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What's even more annoying is he had arguably 4 of the best midfielders in the world. 3-4 of the best CBs in the world and for a period arguably one of the best left backs of the last 25 years. Him not getting england to any finals is criminal.

@@ed8519 👍 Couldn't agree more, mate...

Zidane also

And 70 too, when they were the closest team to Brazil. We seemed to have better defenders and midfielders back then, and forwards too, just better, but stronger players, with more nous.

@@nialloneill5097 1970 team was a better team than in 1966. For the Germany game - the absence of Gordon Banks (very obviously poisoned by persons unknown) and Alf Ramseys catastrophic substitution of Bobby Charlton cost England the game. It would be 12 years before England played another World Cup finals game.

@@michaelmuldowney8 I too thought 70 was a better team than 66, and the best England team that I have seen, but only started watching in around 65/66, and vague memories until 68 when I remember watching UTD in the Euorpean Cup final, when I was 9-10. Banks and More were amazing, as was Pele, but to have Edwards and Taylor in those team during the 60's, and early 70's, that would have been some team. Perhaps, they lost someone else in the tragic aur crash, but just those two players would have made an enormous difference. And I too recall that game with Germany, and it was clear that we were targeted by some kind of betting syndicate and gangsters during the build-up to, and within the actual tournament. I think Alf's mind had been tampered with too, when he took off Charlton, either that or it was the effects of the midday sun. Terrible decision, followed by calamity, and the preying mantis called Gerd Muller. Ohhh, broke my heart, what a final that would have been with Brazil, all the more so, if Taylor and Edwards were in the team. We lost our spine, especially with Banks and Charlton out, in that second half.

​@@nialloneill5097Tommy Taylor in 1970 would've been aged 38, highly unlikely he would've played in 66 too, but i agree in 58 & 62, every chance the babes would've monopolised the english squad and won honours, pegg & colman included

@@shaka7594 Yes, I know they were a really good team, which is perhaps partly why people were so gutted, especially with the loss of Big Dunc. Tragic!

A whole clan of them, including to of the best

And they gratefully did the chores, like cleaning boots, or the terraces. Every job was that way, you was young, a rookie, and learning the ropes, and needed to learn to not get ahead of yourself.

We cannot forget this loss and the history that comes with it, if it wasnt for the Munich disaster Manchester could have been even a bigger club today and England couldve been much more successfull, the talent lost that night especially with Duncan Edwards is priceless.

3 levels below Edwards, although a really good player. Edwards had it all, and could play in any position, a true great! I can think of great midfielders like Bell and Robson, Cantona up top, Moore, maybe best CD ever, and Beckenbauer, and the enigmatic Bestie, who I adored as a young lad, and grew up with his image...but although they did well at some elements of the game, none could come near this man, and he did it in every compartment. A TRUE GREAT. My father was a good player, but not much of a watcher, but he went to see Edwards, don't recall where, but recognised his greatness. He'd also played vs 3 of the other Babes who died. in local football, near the mining villages of the Don and Dearne area, which has churned out many professional and top class soccer and cricket players. He particularly liked Tommy Taylor.

utter nonsense

Agree wholeheartedly, and Brazil.

Pele would still have been Pele. A genius is a genius. All his talent and qualities as a player were undeniable. Now as to whether England would have won the world cup in 58, we can only speculate. We'll never know. Remember Wales had a chance too but their best player, John Charles, was injured. Duncan Edwards would likely have increased England's chances to win it if he was was fit and in form.

You'll never know. England got ruined by Hungary and technique wise Brazil were better. He had it all but it is a team game. We would have been without a doubt a far better team if that crash didn't happen. Tommy Taylor, Roger Byrne etc.

