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@@romanhernz3839 sorry to hear that! It’s still my “main” alongside the Vatic Pro Saga But that’s what there are so many options on the market!

@@scooterreviewsstuff for me felt flat, maybe the Flow will be better, thanks for your videos.

@@123BV8 I watched it earlier, and I just watched it again to double check myself before responding. He mentioned that he has not experienced any crunching or changes in play but that there were "signs" of core crushing, but then clarified that it's a sign of a compressed core which is normal even in perfectly healthy paddles. I can't speak for him, but I believe his intention was to show the slight compression and warn that it "could" be a sign of core crushing in the future. He even says "they basically look flawless" and "they look better than most paddles you see on the market" I think the wording and the fact that he even mentioned it at all leads people to believe that there are issues with the core, when in reality they are perfectly fine and likely will not experience any long term damage or core crushing.

@ Signs of core crushing is core crushed

@@kimleith1378 glad I could help! That would’ve been a nice touch for sure! I like when brands get creative with the paddle covers. (Even though I don’t use them anymore)

@@scooterreviewsstuff All my paddles travel in a case/cover. Just my preference.

@ I would use them, but I switched to a KTCHN bag a few months ago which has built in paddle sleeves. So now all my my covers just hangout in my closet

@@ZachWall thanks man! I’ll definitely keep that in mind!

@@scooterreviewsstuff Don't be fooled by this page though ha ha, I finally started a youtube for me pickleball stuff but mainly do it all on instagram

@@alexpazmino4762 It does! It’s quite a powerful paddle and would definitely be considered a power paddle if stuff like the Gearbox PPE and Joola Mod didn’t exist However significantly less pop than something like the Power Air

@@MattyRut2922 you picking one up? It’s a great paddle and I think people are going to love it!

@@PickleballMedicineThanks man! such a great paddle at a great price! Speaking of Gen 1.5…are you reviewing the Saga?

@@ThisAZNKyd that sale was crazy! Insanely good deals for sure. I have no doubt you’ll enjoy those paddles! And thanks for the kind words and sub!

I did this exact same thing except I went with the J2Ti.

@@MattyRut2922 it looks so good! I need more brands to be adventurous with the colorways like 11SIX24!

@@ernest4483 Thanks! The Jelly Bean is definitely a better control paddle, but the Flare Prime X is really working with my game right now! But it’s nice to have a paddle like the Jelly Bean in my bag in case I’m having an off day and struggling to manage the extra power from the Flare Prime X.

​@@scooterreviewsstuffby the way it seems like I'm liking the standard/widebody shape paddles I do like my ESQ-C 14.3mm version power and pop is there for the ESQ-C, but control it does lack, and I know power it takes a while to dial in and a learning curve as well, I will pull the trigger and get the 11SIX24 Jellybean the regular colorway, tbh I need more control/placement on my drives, dinks, volleys and drops, I need to evaluate my weaknesses in which I need control/placement , work on mechanics I'm coming from tennis so I can generate my power and spin and I will use your discount code

@@ernest4483 I think the Jelly Bean will be a really nice complement to your ESQ-C! They share a lot of similarities, so they feel won’t be drastically different. But then you will have a solid control paddle and a solid power paddle! Thanks for the support!

@@dinizluis6490 both are great! So it really depends on if you want a paddle that leans towards control or power. The Flare (Titanium) is one of the better control paddles I’ve tested while still having decent power. The Flare Prime X has a big boost in power/pop and a unique feel that I really enjoy. I’ve been personally using the Prime X as my main paddle since testing it, so as long as you’re not looking for a pure control paddle then that would be my recommendation. Let me know if you have any more specific questions!

@@scottderry2124 it’s a great paddle! All Neonic paddles punch way above their price tag. I’m looking forward to the upcoming Flow Prime X! Should be everything we love about the flow, but with a bit of added pop and power.

@@ernest4483 I don’t have as much experience with the ESQ series as I do with the Flare Prime X, but it’s very very similar to to the 14.3 and definitely toned down from the 12.7. The biggest difference comes in the feel. The denser core and thermoforming gives the FPX a much different feel. But I would say that it would be redundant to own both paddles because they’re so similar in power/pop.

​@@scooterreviewsstuffby the way will you review the Speedup new paddles Pyro and Cryo?

@@ernest4483 no plans yet! But I’ve been meaning to reach out to them. So thanks for the reminder!

@@PickleballMedicine thanks man! That means a lot coming from you! I’m just trying to get on your level. I’ve been tied up at work all morning, but I’m looking forward to watching your review and hearing your thoughts on it!

@@JovanniG678 It’s a really great handle! And just great build quality all around. Especially for a $117 paddle!

@@MattyRut2922 Surprisingly good! My best friend told me last night that he will be switching from the Filth to this paddle. Which is crazy because he has been a diehard fan of the Filth ever since I let him try it

@@reginaldjones4720 I like my paddles a bit on the heavier side, so I have mine currently set up with a 3" of 2g led tape just above the bottom corners (4/8) However if I were starting over I would probably do 4" of 1g tungsten starting just below the corners (5/9) and going up the side, since I think that would offer a more balanced feel

@@ernest4483 Thanks man! The TKO-CX is a great paddle! If you don’t mind the price tag it’s definitely hard to beat! I think the Versix is actually a really solid budget alternative/back up to the TKO-CX.

