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Thank you!

Yes, in this video everything else is stock.

That's the Garmin Catalyst

Thanks. Other folks also overheated with PWR track radiator. Check (C&R is the same as PWR): www.civicx.com/forum/threads/overheating-at-track-let-me-try-this-again.66021/ and th-cam.com/video/PH-9bGTRJNA/w-d-xo.html These heating mods did improve, but to be frank, not by a whole much. Recently I went to the track and the temp gauge was pegged even in high 70's !! I think I need more mods, especially an oil cooler.

Unfortunately overheating can't be fully solved on the FK8/FL5 platform. You can spend a lot of money to just mitigate it.

@@mowjinkaljibal I think they solved the problem on the fl5

@@DeezVideoPictures I wish, but not really. Check these two cars videos. One overheated badly in stock, non-tuned engine in low ambient 70's temps in the Nurburgring (got to 300 oil temp), and the other 300+ oil temp, the coolant line of the turbo popped out and destroyed the turbo: th-cam.com/video/wrRiVWZv5Zo/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/otMktVfGNxw/w-d-xo.html and the result: th-cam.com/video/cJ3UoV-4bCM/w-d-xo.html

@@mowjinkaljibal dayummm that’s sucks

Hopefully the weather cools down by then.

@@mowjinkaljibal Hope to track with you someday brother. Be safe out there

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Yeah I still have ways to go to become competent at this track. On my 3rd outing, I hit 1:33.7. But my car with its latest mods is capable of sub-30. th-cam.com/video/bLS5izfBOxI/w-d-xo.html

Thanks Steve! Not as fast as your 1:28 🙂

Thanks Jeff! I'm also suffering from understeer at high speeds. Still figuring out the right balance.

@@mowjinkaljibal High speed understeer will be aero balance. I would adjust low speed mechanical grip first and see how your high speed balance is impacted, and then play with your aero (wing AOA) at the track to fine tune your high speed. My wing AOA was pretty much at a negative angle at one point because I didn't have enough front aero since that's limited by class rules.

@@Jepps_CTR Very true. Understeering got worse after installing the GT-250. I adjusted the AoA to zero, and I still have understeer. I just installed JRZ RS Pro coilovers to add more camber upfront (now 3.8 vs 3.3 before). We'll see how much that solves the problem. If not, I'm going to upgrade to Racebred 4" vs existing 3".

Yeah it's a matter of time before I go your route and install an aux radiator. Turn 8 at Big Willow is very bouncy.

@@mowjinkaljibal definitely worth it! Lmk if you have any questions 🤘

Agreed, it's too big even for a 3" Racebred splitter. But I like the stability. So I'm upgrading to a 4" splitter and we'll see how it goes.

Thank you!

Yes, earlier in the day, there was a big pile of sand at Turn 10. What you see here is what's left of it.

@mowjinkaljibal can see the front tyres are struggling for grip and understeers. Would RWD performing better in this track?

@@doublerfanatic5641 Yes, you can use power on the rear wheels to compensate for understeer.

I was initially against it, but there are empirical tests that show it actually increases turbo efficiency and reduces engine bay heat soak. But I agree that it must affect turbo longevity. If you look at modern turbo diesel engine designs (and diesel generates a lot of heat), they use hard-lagged insulation strategically placed on the turbo and other parts. There are insulations to keep the heat from transferring out (turbo shield) and insulations to protect the part or its content from transferring heat in (water pipe shield).

@@mowjinkaljibal a shield would be different. In fact, I have seen early on at the civicx forums when someone tried the turbo blanket, and removed the oem heat shield. They had data on IAT and it was reading high. He decided to find a way to mount the OEM heat shield back and the IAT returned to normal. Which led me down a road of understanding that venting is important, but you need a separation as well to keep other components from absorbing. Heat shield accomplishes both by giving space to vent and shielding other components. Reason why engine bay heat is hotter with shield is because the heat has to go somewhere, as opposed to a blanket which most of that energy is kept within and can only radiate out of the radiator (over heat energy of the system without oil cooler). I have seen only a few people accomplish heat regulation of the type R. Some involved the twin Coolers from Hong Kong. Another is from Fatherpain on CivicX There is another guy right now I’m observing utilizing twin radiators. Using CR track, and another radiator in front of it (where front mount oil coolers would be, but instead be a coolant radiator)

