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Interesting take

Hahah good

it’s not the fault of js, it can be very fast, but rather inefficient programming and carelessness

Right answer, but I'd disagree on the reason. JavaScript became the all-in-one hammer to "everything is a nail" because there are so many (cheap) programmers who are only trained in cobbling together JS frameworks to build web-apps. Instead of hiring or training programmers to more suitable tech, which would eventually become expensive, they just try to rework every problem-domain as a matter of "add more JS frameworks". You are seeing similar now with Python, which is a decent enough language for what it started as (a more beginner-friendly interpreted wrapper for Fortran). But now you've got students learning Python and companies trying to rewrite everything to accept Python scripting, no matter the impact on performance or requirements mismatch. There's also the classic issue of poorly understood problems creating poor software - genAI cannot help with that.

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Even worse, they're trained off of public repos, blogs, and tutorials - it's why JS frameworks and beginner or cheap-contractor web-apps are overrepresented in the languages it's "good" at. When he said the models are good at SQL, I laughed in anything more complex than "SELECT * FROM table".

Because your memory is of lower calibre and your ram is quickly losing supremacy. The hubris of people who dont use claude to code is INSANE

@@GoodBaleadaMusic I use Claude, actually. Claude is great, but it's not perfect. I have some projects I'm working where I had to fix plenty of code that Claude did for me. Even Claude is still trained by the information it finds on the internet. It happens to be better at coding than the other LLMs. But train it on garbage code, and you will get garbage code. Garbage in, garbage out. And try any LLM with a more obscure language or newer language like Red or Nushell. You're not going to have a good time.

@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb That's why we're talking about two different things. I don't even engage with people who have a conversation about these LLMs working alone without us. But people insist on having that conversation when 0% of humans or corporations do that. 95% of the activity and the advancement and the improvement and the reduction of workforces are going to be in instances where we are working in conjunction with this. But for some reason you people keep having this fake conversation of a fake reality that is not being deployed at all. That's why corporations don't need most of you. Your value was only what an LLM can now provide. Also you are using these things wrong. It sounds like you make a big prompt and then you get a result and then you get mad at the result. The first result is for idiots. You then ask it to criticize its response. And then you get something good. And then you take that good thing to a blank slate and then you ask that blank slate how good it is. This is the workflow. Prompt goes into chat GTP chat GTP creates it with no complaints. It sucks. Then you take it over to Claude and then Claude improves it up until a point where you need access to time real information. Now you can take it back to chat GTP. But now we can take it to Gemini studio and that brings a third player into the game. These workflows are changing every 72 hours. And you people are smug and hubristic and speaking from moments of time that expire before you press enter. Wake the fuck up

so, why is genZ is still bad at everything, though?

@@strigoiu13 genZ does not want to become slaves to corpos for laughable money. also, learn to english.

lol I’m Gen X, not a boomer I’ve been in tech for decades, written several books, worked for big tech from Apple to Symantec, ran a consulting business which I sold, etc etc etc… But you do you 😂

That's the trick, ain't it? I mean, try working out how you might explain the 40s to someone in 1939, etc etc etc. I'm thinking my next few videos are going to be book reviews of some of the books that explain the world... maybe also kick up my filming game a bit, get out of my office ftw... :)

The original title idea I had was "If AI/LLMs are so great, why does so much software suck?" but didn't want to annoy YT etc lol

My two cents - you are, way, way, way ahead of most devs & esp most corporate dev. Hope you are documenting/putting out your own vids on setting this stuff up... :)

@ChangeNode funnily enough, I'm heavily documenting, but I've only posted a couple vids. A few people have told me what you just said, so I'm going to ramp up my video deployment pipeline very shortly.

