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I KNOW!!! I've actually been putting it off the better part of a year for this very reason. But people need it now, so now it is. I'm sure CIG will make it outdated soon enough.

@@expressmangaming650 Yeah, sorry for this, but at least some of the video seems obsolete at this point, or it is for some ships.

@@syn_bandy9208 I mean we expected as much. Which part?

Yeah I considered it, and now I wish I had. I did pin a comment where someone consolidated all the key references.

How it usually happens is, we drop on grid, nothing on the radar yet. Someone shoots. Everyone is looking for the target. Asking is probably too tedious but a simple announcement "fire in the hole" would keep people from reacting. We've also had other ships in the group be "hey whats going on there."

@ that’s fair thanks for providing example situations.

L SHIFT for turret zoom. Nice summary. I meant to make a cheat sheet but we're always one patch away from everything changing!

@@expressmangaming650 I agree. I have plenty of out of date cheat sheets in a folder!

The clip of me scanning from the Hammerhead is only about a month or two old. I think it depends on the ship currently.

Yes. Gimbals will always aim for the center of the target, or the center of the sub-target. Particularly if you're up close on a larger ship, locking gimbals will give you more control of exactly where you're aiming. In practicality, I keep the gimbal on about 80% of the time. Other commenters may have more use cases for locking gimbals.

Yeah it was an experiment. The thought was to see if it would take down Idris shields faster. I don't think it did. And the scatter shit was so wide it was hard to cleanly hit anything smaller than a Hammerhead. Probably won't do that again but it was a fun thing to try.

This is the Way!

Yeah its terminology soup cause CIG (and some other games) take a lot of liberties with it. I think EVE comes closer to real life NAVY so that's what my brain will default to every time. For example CIG calls the Javelin a Destroyer, but as a role it's the big guns that protect the carrier, which historically is a Battleship but modernly is a Cruiser. Whereas a Destroyer (IRL) being a smaller long range scout that punches above its weight class fits the Polaris to a T.

Ive been around for longer then that and have been talking eve with folks since the start. They are the only ones that get it and saw such discussion on a regular basis on every platform. Not sure what you are trying to sell... Heck my own org consisted almost exclusively of vets of those games and few knew each other beforehand and no effort has been made to seek such folk...

Well I was painting in generalities, and I stand by those generalities (I also see you No Mans Sky players). I mean space game people tend to play space games.

Well just to say they are not using Cryengine 3 as such, they are using Lumberyards which while based on Cryengine had been developed out from that and with Amazon giving CIG its own licence to do as it wishes with the version of it they have CIG have been free to call their heavily developed version of lumberyards StarEngine and can even sell it as a stand alone engine if they want to. Presumably with a cut to amazon in the contract. As for the engine being old... I saw someone else say this earlier but they were very much complaining about the age of the engine. This I find very strange as I have been around for several decades now and can reliably inform all that Unreal engine is 26 years old yet is among the best out there. Sufficed to say the age of the engine is unimportant, it is what you do with is that counts, and as we can see from Bethesda whose engine is nearly as old as Unreal 5, some companies don't do much while others invest heavily in their engine. In effect CIG has managed to make a pretty competitive graphics engine over the last 12 years on a relatively show string budget when you consider Unreal engine has had billions spent on it over the last 25+ years. If only they could have finished a game during that time. -.-

Actually they switched from cry to making their own based on lumberyard

@@Jokumlokum Not exactly friend. Lumberyards is a fork of the crytek engine, it was CIG who helped secure the sale of it to Amazon in return for 75 million dollars from Amazon to crytek to save them from bankruptcy, with CIG switching to the lumberyards fork via amazon as it was free to use without restriction once in the hands of Amazon. Worked out even better in the end as Amazon gave CIG the rights to name their own fork of the crytek>>lumberyards engine as Star Engine.

Good point, and I play NMS too! But how many NMS players don't also fit into the other three?

A lot of SC Orgs are in the situation we're in in that we have way more ship than crew, so people like you who aren't heavy into ships are actually highly sought after cause we need qualified crew (or will, all the more as soon as the cap ships start dropping). I'm a whale, but don't apologize! Your investment should reflect your confidence, and if it's low thats okay. We all gotta hold CIG's feet to the fire because the community is also their investors.

