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You tried a Crystal light yet?

Is it on par in terms of clarity with the Crystal? I am hoping it is nearly there if you crank up the steam super sampling

No. It's not close to the sharpness of a Crystal or Aero. The resolution feels similar to a Quest Pro. But the headset has a nice 3D feel to it. I think the OLED contrast and the headset brightness just makes VR feel more real vs other LCD headsets

@@wickfut-racing no i had the orginal crystal

@@wickfut-racing thats what i find also.. the psvr2 is not that sharp and you have mura..But the 3d and colors and blacks sucks you more into the game...With the quest 3 and crystal i had something looking at a flatscreen if you you know what i mean..

Yes. It does seem to be one of those excellent Race@home motion platforms.

I don't recall the god rays being bad on the G2 v2. I do on the Samsung Odyssey and HTC Vive though. I have owned 3x headsets with Pancake lenses though and sold them all within 6 months.

@@wickfut-racing The Q3 with Virtual Desktop is a fantastic VR experience. VDXR is a magic implementation of OpenXR, lol. Better than I thought possible with basically the same res as the G2. Not perfect but closer than I thought before I tried it. When I think of how many hours I had to struggle with G2 in DCS/MSFS20/ACC/ATS and with the Q3 it was much easier to get much better results with the same computer.

I don't use OpenXR / composite / toolkit with the Aero. I tried it a couple of times but I felt it made the image have less 3D depth to it. There's a file which needs to be replaced in order for it to work on the Varjo, but I was given it on the Official Varjo discord and didn't save it.

@@wickfut-racing Ok Thanks for your feedback. What sort FPS are getting? I'm around 60FPS with SteamVR.

@@waltercardillo2273 I have it locked to 90fps in day time, night time and rain causes dips to around 80fps depending on how many cars are on screen. I just lowered the game settings until it runs right. I'm running SteamVR at 100% resolution scale. Mostly medium settings in the game, MSAA set to low, max 15 cars.

yeah it's great isn't it, looking forward to seeing how it runs with a 5090. Just scored a 4k 60hz video capture card for my old PC to take the recording stress off the main. Not sure what to do with it yet though.

In VR in a Reverb it looks a little worse due to the panel resolution. In headsets like a Varjo Aero and Pimax Crystal it looks a little sharper. Have you tried VR?

yes, but it's still not perfect.

cheers. Not sure if you mean the music or the racetrack ha , music is Supernova - Cheesy DJs (Cube::Hard rmx) , track is the nurburgring nordschleifering

Music track is killer as well. Needed the actual track tho. Keep these vids comin' my man!!!@@wickfut-racing

Both! And thank you... Love these vids.@@wickfut-racing

@@wickfut-racing These vids rock!

Logitech G Pro wheel/pedals with Simagic DS8X shifter. If you do go VR sim racing, get some sort of shakers or haptics, NLR HF8 once set up is amazing for placing you in the car as you drive.

Doesn't bother me at all. Aero is wider while the Crystal is deeper. Crystal is similar to a Pico 4, Aero is similar to a Reverb.

USB wired on a Pico isn't like Display Port wired. It still runs through the encoder/decoder and adds the latency. All it saves is the time it takes to run through the network, which you can see is around 7ms on the video. VD vs Streaming Ass. VD wins , it encodes at a higher resolution and bitrate. Wireless every time. Pico pancake lenses are bad, they blur quite a lot around the edges and bloom on bright objects. They're like a cheap plastic toy lens which makes everything fuzzy. For use in sim racing I have nothing nice to say about the Pico to be honest, same as the Quests, I think they're junk. I can't even sell it. Nobody wants it.

Thanks @@wickfut-racing

Yeah that cross-eyed thing with the Pimax is something I couldn't get used to. It also went worse if I set different resolutions other than 100% scaling. I keep getting tempted to try another to make sure it wasn't just bad lenses each time they put the discount codes up on Amazon, I think the last one was saving near £500 less what I paid. Which is great if the lenses are suited to you. I have my name down for a Somnium but don't think I'll try it. Looking at the specs it's the same weight as the Crystal, only it'll be even worse balanced as it won't have a Crystal battery at the rear. And Varjo Aero has been discontinued and not for sale any longer. So.. EOL , little to no resale value if you get one.

yeah , I'm hoping the 5090 is another large step in GPU performance over the 4090. Looking forward to it

because you need an xbox controller or a wheel, not motion controls.

Thanks!@@wickfut-racing

I didn't try the SteamVR render window. That was the Geforce Experience recorder. just checked your channel, You reminded me I need to play GT7 again.

When you have a Displayport headset then it only needs to generate the frame. When you have a wireless headset like a Pico or Quest you have to generate the frame, compress it to a smaller lower quality image, send it down a USB cable or over a wifi signal to the headset where the headset then has to decode it and turn it back into an image. This is why I won't go near wireless headsets.