62 and 70 too, we were 2nd favourites behind Brazil. Interesting that Edwards trajectory would have run parallel to Pele's, and England's parallel to Brazil's, who won the World Cup in 1958, 1962, and 1970. Tommy Taylor in there too, as he was only 20 when he died, so these players could have played through to 1970, at least. How history could have been so very different, but for that fateful crash on the 6th Feb 1958. It's a real tearjerker, especially when you see the magnificence of Edwards, his god-like athleticism and skill, and the terrible injuries he endured, yet the way he clung to life for all those days with his mother at his bedside, to whom his last words were...'get me out of here and home for Saturday and the Wolves match'.

​@@nialloneill5097Tommy Taylor was born in 1932

@@shaka7594 Yes, my dad played vs him, and he was born in Jan 1933, and played in teams that were older than him, so sounds about right. 26 when he died. So he may have seen the next 2 World Cups up to 66, but not 70.

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1000 💯 🔥 fact, seedorf next to him and gattuso behind... joke, on cheat like galacticos

That's a bit harsh, he's only asking the questions

Mr Tecsom69 :- Great post 👍

This man was a supreme athlete, and you can see from the photos, the way he holds himself, he's extremely powerful. What is surprising is his excellent co-ordination for a big man, and his nimble feet, and deft touches. Hence, he could play any position to a really, really high standard. Even in 70 we had a great team I thought, and were close second favourites to Brazil, but with Edwards, we would have been Champions probably.

It’s a common theme isn’t it, anyone who saw him play will say they witnessed the greatest player of his age.

The Tragedy of 58 hit harder and much deeper due to his death. He was a superhero in the making. Imagine if Superman was taken out, the whole world would mourn him. So imagine now with the high social status, and media exposure players receive, what an impact that would have.

Add in the best centre back and the best centre forward you can think of, and you've got the full recipe.

@@justinchetham-strode5234 Agree, the man was an amazing defender and sweeper, yet he was prolific when attacking the opposition box, and scored plenty of goals.

Ya the 3 players he names were John Giles, Alan Ball and Zico

I recall seeing Ball's father, Alan, as a manager, I think of Halfax, when they played at Oakwell in around 68. They were a football family, and knew their stuff! Alan was one of the busiest players that I have seen, although a little lightweight, he covered ground really, really well, excellent football intelligence, and good short passer.

@@NotMe-el3hg I watched Giles and Ball many times, shame Utd let him go as I thought he was a little maestro at Leeds, and Busby apparently said it was his biggest mistake. Ball was a baller, not my favourite, but covered so much ground, lots of energy, intelligence, and movement, although Bell before a few of his knee injuries was at least a cut above, if not two. Man City were at their peak then, and it was a real shame he was injured badly.

Every chance that England would have won the world cup in 62 as well.

Can imagine him playing instead of Nobby Stiles in front of the back 4. Would have been devastating as a proper number 6 breaking up the play like Stiles did but also creating with his long and short passing game.

@@KryptonitetoallBS Interesting, as I recall 66, but I always thought 70 was our best team, and he would have been 33 I think, and part of 66 team too. So we could have won 3 World Cups in a row with him in, and to win World Cups, you usually need a super star as the icing on the cake, which has to consist of a very good team too. Edwards could have been that superstar!!! DEF!

@@badabing8884 The guy scored hat-tricks for England teams, so depends who you play, but I would have been tempted to play him further forward, to score goals, and make them, and keep the play high up the opponent's half. Of course, it depends upon where your team is already strong, or weak, and who you play, but I do think his best position would have been governing the midfield, and giving him the licence to score goals, just like Bryan Robson, but a more athletic, powerful version. He would probably have been more suited to Rugby, and can you imagine that kind of player running at you with the ball in hand. He'd simply run over other teams, a bit like Lomu!!! It'd be like a tug o' war, Edwards vs about 8 of the opposition, and Edwards does it again, a TRY!!! Some athlete!!!

​@@nialloneill5097What? He didn't score hat tricks for england and the rugby comment is nonsensical

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The sad reality is they didn't want to board the plane ,they had a gut feeling that something was gonna happen .

Who were the busy babes