@@mr.mr.3301 I think that's fair there are some differences. First, this compares closest to the J2K Pro / J3K Pro, which are $148.50 after discount codes versus this one at $117 after codes. Second is the warranty. Honolulu offers a 6-month warranty. Whereas Swice offers a lifetime warranty. ​And lastly, the shape is pretty unique, being right in between the J2/J3. All great paddles, but I do think Swice wins on value (and looks imo)

@@scooterreviewsstuff J2K clears this easy.

@@bsu88 how so?

@@scooterreviewsstufflifetime warranty but what if the brand goes out of business after a few years

@@williamzz5 always a possibility with any company I suppose, however I still appreciate them offering lifetime instead of 6 months / 1 year like most brands

@@Max-ow5wo i recommend overgrips on all paddles! They keep your grips fresh and are cheap to replace

@@jorowi thank you! My goal is always to keep it short and to the point!

@@JovanniG678 thank you! It’s definitely a fun paddle!

Any idea how this plays compare to the spartus Olympus or the ronbus ripple? How does it also sound?

@@tyeung92 I haven’t personally had the chance to try either of those paddles, but based on what I know about them it’s definitely more similar to the Olympus. The sounds is nice. Closer to a normal gen 2 paddle than the gen 3 sound, but with a little bit of that dampened sound from the foam.

@@michaelzendejas978 great question! I actually couldn’t find that info anywhere, probably because it’s not a metric talked about as much with tennis/pickleball shoes as it is with running shoes. But based on feel it’s pretty minimal. Definitely not as much drop as my New Balance and Nike tennis shoes. I think Montis went for a flatter and more stable design with these.

Our drop averages 8-9mm but it varies slightly based on the size you order. Hope this helps!

@@Logan.Ninefingers Hope you dig it! Both are great paddles!

@@ernest4483 Thanks! I would love to see what they could do with the tech as well. I have noticed a few other brands doing a similar method of foam filled cores, so we might get to see that idea done by other brands soon! And yes! I should be getting my Versix very soon! As soon as I get it I’ll start testing it out and prepping my thoughts for a review.

@@WStar4Life Both are great! I would say the Prism Flash is better for pure control and the Flow is more well rounded with a nice balance of control/pop/power. For my game i think I’d choose the Flow at this point. But truly both great paddles!

@@JW-iz6mv Both great paddles! Neonic is killing it lately!

It's a style he chooses, just like people can choose to have manners or not.

@@y2washere i recently got to hit with the TKO-C 14.3 and it was really impressive! I think the TKO-CX 12.7 would be perfect for me based on that experience and the reviews on it. Hopefully I’ll be able to get my hands on them for a review soon!

@@scooterreviewsstuff Yeah it's my main paddle right now. Great paddle but it's not forgiving if you make a mistake with the drop/reset. While I could probably play more competitive with something like the Shogun or Apollo. I just feel like the TKO-C is more fun and I don't mind developing the control to go along w it.

@@y2washere sometimes the more fun paddle is worth it! Even if it means you play worse…

@@scooterreviewsstuff I wouldn't say that I'm playing worse. Just that I have to work harder to play well when it comes to the dinks/resets/drops.

@@y2washere the Vatic Pro Oni paddles came to mind for me. Some of the most fun paddles to play with, but i played objectively worse with them because they were way too poppy.

@@samuelborthwick4867 I think I'd give the edge to the Force ever so slightly, but they're also radically different feeling paddles The Force is elongated with a much stiffer feel, whereas the Flare is that wide body shape with a softer, springier feel. So I think ultimately different people might feel more comfortable generating power with one or the other based on their preferences.

@@khpickleball Thanks! I appreciate it. And I haven't personally seen Neonic or any brand address the polyester / titanium issue other than B&B making a joke in the comments of the PB Persuit podcast video. However, I personally just view it as a marketing term at this point and I don't think any brand is using it maliciously. Unfortunately, it became a feature before it was discovered that it wasn't exactly what the brands thought it was, but it does seem to make a difference in the feel of the paddle, so whatever you call it, I like it!

@@swiftraider759 Tough question! I think for my personal taste i like the Neonic just a little bit more. I like the longer handle and titanium which gives it the edge for me. But my dad still prefers the Fat Boy because it’s a bit stiffer and has a bigger sweet spot.

@@scooterreviewsstuff Thank you for the reply. I do like that the Fatboy has some pop compared to the Mach 2 Forza. Less than the Apollo but the Fatboy has more power. I added 3grams at 3 and 9 o'clock and recently used in a 4.0 tournament. Still maneuverable in the kitchen. Those characteristics you mentioned are important to me as far as the sweet spot a being rigid.

@@swiftraider759 No problem! Really can’t wrong either way since they’re both great!

I just can't with those earrings

@@MattyRut2922Thanks Mat! I always try to go into a review as unbiased as possible. Definitely interesting watching the other reviews coming out today and hearing everyone else’s opinions about it!

@@aaronsegal1682 It’s definitely a good one to consider!

@@kwong8414 Thank you!

@@andrewpham8665 No problem! Glad i could help out.

@@MattyRut2922 Thanks Mat! I'm definitely trying to step it up. I've been doing photography for a long time, but video editing is a whole other beast. I've also been following them since the Kinetic days. Happy to finally check them out and they didn't disappoint!

@@StewNWT Are you referring to the edge guard? Might just be the contrast in color that makes it look more extreme, But no different than any other paddle with an edge guard.

@@shalooom Neonic is one of the best! Super excited to see what else they bring out in the future!

@@vprars06 I like my paddles a bit on the heavy side, So I did about 4g on each side, Starting just below the corners.