as I only received it 2 weeks ago.

@ oh, yea it could be dead on arrival then. The easiest thing to do is order a second one and see if it fixes the problem. If it does, return the first one, if it doesn’t then return the second one and keep troubleshooting. Best to message me on discord, that is a much better medium for support than a TH-cam comments sections discord.gg/sunnypilot

Thank you. I'll try that first.

Pricing as of 12.03.2024 is $1269 + tax. Comma3x + Ford Q4 Harness + Long ODB-C Cable. Black Friday they were on sale $150 off.

This wasn't my car, I just put the video up for Rufus because he didn't have a youtube account. Perhaps the answer is in his build thread: www.gt40s.com/threads/rufus-gt-r.52492/

Yes. if you are running bluepilot just use the software menu to change to the "staging" branch. If you need to do a full install use the URL: bit.ly/bp-staging

@@scott5280 2023 = yes, 2024 = no

I might know a thing or two about bluepilot, you can read more here: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/introducing-bluepilot-a-ford-specific-fork-for-comma3x-openpilot.24241/ The way Ford's logic works, lane centering and acceleration signals on the canbus are blocked if the ACC radar module is not detected on startup. To get the Comma to work you must install the radar module and wire it up. Once that is done, the Comma will work perfectly. There is a thread here about adding the radar module DIY: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/adding-co-pilot-assist-2-0-with-forscan.5028/

@@ajzride Oh ok! Well many thanks for all you are doing. I don't have a digital dash or ACC just lane keeping on my 23 XLT, can I use the comma x3?

@@adamrupert9238 Only if you add the ACC radar. Without that the Ford modules would reject any commands from the Comma3x. Last I checked the cost to add the ACC radar was about $500.

@@ajzride Ok thanks for letting me know. With ACC added I still could not use bluepilot because of my dash not being digital?

@@adamrupert9238 No sir. with ACC added you can use Bluepilot, digital dash is not needed. Lots of XL and XLT F150s with analog cluster using Comma3x.

I installed BC 1.4 in February, you can find my comparison to openpilot here: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/page-33#post-421452 With regards to updates since this video, yes, there have been leaps and bounds of improvements. See here: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/introducing-bluepilot-a-ford-specific-fork-for-comma3x-openpilot.24241/ My dislike of super cruise is that (last time I checked) they didn't have a hands on lane centering assistance for non-super cruise highways. It's all or nothing.

Awesome, thanks for the info and the links. I’ll go down the rabbit hole!!

@@RecoveringUGrad graziano

If you are referring to the distance ACC follows the lead car, that is adjusted in OP using the "driving personality". For me maniac on Op and the closest bar on stock ford are both too far for Houston traffic.

It's better, but still not perfect. I did a pretty lengthy technical write up on the limitations of ADAS systems and approaching stopped/slow vehicles here: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/page-28#post-407838 When in experimental mode the comma works pretty well because it can detect an "intersection" about 250m out. The downside is sometimes it will slam on the brakes at a crossroad it thinks is an intersection.

@@ajzride thanks for the replay, I saw your technical write up and the video. With sunny pilot, did it get better with braking?

Sunny uses the same model, so no difference.

I think so, but I'm not positive. I know a 2021 does not work and 2023 does. If the 2022 got the new PSCM and IPMA, then it will work. You can tell by testing the lane assistance feature. If it constantly steers the vehicle to stay center in the lane, then Comma will work. If it only bumps the vehicle back towards center when you near the lane edge, it will not work with Comma.

@@ajzride and i choose a f150 in vehicle type, right? thank you so much man

@@221akm Yes. Choose F150, they have the same control scheme.

Well, rolling back to an old version isn’t that easy, there is only one link and it always has the latest rev. The good news is that the old models are still there and can be loaded up from inside the newest version. That said I suspect you probably have a different issue as the latest model is performing really well on 2021 F150s. I would first check that your mount is still securely attached to your window and is not starting to be loose. A shaky mount results in really poor performance. If the mount is solid then try resetting calibration from inside the menu. If that doesn’t work let me know and we can try selecting a different model.