It's well worth getting. It's the best headset I've tried so far (I've owned 10x headsets). I'm actually quite happy with it. A little underwhelmed on the first day but then you realise how great it is once you get used to it. Only things I'd like to see improved are the black levels and FOV. It should get even better once the 5090 releases and I can start running games using the 39PPD setting. The music, I wrote it. I've done the music for the last 3 vids. There's a link which pops up in a box during the last 10 seconds of the video. Thanks

old Speilberg / Red Bull Ring

Do you feel better now?

@@wickfut-racing 🤣🤣

It depends on your GPU. But usually, Yes.

Vr is the way to go for simracing. Love it big time.

th-cam.com/video/ZlOOdZzBkV4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=q4ApE4boShed7Spg thanks

It's a nice step up from the Reverb. But the lenses are a pain. They give me more eye strain than I get with other headsets. It doesn't feel completely natural , like I'm wearing incorrect prescription glasses. It's not game breaking. But it's something which annoys me. Resolution is amazing. Headset is a bulky heavy horrible design. Audio is terrible. Tracking is good. Buy it if you just want the resolution and that's all that counts. If you want a general headset to play beatsabre with then run away

@@wickfut-racing Thank you for the information!

Hey man does it run hot aswell like the reverb i get hit eyes after a while ,i was looking at this headset but now the beyond vr gets out in januari and that looks sweet

@@ronaldkasteel3459 No mine doesn't get hot, my Reverb never got hot either? It gets foggy lenses when I first put it on for a couple of minutes though. Yeah I'm looking at a Beyond also. Not sure about the 75hz to run 2560x2560 resolution though. I tried the Crystal at 72hz and I guess I could get used to it at a push and it was nice to increase all the graphic settings a bit more but I went back to 90hz as it just felt much better.

Just lower MSAA if it dips during night time. I can't really test now as I've changed wheels and PC2 isn't compatible with the new one. I'm 100% AMS2 now. Also I now have a Crystal and not a Reverb, so can't check either.

CPU is a 13900KF. 128GB memory. I don't use these settings any more. I run 100% scaling in OpenXR now. So around 4300x5100 or something. OpenXR I have FFR set to 85%. I my game settings as: MSAA set to low. Textures high, and other things set to low/medium. Hit 90fps in the day time. Some judders with lots of cars so I started having little races with 10x cars. At night I have to switch out MSAA to FXAA medium. I'm still balancing it to be honest. I'll upload a little video of the settings pages tomorrow.

@@wickfut-racing thanks! Are you going with 120 or 90 fps?

@@patrickle1 I run 90fps.

i write the music so it's just a way for me to share it.

Logitech G Pro DD wheel and pedal set

how did you get paste the multiple inputs detected errors if any?. I cannot get this game to work with it.

And are you using g923 mode?

@@AndreS-yc9gb no?

@@AndreS-yc9gb When you do the wheel , you still have to do the setup and allocate the left right and pedals etc. To get it to register you have to turn the wheel far left or right and then return it to centre quickly. It only registers once it returns to centre for some weird reason.

You lower the resolution down to run the game maxed out or you use the frame smoothing? I tried running 120hz with frame smoothing so I was playing 60fps. Was ok but i'll wait for the 72hz firmware

@@wickfut-racing I'm running 90. Seems steady with 25 cars during day. I do get random freezes. Not sure what that is all about

@@cdrseabee What resolution? 100% SteamVR resolution or OpenXR default, which is much lower? I can only hit about 45-60fps running 100% scaling in SteamVR with everything on full.

No reshade. I can't remember what I did off the top of my head. OpenXR lowered contrast, increased in-game brightness to 2.0 then ran the race at 4pm in January. If I added some post processing it may have been a LUT running 20% power in clipchamp just to bring out the shadow details and some more saturation to compensate for youtube darkening.

no. not tried it. it's going to a mates kid for xmas soon so it's boxed up and I'll be moving to an Aero, Crystal or BSB as soon as they're available in UK If you try it let me know how it goes. Might get a Quest 3 just out of curiosity to see what it's like.

@@wickfut-racing fair enough. I've owned every oculus/meta headset before Pro. I would say the CV1 and RIFT S were amazing. I forgot how good they were im sure it felt better than Quest 2 and Pico 4 as it didn't rely on wireless tech. Somehow feel its all going backwards in terms of tech and quality.

@@jungleboy1 I was like that when they shifted from OLED to LCD. I sold my Samsung Odyssey when the Reverb first launched and near cried when I tried it with Elite Dangerous and seen how bad the LCD contrast was. The tech is definitely going in funny directions rather than forwards

No. It still encodes a video compressed stream, sends it and then decodes it back inside the headset. No difference in what happens with USB and WIFI other than USB doesn't have the 5ms network latency

if your encoding is high then it's usually down to your game rendering resolution. Are you super-sampling to 150%-200% ?

yeah, I went through all the VR racing games and this and Project Cars are leaps ahead of everything else. Dirt Rally is decent too like but I don't have a handbrake so don't play it much.