@@LoveLikeaHurricane I'm interested in @vroomn_fk8 solution (two aux radiators + two oil coolers). www.civicx.com/forum/threads/grimace-build-thread-lap-time-modification-tracking.43196/page-13#post-1211635

@@mowjinkaljibal I'm hoping the 2nd radiator would have a big impact as when pared with vented hood, it makes the most continual surface area and the most available area to vent out of (compared to a high pressure zone of a wheel well like most oil cooler options)

@@LoveLikeaHurricane Ultimately it will need both oil coolers and aux radiators, may be multiple of them. Latest reports from the FL5 indicate it has as much of an overheating problem as the FK8. After dumping $$$$ on cooling mods, and not seeing the problem fundamentally solved (will be demonstrated in part II of this video), I'm not surprised that Honda didn't solve much of the problem with the small cooling mods of the FL5. The FK8/FL5 platform needs radical redesign, like the v-mounted setup of the TCR (not street legal without a crash bar).

Thanks Steve, likewise enjoyed the chase.

Thanks Brandon! Likewise looking forward to your videos.

Thank you! 🙏

Thanks, this and there are more options I'm going to try. I have coilerovers on order. That will allow me to add more camber at the front and have stiffer springs at the rear. The Type R is a relatively heavy car and likes a lot of camber in the front. I'll also try a staggered setup (295/275) at one point.

Yeah dehydration is a real thing at the track. I drink a bottle of water with a hydration pack almost every session.

This was recorded on the phone, whose microphone suppresses louder sounds. it's MUCH louder in person.

Not yet, one day though, and I'll post the link in the channel description. If time allows, I may publish some videos that document some aspects of the build, why I chose them, and my experience so far.

Too many to list, but this video's description lists the latest track mods: th-cam.com/video/GmGiuaJ7LbY/w-d-xo.html

Nice! Trying to keep up with you guys helped me achieve my first Sub-2 🙂

Yeah those hi-revving GT3's sound like Formula 1 cars. They were running 1:55 lap times.

In this video and the previous one I"m using GoPro Hero 11 Black. I'm mounting through an extension arm attached to the dome light.

On the Mac, I use Telemetry Overlay. For Windows there many options, such as DashWare.

Thanks! I have the RV6 Solid Front Compliance Mount V2 installed, which functions the same as the Whiteline ALK. I also added the Spoon Zero Bump Steer kit (needed for lowered cars).

Nice mods man. Well may be time for more aero bits in the front, canards and bigger splitter with some air channel !

@@FurtznFuriouz Thanks. I'm seriously considering coilovers now, which would give me more camber and allow me to get bigger wheels in the front and run a staggered set up.

@@mowjinkaljibal So I guess you're on lowering springs then? Swifts?

@@goosedizon Yes Swift Spec-R lowering springs.

It's 3.3 front and 2.7 rear.

On this one they were the Falken Azenis RT660

@@mowjinkaljibal have you upgraded since or how did you like these? You were posting some good lap times

@@bobbynochill Yes, I've been using recently the Potenza RE-71RS. Grips better, lasts longer, and you can do true tire rotation (they're non directional).

Thanks for the feedback. I'm running RE71-RS 275 square setup, 35 psi hot front and rear. Temps on this day were in the high 50's to low 60's, so no overheating issues at all. I have many cooling mods at this point: 1) PWR Race Radiator, 2) Dream Automotive hard lagged turbo shield, oil return, water pipe, 3) Spoon Thermostat, 4) Varis vented hood, 5) J's open grill, 6) VP Cool Down and Stay Frosty radiator fluids. We'll see how they do on a hot day.

Very nice Sam3. Didn’t realize you added the Dream Automotive hard lagged shield and OEM water pipe to your setup. Excellent choices. Hoping to get out there with you guys soon

@@mowjinkaljibalI Thank you for the reply. Good cooling mods. Sounds like a good setup. I wish we had the RE71 in the EU. Have u done all the cooling mods in one go? Any mod you would say made the biggest difference in cooling? Any gauges for the temps of water and oil?

@@tomconnor7667 Following your lead :-) Yeah now that you have a fresh new set of tires, let's go!

@@VxO4fame All recent, and since then, haven't had a really hot day. We'll see.

Overall, the FL5 is a more evolved and refined car.

Yes, and too much trail braking on Sunrise.

@@mowjinkaljibal Well, that's good. At least the oversteer is driver-mod related. At the understeer can be managed by the driver paying a little attention to the tire limit, until you're able to upgrade the car to carry more speed.