@@ajzride I already checked and did calibration again but still same issue

@@happy2gud in the menu go to software and then check your driving model. You can use the select button to choose and older model that correlates to a time you thought it drove better.

@@ajzride ok I will try thanks dear

Yes. Any 2021-2023 F150 with adaptive cruise.

The Lightning has CAN Errors while starting up due to the length of the USB cable required because of the location of the Ford module not being by the mirror like all other makes. This harness fixes those CAN errors

This should work: www.amazon.com/KWANGIL-22AWG-Conductor-Cable-UL2464/dp/B0CSD5QZ21/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3SYZX7HLH9K26&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.YN04VTuJRi3Wkqjw6iYxBO-9DsD-wKbjh_hUuh9SSGxt59zDMaV-aVZiPIvdV40j_HvaJVK42B5LcYtqOisrUC461tVaSSwxIae7hCzqlMWVUca4ACUqkSVRV_FEmUW-xLFRt-EljHWtqBg-oul93ge5YIIuxpcbJBJRJVvpjAejEuLz8jskZf4-gTIkNtZEoPDfSb7IT-zyG5wKoiVoNZy1lXuaWMaarj4I7d4TOS1stWVKhTkiEND3hlCIgI_T6iK6RiAAYipQ0gCfsTE8BwBGS-DcAyB3iYy0IpMs6dI._JiEuuAMznft_tFCmiAv5ml_aSDfreZLcyeLm0eZNOQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=12%2Bconductor%2B22awg&qid=1717506528&sprefix=12%2Bconductor%2B22awg%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

Unfortunately we haven't figure out how to get that to work yet as Ford throws some errors on their side when we try to engage. However adding ACC is a reasonable DIY project, and it works perfect after that is added. www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/adding-co-pilot-assist-2-0-with-forscan.5028/page-72#post-457616

@@ajzride thanks... i will investigate more to see if it's doable for me. thanks.

Industrial Controls & Automation.

3M VHB. www.amazon.com/Lamtoon-Charging-Transfer-Thunderbolt-MacBook/dp/B08NPSX7FF?pd_rd_w=ecqfs&content-id=amzn1.sym.b46c8fe2-d558-44b6-a291-82096c829da9&pf_rd_p=b46c8fe2-d558-44b6-a291-82096c829da9&pf_rd_r=2KWY2V872QQR1WHGDDFV&pd_rd_wg=Yhtk8&pd_rd_r=b43e77b9-71db-4c90-8441-4c9cf426242c&pd_rd_i=B08NPSX7FF&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_1_ec_pd_gwd_bag_pd_hp_d_atf_rp_3_t

@@ajzride thank you and you trust that in Texas and Louisiana heat? Or do you remove device every time ?

@@BradleyNicholscrazymini print out of ASA or ABS and it will hold up. I remove anytime the truck is sitting more than an hour and the temp is over 85.

What screen do you get?

@@ajzride it’s saying ready to upload Upgrade now Setting ⚙️ Temp:- good Vehicle-online Connect:-online Sunnylink:-online

@@happy2gud that means there is an issue with the wiring. Do me a favor, make a post on the forum, it will be much easier to help in that format than TH-cam comments: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/

www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/

@@ajzrideposted

Starbond for the glue and accelerant.

Unfortunately I’m not in a position to make these for others. You could ask on the lightning forum if anyone is interested in making one for you.

The harness I made for Isaac was unshielded and it's not having any issues.

Power and data are over the USB cable for 3X

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. I might have to try to get one made.

Comma now sells a "long" version of their custom cable that is 9.5 foot and works perfectly. comma.ai/shop/obd-c-cable

Unfortunately without ACC, the truck will reject the steering commands from the Comma (Ford designed it that way). The good news is adding ACC isn't that hard, you can read through this thread here (the thread is long, but once it was figured out it's pretty straightforward): www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/adding-co-pilot-assist-2-0-with-forscan.5028/

Someone today has decided to take a crack at making it work with XLs. Check back in 4-6 weeks and ask me how it went.

@@ajzridethat was me 😂

​@@ajzrideupdate?