100% scaling is 3100x3100 or around about there. SteamVR defaults to 150% scaling which is 3800x3700 with a 4090 and a Reverb. I use OpenXR so bypass SteamVR. This is left to default, which is as I said 3100x3100. In Open Composite settings I have: CAS 20% sharpening. FFR set to Wide/Quality. Turbo enabled. In the game settings I have: Performance menu- RES 1920x1080 59hz (this is what is shown on the desktop so doesn't matter for VR) Texture filtering 16x MSAA Medium Reflections High Environment map High Car Detail Ultra Track detail Ultra Shadow High Mirror No Grass High Particle (both) Ultra Then In the VR Menu Super Sampling 2.0 In the visuals Menu, everything on full other than bloom Off and CREP rays OFF.

@@wickfut-racing thank you very much.I will try those settings

Hey, I appreciate the video and your settings info. I JUST upgraded from 3080 to 4080; I'm about to have my first first race with the new hardware. 100% G2 resolution woohoo!

@@keithb4048 How is it on the 4080? Do you have to lower the super-sampling to get running @ 90fps

@wickfut8917 I'll have to back at you. Only played for a few mins. Was running 50-60 % res on 3080. Seems yes I can have 100% res BUT I will still need to tinker (and tinker) to get a reliable set and forget settings. Tried in heavy Rain, dropped to 60fp ish. msaa medium is likely a no go on a 4080.

If you have a capable GPU and play sims then G2 hands down. There's no comparison between them. If you want to play Space Pirate Trainer then Pico 4.

Dont both have Fresnel lenses. Id avoid that lens type like the plague.

hi, yes. the entire floor is a big blur, Look at the road directly to the left of the white and orange car. It gets reduced a fair bit with 264+ 300-400Mbps, but not entirely

Is it very noticeable/annoying when playing? There is nothing on the market with DP that would tick all the boxes and had standalone mode as well :/

@@wickfut-racing is it very distracting?

@@mike_33gt depends. I see it and it annoys me. I don't play with the Pico 4 much as I don't like it. I'll probably end up giving it to family or selling it in the next few weeks. Have you looked at the Pico neo 3?

@@wickfut-racing no, not yet. I was thinking about pico 4 as it has pancake lenses. I tried only psvr2 and it was terrible (frensel lenses). I bought a pc with 4090 and 7800x3d and now trying to buy a headset

Mate, I bought a Quest pro after reading how amazing and a huge upgrade it was compared to everything else. It was a huge disappointment. No wonder they're getting sold off via the back door quick for £650 brand new now. I'm waiting to see how the PSVR2 PC mod thing works out, if not I'll likely get a Bigscreen Beyond, that's if any actual worth playing games get released. It seems everything I play in VR now is 3-4 years old or more.

@wickfut8917 idk i bought my rift s for 90$ on eBay. I used it for a week, and now it sits unused, too much setup and the grid between pixels can be annoying. half life alyx was fun for a bit though.

get on humble bundle and buy the vr racer bundle for 10

@@wickfut-racing ill check it out, i tried getting assetto corsa set up put it was a pain in the ass

You tested a Pico4 , Reverb G2 and Quest Pro? I bought the Quest Pro first and spent 2 days comparing it to my old Reverb G1 and didn't like it one bit. Uncomfortable, low res with poor black levels were what sprung to mind the first few minutes I wore it, and it didn't improve over time. I posted on the Quest Pro sub asking if my Oculus Tool settings and latency results were normal and they were. I felt like I'd been outright lied to by all the Quest Pro review videos. I returned it within 4 days and bought a G2v2 and a Pico4. I find the G2 really shines once you use it with a 4090.

@@wickfut-racing No, I don't have a Quest Pro, it was a Quest 2 I tested with along side the Pico and G2v2. To be honest, at it's price point, I never had any interest in the Quest Pro, way too much money for what it is. I'm Canadian, so originally the Pro was $2000, since the price drop, it's now $1400 in Canadian funds, still way too much. I am really getting tired of all the affordable to semi affordable VR headsets all being stand alone and the only REAL PCVR headsets are priced out of my range (Varjo Aero and the new Pimax Crystal). Stand alone is great for those who don't have a gaming PC, but for PCVR, they all suck for sims (racing and flight) due to the compression they need to use. The only exception to this would be the Pico Neo 3 Link, never tried one though.

first gpu upgrade which I've thought was worth it, and that's from a 3090

@@wickfut-racing well i upgraded my gt1030 to a gtx1660s so i understand (kinda)

@@shrekrecker you gamed on a 1030? jesus