- 94
- 134 376
Ronin Rescue
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2019
Ronin Rescue is a rescue training and service provider working worldwide. www.roninrescue.com
Ronin Rescue GRIMP Japan 2023 Episode 2
This is episode 2 of 2 of the "rookie" Ronin GRIMP Team competing in Japan in Feb 2023. This episode covers all of the scenarios and the highs and lows that go with competing, especially for the first time.
มุมมอง: 8 809
วีดีโอ
The “rookie” team at GRIMP Japan. Episode 1
มุมมอง 3Kปีที่แล้ว
Ronin at GRIMP Japan Back in the pre-COVID days of 2019, Ronin Rescue competed at GRIMP Japan. It was the team’s last competition prior to the world shutting down. Post COVID, the “competition” team did one more run together in Seville (Rescue Great Day 2022) and then a decision was made. We were placing well. Regular top 10 and even a handful of top 5 finishes. But only a select group of Ronin...
Croll to croll with explanation.
มุมมอง 2.5Kปีที่แล้ว
Some systems such as certain scenarios with SRT or in a two rope system if you have a safety line failure (slack safety line touches something hot in industry??) could require rescue from the tension line. Really a worse case scenario. #grimp
Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Seasons Greetings from the Rescue Community around the world.
มุมมอง 107ปีที่แล้ว
A Happy Holidays greeting from the rescue community worldwide.
Redundancy in rope rescue systems
มุมมอง 2.3K2 ปีที่แล้ว
There is redundancy and fail safe in rope rescue systems. In this video we look at how this affects our rigging.
Ronin Quick Clip - Spanned Anchors
มุมมอง 2.8K3 ปีที่แล้ว
In this Ronin quick clip, Kevin discusses Spanned Anchors. He talks about usage, angles and the requirement to ensure the system is loaded prior to measuring the angles to ascertain loads on the anchors.
Dodging a tree
มุมมอง 5704 ปีที่แล้ว
Doing a manual offset (deflection) to get a package around a tree on a sloping highline in GRIMP 2013
10,000 foot comparison
มุมมอง 7084 ปีที่แล้ว
Just a quick 10,000 foot view of the MPD, Maestro, Clutch and Sirius.
Quick review of Chafe Pro edge pro
มุมมอง 3054 ปีที่แล้ว
We do a very quick review of some of the Chafe Pro Edge pro items.
Double loop 8 with a front 8 follow through
มุมมอง 8904 ปีที่แล้ว
Just one of many ways to tie an anchor. This method uses the “bunny ears” or double loop figure 8 (common in rope access) however adds a forward figure 8 follow through for anchoring options.
The realities of self equalizing anchors
มุมมอง 5K4 ปีที่แล้ว
The realities of self equalizing anchors
Ronin Demonstration of Technique - Pick Offs
มุมมอง 2K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Ronin Demonstration of Technique - Pick Offs
Ronin - Tensioned Lines and Spanned Anchors - Demo of Technique
มุมมอง 4.8K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Ronin - Tensioned Lines and Spanned Anchors - Demo of Technique
Online demo of Technique for Skate Blocks
มุมมอง 5K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Online demo of Technique for Skate Blocks
Loving all these test🤙
I would like to argue that you cannot feed a rope through the clutch in a twin tension systems fast enough to deploy the ASAP. I think using the ASAPs with a twin tension system is a waste of equipment. If you can feed it fast enough then you have the ropes incredibly overloaded.
What hard hat use Allen?
Team Wendy
This is such a cool video!! Great quality and I love the story being told and that you show everything going on. Thank you for putting the time in in putting this together together
Great job guys. I had fun watching both of the Grimp Days Japan as a beginner SAR volunteer. Please keep go on!!!
Well done guys.
Well done everyone! Great film.
Great work guys!! Thank you for the honesty in the video and not editing out the challenges and opportunities of a new team and difficult scenarios. Keep it up!!
Excellent video. Congrats to your team and all the hard work.
Great video. It shows not only the successes but the challenging moments. Having taken a class with a couple of them I definitely can appreciate the time involved to compete at this level. Great job guys!,
Lots of work!
intense!
Waiting for episode 2
A solution would be helpful
this is crazy u guys are the bomb
pleasee make some Y on control sling
Yeah a common tag line with bridle and a ground guy would help with control. Still a great job though.
insane
What about the gathering plate 😂 jk
what about the gloves?
I don’t follow. Are you asking why he is not wearing gloves? Many organizations only mandate gloves on moving ropes, some don’t mandate gloves while doing personal access on ropes, others do.
What was the thought behind this?
Excuse me. Is aramid good for the Prusik cord used for span anchors? Can I use something other than aramid?
for the tension line version, could you use a truckers hitch or a voodoo?
Have you tested failing the track line at various points of travel? It stands to reason that at some point down the track line the skateblock would do nothing to prevent the load from decking. I ask because I did some silly little testing in my garage and came up with the idea that you cannot rely on the skate block when doing a greater horizontal movement than the height of the skate block. Rough guesstimate.
Are the handles rated? Just curious
Good question. We look at it like this. When you lift a SKED with a human in it, you pick it up by the handles. Regardless of if that is your hand or a carabiner in the handle, the weight in the SKED didn't change....
?
a lot of words
On your next drill recommend you practice not laying the patient flat after rescue due to suspension trauma. I usually teach pickoff using a small plate on the mainline so that rescuer can detach from plate once they reach ground and leave patient on mainline sitting up.