Yes, if you have lane centering it will work. You need the Q4 harness. I have an install video here: th-cam.com/video/32rlByNSN6k/w-d-xo.html And there is a forum thread here with lots of discussion: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/page-38#post-430273

Thank you sooo so much for the quick reply! Have a great evening!@@ajzride

If you follow the link to the forum in the description, I actually posted a full how-to PDF today. Just giving you the URL might not do you a ton of good with all the other stuff.

If you are buying a new Comma, just add it to your basket, if you already have a comma, you can buy just a harness at www.comma.ai/shop/harness-connector. You want a Ford Q4 Connector for an F150.

Yes, I will buy the harness, but I was unsure where to connect it?@@ajzride

@@WagnerJA797 somehow I misread your comment as where to buy it. Apologies. Watch the 8 minute mark of this video, I show where it connects. Just take note it did need to go into the black port and not the grey one.

@@ajzride OK I got it, I'll try to install on my Ford Ranger 2024

@@WagnerJA797 no one has gotten a raptor to work yet, and only the Raptor version of the Ranger is likely to work. A lower trim might work with some forscan changes. You are in very experimental territory here. I suggest you head to the discord channel here so you can talk through this with some experts. discord.com/channels/469524606043160576/539096103468007424

physical install video is here: th-cam.com/video/32rlByNSN6k/w-d-xo.html software install how-to here: www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/page-35#post-425486

Awesome! I saw the video and you needed other hardware to intercept the signal. Where did you buy all that? Do you have a hardware checklist/ shopping list?

@@waynefernandes9455 can you send me a DM or make a post on the forum? Comma's store is really hard to link to, screenshots are better, but they don't work well in TH-cam comments.

Yes.

@@ajzride appreciate the quick response! Can you adjust the follow distance on this fork? I am running dragon pilot on a different vehicle and follow distance adjustment is something I really need. Thank you.

@@waynefernandes9455 yes. The stock button on the steering wheel adjust between normal, aggressive, and maniac.

@@ajzride which button adjusts follow distance? That’s nice to know that acceleration profile can be adjusted with the hard button.

@@waynefernandes9455 The stock for "gap" button changes the personality. The personality changes acceleration and braking profile along with the follow distance. Relaxed personality has about a 4 second gap, aggressive has about 3.5, and maniac has about 3 seconds.

The F150 is not on the website as a supported vehicle, but it is considered "in development". 85% of features work, including being a full blue cruise replacement.

@@ajzride Thank you!

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a comma 3x for my truck. I can find everything except for the proper mounting brackets. Would you be willing to 3d print a set to sell to me?

@@1970chrish The video is a few months old. The mounts are in stock now and should ship with your device.

Yes, I did use it with a trailer the other day. Definitely turn off automatic lane changes while a trailer is hooked up though.

@@ajzride does your truck have lane keep assistance with a trailer even without the Comma running? Ford apparently disabled it but I’m wondering if Forscan could change that anyways.

@@Ranger5250 Yes, Ford disables it so mine doesn't work with a trailer either. I've never seen it in the forscan spreadsheet, so if it's possible, no one has figured it out yet.

@@ajzride cool, I’m ordering now! Thank you!

@ajzride @Ranger5250 So, does lane centering work with Sunnypilot with a trailer? I guess Ford won't be able to "disable" Sunnypilot from doing lane centering with trailer, right?

Yes, someone on our dev team has a lightening. It runs OpenPilot exactly like the ICE F150 does. Lightning currently gets some warning lights that are not affecting driving, we are working to resolve those with better cabling.

@@ajzride I'm gonna order the hardware. I'd like to get some pointers on navigating the github site and downloading the correct software. Is the forum the best place to get some instruction?

@@Drayday55 head to the link below and then send me a private message. www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/openpilot-on-the-f-150-bluecruise-alternative.19342/

@ajzride I will. Im on Lightning owners forum and hooked up with the guy with the lighting on your team.!

If by “second gen raptor” you mean a 2015-2020 raptor it will not work. The power steering module in those year fords will reject the messages you send.

@@ajzride Thanks. I guess I'll just have to keep waiting...

Yes, it should work, other raptors are working. You need the “Ford Q4 Harness” and you want to install SunnyPilot/dev-c3.

@@ajzride thanks so much for the info! 🙏🏽

Correct