@@TreeLuvBurdpu good luck! My two cents FWIW, Camtasia works pretty well for that kind of tech material, or just get a good screen recorder and use DaVinci Resolve. It's about lights, not the camera. Absolutely most important - get a decent mic. :)

@ChangeNode I've just been using ClimpChamp and my stupid Audio Technica ATR2100-USB broke. Going to check out what you mentioned

Rust is useless for me as I need to create UB in my code all the time and branching into UB under control of the developer is not a capability that rust possesses. It is funny how people have such tunnel vision and think that what is bad for their software is bad for everyone's software. Being able to create UB on demand is a critical capability in security (both offensive and defensive).

You don't think big enough - did you see the prompt I gave it at 1:17 th-cam.com/video/yoz9C2a30rM/w-d-xo.html Might need to watch it on a desktop / 4k to see it lol

@@ChangeNode my point is simple : AI is conceptually a dead end. AI only works when the actual work is done before and publicly available to be fed to the model. But if AI is fed by the code people copy/paste from AI tool, what will be the value of AI then ? None. Sure you can bootstrap things with AI, but it’s only because AI databases was fed up and warm up in advance. To finish, in domain of pure functional programming languages where common programming patterns keep appearing, do you really need AI to bootstrap anything for you juste because you are lazy ? No. I’ve programming for a while now, and then come the promise of AI that anything can be built by AI (it’s not me who bring the hype but the Actual AI companies). With less lazy and more smart people, AI hype will wane.

FWIW I have gotten much better results writing x-plat good quality stuff w/SvelteKit & Capacitor/Tauri than say the JDK or .NET over the last year. async/await, write native stuff in C or Rust as needed FTW. React is a foot gun. I've gotten decent perf out of pretty much everything from Unity to whatever, but ya have to profile regardless. I think that part of the problem is junior folks ("let's grab the front end JS guy and have him write backend") is the real issue, which in turn is non-technical management making stack decisions.

The Wright brothers analogy is accurate. We have only just crossed the chasm required to build AI systems, and they are as you said, primitive. Now comes a time of refinement, and implementation, standardization, and deployment. It will take a while before the robots eat us, but they are certainly hungry.

Humans are insane. Every programmer uses Claude. WHAT WORLD DO YOU ALL LIVE IN?????

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My toaster coils shorted out therefore no airliners can take off.

@@newvocabulary th-cam.com/video/vLm6oTCFcxQ/w-d-xo.html

They fundamentally can't understand anything. AI is a perfect representation of the wisdom of crowds. No individual portion of an AI black box understands what it's being told. It just has so many different data points that can come to the most average representation of what an acceptable answer to what it's been given would be. But it has no understanding of any of the concepts that it's saying out loud. The fact that it learned how to sound sentient, far sooner than it actually has any form of understanding, means that things like the Turing test no longer work to represent actual understanding.

However, they're currently building a dataset from people attempting to code with this that might give it the necessary data to replicate programmer reasoning. If a lemon can run an llm, I'm not sure why they're floating the excuse that compute power is the limiting factor. It's more likely the quality data that's holding them back from 'AGI'. Hence they jam AI into everything, so they can get the needed logic and learning data from people.

@pagetvido1850 good luck;) most programmers live without reasoning) Most people doesn't have a clue how to live properly, if you think of it. Not a good source for learning

@@MysticCoder89 Imo it'll be if/when they become tutors in schools that they'll get a big boost. They'll just have to filter for switched on students, then they'll get some good data for that vector moving around its hyperspace. I use local only as I'd rather not train my replacement.

Yeah, it's interesting to see these obvious contradictions. I'll be more impressed the day that, say, OpenAI can use ChatGPT/tooling on top to generate something like their native macOS desktop client from prompts only. In a lot of ways this whole video is just calling out all that BS but in a nice, constructive criticism sort of way...

⁠@@ChangeNodemy point is exactly what you just stated here, instead of Mac OS desktop client you mentioned, I only mentioned an IDE like IntelliJ. But you came up with your bias telling me "I don’t think big enough". English sure it’s not my primary language, but my point was just AI cannot create what it’s not intentionally train for. That’s it. But the moment I wrote my comment I suspect you will come up with that bias, and this says a lot about you. Good luck.