There are some different thoughts regarding this (lay down vs stay on rope) currently in the medical community. We are currently following the down and off rope / flat as fast as possible.
@@roninrescue6011 I will be presenting on post fall rescue at multiple locations. Can you point me to the medical community who says laying the patient flat is acceptable when suspension trauma is suspected. I want to update my material. Thx J
@@jayjamali2485 www.jems.com/operations/rescue-vehicle-extrication/redefining-the-diagnosis-and-treatment-of-suspension-trauma/
@@jayjamali2485 www.wemjournal.org/article/S1080-6032(20)30070-3/fulltext
I would really like to know which progress capture devices you are using in this setup?
Cmc clutch
@@911jasonmoore7 Thank you for your answer, it looks smaller then the petzl maestro. I like the clicking sound, I'm a mountanbiker and it reminds me of a freehub.
Is real capture by Asap lock or stop with ascender?
Loaded versus unloaded, makes it problematic in a real life rescue condition does it not? Do we have that kind of time etc?
Excellent, very well explained and edited. Stay safe, Jim.
I am not sure why it is being done this way. This is not a recommended method due to the extreme load being placed on the ropes due to haul angles and there is no redundancy if any of the lines break there will be a huge swing fall.
Hello Jay, I don't see anything wrong with this. Looks to me they are using a TTRSystem, so there is redundancy. The angles are not that bad (seem to be going from 120 to 150-ish), and up to 160 is okay if you think about it. What would you propose? Using a tension line reeve system? Then you get the same or even bigger angles. And the edge transition will be even harder as well. K I S S is always a good idea if you know what you are doing😉
@@TheRopeAccessChannel Thx for the reply. I do not see the redundancy. I only see one line which if it breaks the load will fall. I see no safety line. Thx J. When I teach this we have a seperate line that acts as safety if mainline breaks.
@@jayjamali2485 I just realized your comment was already a year old. I see four ropes in play, two from each side. It looks like a cross haul with a twin tension on both sides. All ropes seem to be loaded. I completely agree with you that if it is one rope to each side that we are not seeing a best practice example. If it’s doubled up it’s a good setup.
Thank you for the solid info. Have you tested it for forces when the load is off center?
We have. However it’s a rabbit hole! Depending on rope in service on each side of the focal point, angle, etc the results change. We have also tested it in a TTRS config with a focal point for each device and enough room between for an operator to work. Generally it does not get worse....
@@roninrescue6011 Thank You. I tried this with some back yard testing but I didnt have enough load cells.
In a real life rescue situation, you can't screw into a wooden board so bad example in my opinion for a training video. Back ties are interesting though
I don’t follow. I work FD as well and we will anchor into the ground whenever we have to. Hilti, pickets, screws. What ever it takes to secure it.
Pickets make more sense, but it be more informative so show a lashing technique but I'm not knocking this just think screws are not exaclty something u can trust, building material can be rotten or damaged, I am on FD as well. Pickets or lashes is a safer bet than house hold screws
@@LawnGeeks Agreed. We have a tendency to try concrete anchors if possible but noted. We will try to get a short clip in on lashing.
Your biggest fallacy is you comment on how it is to move when it is weighted. But that was never the point. It is the ability to move and track as the climber moves. There a probable a lot of falacies in the climbing world. One being in using limiting knots in dyneemia slings. The knot severely decreases the slings strength.
I think their point it that the sliding X sells as 50/50 automatic load distribution while it's not exactly the case. However I'm definitely with you, all that fuss and it's just about body weight statically loaded. Nobody cares honestly, it will hold just fine. I personally prefer a quad simply because of the convenience of not getting pulled over when my partners moves
Great protection!! 👌
13:3
Do you have the results of this test documented somewhere? I’d love to read more on it. I love the ASAP but have gotten into conversations with some TRT instructors about it not being NFPA approved. However, in some independent test, I have seen this device meet and pass drop test criteria and certain city FDs are now incorporating this into their belay set ups. One main point of contention from anti-ASAPers I’ve talked to is the teeth and their effect on the rope during a shock load. I personally feel safe using this for a rescue but I’d love to do more research and see what you have to say about it.
Johnson Roast We have done some more testing with the ASAP. We will be releasing this info closer to ITRS in Nov.
What multipoint anchors would y’all recommend in place of the sliding x?
Nice video, no talking and just shows the crux moves. Is that a double butterfly for the collection point knot?
Qual sistema seria esse?
Es un sistema de doble tensión son dos cmc clutch y en cada uno esta armado un 5:1 con dos cambios de dirección
Where can I read up more on span anchors, a cursory look through the bc field guide I couldn’t find much
pro tip: you can watch series at flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Bobby Zachary yea, been using flixzone for years myself =)
I can't say enough great things about you guys. Great topics with interesting points of instruction and input. Had to watch the Croll bump a few times. Quick question, does the technique change when performing this with two large individuals? I'm a weightlifter coming in at 240 pounds. I will be practicing this technique on another rope access tech who weighs about 220 pound. Appreciate you all!
Paul Cole Biggest trick is rocking the patient. Two people around the same size or rescuer larger than patient - no problem. Get your knees under the patients bum and rock them up.
Nice demonstration,keep posting.
Well done gents... I'll be out in the yard tomorrow practicing the croll bump.
Awesome! #goals
👍
God job
cek my video. caving in indonesia
Keep uploading videos!