@@expressmangaming650 Groovy - once I get my rig set up I'll venture into being part of a crew - You really don't want me gunning & piloting at the same time, and I prefer engineering and background support.

Put some paragraphs into your writing, Son!

I think they could have exploration with Stanton alone, depending on how they went about it. Imagine stuff hiding out in dark space 1+AU outside of the ring of Stanton planets... But yes to your overall point that more systems make for more natural exploration gameplay.

@@expressmangaming650 Just 4 more systems with planets that have hardly any poi. That would do wonders.

Yeah I could have done both but it would make for a longer vid. Maybe soon.

My brain pictured a car alarm "tweep tweep" as you walked away from the Titan holding your key fob.

I liked it, but its not "fighting" in a direct sense, it's systems management. I think EVE does a good job of making you feel like 'this is really what space combat could feel like 20,000 years in the future. And yeah that is a bit more boring because its not "world war II in space" like SC and a lot of sci fi games are. Its hard in SC sometimes because its supposed to be almost 1000 years in the future but we have technology *today* that is more advanced than what is in SC. Both can be fun, but we gotta call them what they are. And... almost anything is fun when you're winning.

SC does the same but at least they're working towards that kind of gameplay.

@@expressmangaming650 With SC it was more of a consequence of development vs intentional. A long time ago they had started a tutorial module in AC but it added tech debt and had to be updated every time they changed the game. It got scrubbed for later once the game was more realized and we will get a story as a bonus. In EvE Beta and 1.0 the tutorial was minimal to explain the UI and controls and quickly lead you to a station and dumps you off saying good luck. Character creation had some lore you immediately forgot because it seems to not matter. NPE was a top complaint with beta testers. Every time they polled the players about what needed to improve through the years NPE was always high in the list. One thing EvE did fairly well was tools to manage reputation and standing and I liked the security rating system. The corporation, alliance, and fleet stuff evolved over time but was functional enough early on.

For real, I deal with economics and spreadsheets at work, I don't want to do it in my free time too.

LMAO. seeing this comment after a day with 30k's every 20 minutes made me chuckle quite hard.

ROFL "Its a feature, not a bug."

Poi=locations

Most of them don't show up on the map and need to be found. There are caves, derelict outposts, crashed ships with bandits living in them.

@@fnunez But 1000 of them? There's only 4 planets and what, 12 to 16 moons? A crashed ship with loot or an outpost with pirates at it I'd call a POI, but a cluster of minable rocks or a building you can't enter with no loot would be streching the definition a lot and would mean that even Starfield has 10's or 100's of thousands of POI's. Star Citizen's always had a large world with very sparse content because they want to hand craft everything and there's just not enough time to craft huge amounts of content.

It takes some effort to compare apples to apples. I've played SC for years and years and there are still a number of sites I haven't explored. Just a few months ago I made myself visit the lesser traveled Lagrange stations in Stanton. Have you been to the new Distribution Centers? When I'm exploring in EVE, I enter a system, find some open space to hide in, do a scan, decide what I want to do about what I find, and usually leave. And the planets are just a JPEG ball with some resource points designated on them. My point being, any given single system has very little interest. I can exhaust it in minutes. But again... years of exploring Stanton and I still don't feel like I've really wrapped my head around it all.

Quality has a quantity of it's own.

You're either deliberately misinterpreting the plan they laid out, or you got your info from someone who is. As said in this video, it's a matter of how detailed the setting is... thousands of POI across five systems is better than hundreds of systems with five POI each. But fair enough, it is *literally* true that they're doing less systems than they originally envisioned. Calling it a "story game" instead of a sandbox, on the other hand, is literally untrue. They were extremely clear that the game is still first and foremost open ended. They spent a lot of time painting a picture of what that open endedness would look like. They were also very clear that they are providing an optional story line specifically to *facilitate* the sandbox by providing a framework for new players to be introduced to the game. Nothing about the announcement implied the story would be a large part of the play experience, or that they expected it to be anyone's "endgame" - in fact, the only reward they mentioned you getting from it is something that helps as a jumping off point for expanding into new open ended gameplay. You don't have to like the picture they painted. But don't straight up lie about it.

Yeah I'm not big on the "story game" thing but I hope at most it will be like Red Dead Online where there are a few initial stories to get though but it can be done in one sitting.

Its hilarious. Fortunately I had mostly nice FCs.