He wants AI for the credits/bandwagon and a human for the blame.

The other thing that should not be forgotten is that the model (to call it AI is to collaborate with the hiccups, sorry, the hype), is going to generate the patterns that it saw in its training, and that means that the vast majority of those patterns were generated by the average (mediocre)

Who cares whether you can generate apps from prompts only. Of course you can't and of course that is irrelevant. Gpt is a tool, a very useful tool, that increases programmer productivity. I do some work that is beyond gpts capacity to assist and man, do I wish that were not the case and that it could assist in that work because when I am able to use it to assist (which is probably 80% of the time) it is fricken awesome.

It's a very weird process trying to "force" myself to use AIs more and more. eg I just used ChatGPT's native mobile client to take pics to help me solve a wiring issue for a dead dimmer, and also swap out the cartridge for a leaky shower head. It actually did a pretty good job at helping me troubleshoot both. TH-cam videos helped me get oriented, and then the feedback on the pics helped me trouble shoot a few specific things. Same with dev, beats the heck out of Google + StackOverflow, but nowhere near the hype curve.

Totally. I keep coming back to “you don’t know what you don’t know” as a big limiter. 💯❤️

Yeah, for some stuff like this esp w/smaller footprints it's more of a chatbot on the side sort of thing still.

i think everyone is missing the bigger picture. these tools won't replace coders, they will just devalue the job. i'm seeing it at my work - users are just creating things themselves that they would have previously raised a JIRA for. core system updates are still done by my team but even then the level of knowledge required is going down. the end state is we won't have applications, we're just have models so there won't be as much 'coding' as such.

@@pondeify Oh, absolutely - many of the comments boil down to "ai/llms are garbage bs" or "ai/llms will take over everything." I suspect the truth will be more like the combo of ui tools (eg bubble and similar) plus llms will "democratize" software dev kind of like how video game dev has already "democratized" - ie an absolute flood of stuff, incredibly hard to make any money due to the volume, but not a lot of sympathy for structural change because "you just have to grind harder" or whatever. Films are already a mess - my understanding is that marketing runs x2-x3 production costs. My guess is that if AI/LLMs/reverse diffusion systems get to where you can make an MCU class film for 20m-30m instead of 100m-200m, the bulk of the budgets will have to go to marketing just to break through. If everyone gets fired all at the same time I think we might have structural change, but the more likely is a slow roll over 5-10 years. :(

@@pondeify Its everything that took "the hard work" which was not creative. I've cost lawyers thousands just by preparing documents.

Do you use anything to help visual/understand the app? eg modeling tools for the schema, refactoring tools, structural analysis, etc? That's part of what I was touching on in the vid, that at some point the AI/LLM tooling should be able to talk to that kind of code comprehension tooling. Going to be interesting to see how that evolves...

Thanks! :)

I could do a +/- for the theoretical limits. Limits incoming: lack of data, something fundamental in LLM design, processing limits (some kind of geometric increase needed), energy limits, etc. Lack of limits: tons of low hanging optimizations still in progress, dedicated chip designs, new ways of collecting data (eg user observation), etc. Short answer is could go either way and so smart move is the (admittedly exhausting) have to consider both valid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@ChangeNode Great analysis!

I've been doing some wild things zero/one shotting over 1000's of prompts lately and getting exactly what I'm asking for. The following prompt just adds a detail. From making my own programming language -- even one that I can add new syntax to as its running, to a NES game, to a database migration tool, to things I do at work (a real time analytics dashboard), a gsheets like spreadsheet, and I'm not really struggling with any aspect of it other than the coding style it gives me isn't anything I resonate with. I have however figured out how to get it to generate code that exactly matches our project guidelines and coding style. There are really serious limits but there are ways to game it and get what you're asking.

I did a few other vids including one on pivot to robotics you might find interesting. WRT embedded it's a smaller pool of devs and a smaller pool of jobs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