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thats one chunky snare

Looking at this in 2024 and I am considering the Gretsch mighty mini this could sell it to me ‘cause I have short legs and man spreading around a big snare is a bit uncomfortable 😂

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That sounds great!

That was a sick little fill thing at the beginning. I need to learn that one

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great video, but the intro was really long for shorts, and most people lose their interest after like 2 seconds. So maybe start with, this is wonderwall with just drums, then like cu tinto the talking so they have something to stay for.

Love it!

That’s crazy

18, 19, And 20, best sizes.

Cool!!

If you’re so sure that 16s suck, you sure didn’t explain why. Size often equals sustain and control.

That's so cool!

I know you're trying to get people's attention, but 16's don't suck and neither do 18's. We don't all do the same thing, because that WOULD suck!

This sounds great but when you listen to metal albums it’s sounds tinny, 🎉😂

My problem with his assertions are "The Sounds of Today" are what will always be. Trends shift back and forth. Today it's all about a 4 piece kit and a crash able ride plus one crash ( which I appreciate mind you because I like simplicity and a small footprint) but in 20 years everyone might want the Neil Peart setup again. This guy comes off as a bit didactic to me as if his opinion is The Opinion. I get his point but his way of seeing things is one way, not The Way.

Ugh… I wish we wouldn’t fall into the trap of “this is what it should be”. I’m a fan of trashier, faster crashes and rides, and always 14” K light hats with a small amount of tape on top and bottom. And yes, you always need a splash and a china! There I said it. And don’t be afraid to ride the bell or throw in some double pedal - God loves these things! Serve the lord, serve the song, and tell everyone else to shove it! God made us different for a reason ;)

I have always used a 14 inch with 18 crashes. But if could only take one always need at least a 18 inch for me something thin

Musiq21 is absolutely right. this person is limited in his diverse knowledge of church/ worship music culture. he doesn't mean it, but he is misleading because he is not experienced enough to know that larger cymbals in church are a relatively new occurence and is based on copy cat syndrome just as all mega churches has a keyboard player that uses at least 1 red Nord keyboard. There is no "worship cymbal". be careful of who you isten to and the logic they implore.

Yes and no. There are so many kinds of crashes which come in all sizes. I have 18" crashes but I also have a 19" and 20" crash/ride. As general rule, I agree with you. I played rock on the 60's and switched to jazz in the 70's. Jazz also allows crashing with the tips of the sticks.

I think 16" crashs work well for accent stuff, like a splash cymbal.

So, is it better a 17" or 18" Crash?

1:03 So, in jazz or Dixieland fits?

Saying all 16" crashes is pretty harsh 😅 Lots of great 16" crashes out there. Sometimes an 18 is too big for smaller acoustic or club gigs. Just my opinion as you have yours.

Bro everyone knew already🙄

So cool!!

Hahaha "i hope i didn't offend you". What a loser you are!

I use Heartbeat cymbals and have used in contemporary music as well as gospel style music. I use 20 inch Custom crash, 22 Studio crash, 15 inch custom hats, 10 inch studio splash, smack stack, and a 24 inch Custom Dry ride. I also have a 24 inch Custom ride that is heavier to allow me the option for using the bell of the ride more for that gospel style music. I even crash on it some.

I never understand the concept about "Worship Cymbals". I think it's just a marketing term as "Worship Cymbals" are just like any other cymbals I think that are out there. Personally, I'm still a fan of Zildjian Custom A cymbals because I think they are the most "musical" of cymbals. Bright, cutting through the mix without hanging around all day. Quick, fast, bright, musical.But I'm actually playing Sabian HHX and AAX cymbals with a Zildjian K dark dry ride. And gotta say Sabian does make nice cymbals. This is the first time to not play Zildjian custom A cymbals, and the Sabien cymbals sound pretty good too. I think I like the AAX cymbals the best. B20 bronze only way to go!

The one thing is cost, if I had all the money in the world I’d get heartbeat but I have to go for the cheap ones that have the right sound

We are worship drummers at Red and make cymbals for worship alongside our friends at Vertical Drum Co. in Oregon who make incredible drums for worship.

If instagram drum clips is what you mean by contemporary music, then yes they’re not that in vogue. But 16” have their place when you’re sharing the sonic space with, you know, other instruments. A good crash can be quick, bright, not complex. But I deffo would say: Sabian cymbals ‘suck’.

I like having a 16" for a low volume rock or pop situation, as I feel like I can still play it quite naturally without the volume getting out of control. That's kind of it for me though - I'll use either a 17" and an 18", or two 18" for pretty much everything else.

Paiste 2002 thin crash 16" is the best sounding crash EVER!!!

Well I guess it can also depend on how big your Ride cymbal is, well in my case it's a 19" Zildjian Sweet Ride, and with it I took to have on my left side (hihat side) another Zildjian 18" Medium Crash. And then at last I bought me the CRASH Cymbal and that was naturally a Zildijan 18" (like you said) Thin Crash. But as soon as I put it up on my right side over my beautiful Yamaha floor toms 14 & 16" they basically sounded the same :( Well what had happened in the mean while I went and saw the great Peter Erskitin play here in Iceland with Jakob Magnusson and after the concert I went up on the state to take a better look what Cymbals mr. Erskertin was using (since all of them sounded to good and especially his Craser! and guess what it was? A 16 inch Zildjian Sweet Crash!And on Monday morning I took my Think A Crash and swapped it for that K Sweet Crash and there I heard and fellt the right tone! But that's just mine view on Crash cymbals @ the age of 70 (LoL) and still love's to bang my drums and punch the Cymbals

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0:15 Even most modern metal players. You mean just Rock players in general, not just metal.

16" is only good for hi hats

I like 18's and 19's more than 16's. Maybe it's because I started with a cheap pack with a 16 included, but still

Bro... I say this exactly!! I have bought packs and then sell the 16"s because I end up not using them for anything that I actually do! The 18? is by far the best and most versatile!

I agree with what you say my friend.. 100%!! I play a big set of Bright Zildjian A-Customs live and they work great in the studio as well... BUT... I recently switched to bigger cymbals and went with the Sabian HHX Complex Series Performance pack (Did a review as well) HOLY S*#*! THE BEST CYMBALS EVER!! Also gave me the options live that you talk about. I take those on the shows that are not as loud music or big venues and they totally make ALL the difference in the world as far as mixing in well with vocals and guitars! Good information! I hope to see you acquire more of that line in the future! I know that i will continue to build that line as well. I also added a 10" Splash that sounds amazing. Like another commentor said as well, i still run two Evolutions to give contrast. Keep doing a great job and building your channel! New sub here! Keep on Drumming!!

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I like my crashes to be rich, and full sounding. My Sabian 18" HHX Complex Thin Crash (that's a real mouthful to say) is perfect, especially for my more minimalistic setups. I also have a 19" AAX Thin Crash that's really great too. I think it really depends on how the cymbal is made, the thing those two crashes have in common in that the bells are unlathed, so it gives them a bit more aggression without having to be so thick that you need to really lay into it to get a decent sound out of it.

So your advice is follow the herd with your big hats… And nobody making “contemporary” music is using 16” crashes? Please…