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@@nanshire2278 Bad CGI can be quantified. There’s a scale to its quality. And so if it is bad by a standard then it could distract. The use of “us” is a generalisation here and doesn’t necessarily apply to absolutely everyone.

@@VeternovaYT That is your opinion, not fact.

Well not all of the prequels fights where great

@@MeLikezToast as nice as this movie looks, it’s riddled with issues. I’d like to do a full analysis soon to cover everything

@@frackmoonkey1823 I really only say it’s arbitrary. Not the most scathing of criticisms. If it doesn’t go to the trees, then Osha wakes up in the fight and would probably die immediately. So if anything it’s plot convenient.

It sucks because it's bad.

I think you've got your own issues butting into your analysis of this.

@@Nesseight Yeah the show is bad, I thought my attitude on that was clear. I just cannot believe when people make up nonexistent reasons to hate on the show when it is already so easy to do genuinely.

@@bigheadedguitarist Such as?

While I’d personally take it down a notch, and try to be more diplomatic, I have to agree with your assessment. Particularly as regards the inclusion of cortosis, there was a lot to like in those fight scenes. As well, you’re 100% correct that the show HAD established the lack of experience on the part of most of those Jedi, the strength and ruthlessness of what’s his name, etc. Again, I’d probably try to provide more balanced feedback (this video does some things quite well, after all) but he definitely focusses on false “problems” to a silly degree.

I’m happy to talk about why Glass Onion may or may not be good since the discourse surrounding that film is incredibly polarising

"The show ended two months ago and you're writing like you still don't know what Cortosis is?" You cannot justify this by looking to other media. Cortosis was never established, and it also does not work the way it does in legends. His helmet and bracer were never foreshadowed and it was never even implied to be possible to short out a lightsaber in ANY way. It's also a contrivance that his helmet is capable of tanking a lightsaber strike multiple times, but hitting it a few times with the hilt is enough to completely destroy the whole helmet. It's also also a contrivance that he has only exactly enough of the stuff to make a stupid looking helmet and a bracer. If you wanna look at future shit, it's now a plot hole that he has access to a HUGE vein of cortosis but hasn't made a full suit of armor and just been lightsaber proof. "Say what you want about the show overall but the fight choreography was brilliant." No, it wasn't, it was absolutely fucking retarded. You're just a shite for brains that looks at pretty colors waving across the screen and see people doing jumps and flippy flips and CONSTANT FUCKING HOLDS and jizz your pants cause you don't even know the first thing about fighting. Duel of the Fates is a brilliant fight scene, this is trash. "It was a fresh, energetic change of pace that also supported the characterization and world building of a new era." No it wasn't. It was lazy, flashy, and looks literally the fucking same as the other dogshit they've been making. Literally the only positive is it's at least better than the baseball bat fights in fucking rise of skywalker, and that's not a bar worthy of a compliment. Seriously, how can you say this is such a BRILLIANT fight scene when Smylo literally just stops fighting MULTIPLE times to leave a fighter at his back without killing him in order to chase a non-combatant that has NO MEANS of actually escaping because they're stuck in the middle of a giant fuck off forest with NOTHING around for literally HOURS in every direction. Characters literally just teleport into the scene MANY times. Characters just stand around doing literally nothing MULTIPLE times. Jeckie in particular just spontaneously starts beating Smylo despite Smylo absolutely destroying multiple Jedi Knights simultaneously, and she's a Padawan that was doing BASIC sword forms with a STICK literally earlier that day. She then dies because Smylo pulls another deus ex machina out of nowhere and just suddenly decides he has a hidden blade in his lightsaber, which again, never established this is possible and not established he has this. She then dies because she's unable to backstep when she clearly has plenty of time because she's just standing there doing nothing and sees him twist off the back of his lightsaber and ignite a dagger thing. Sol is also RIGHT THERE and does nothing to help his Padawan, he just watches her die. The force is used on multiple Jedi, and is even used on Smylo, but none of them actually ever use the force to deal DAMAGE to Smylo, they just exclusively use the force to inconvenience themselves, just like how they refuse to take any solid strike on Smylo by throwing a fucking KICK at someone holding a LIGHTSABER when he could easily parry it. And by parry I mean he could twist his wrist and cut their fucking legs off. Several times they do that by the way. Every time he uses cortosis, he never capitalizes on it. He kills Yord because nobody helps him and Smylo is just better, and he kills the two Knights he disabled AFTER their lightsabers reignite!!! He also spends most of his time blocking and striking with his lightsaber instead of parrying with his bracer that disables lightsabers for several seconds, which is an eternity in a fight, and then just cutting them in half. Don't say it wouldn't work on trained Jedi, because he literally easily force pulls a Knight onto his lightsaber with no resistance. The actual lightsaber exchanges are really bad, they are faster than the dogshit Ahsoka fights, but they're still just whacking two sticks together instead of actually AIMING at one another and BLOCKING the strikes like in the prequels. I could go on, but my brains hurts the longer I think about this piece of garbage. "In this episode, the Jedi's formal and regimented fighting style" It's not "formal" it's just a fighting style. Several, actually. There are many different lightsaber fighting styles that the Jedi practice, though of course nobody that worked on this show fucking know that. It's also not "regimented". They're practical fighting styles, they're not step by step programs that if you don't do the approved steps correctly the way, as an ENEMY TRYING TO KILL THE JEDI, you're supposed to, the Jedi just falls over and dies. That's not how fighting works. Fighting is inherently flexible, because you need to respond to what your opponent does and adapt to it. The Lightsaber Forms are not programs that the Jedi run when they fight someone, and if the enemy cheats the program crashes. The fact you think the Jedi's fighting style is stiff, inflexible and incapable of responding to aggression is VERY telling about how SHIT the choreography is. "was no match for The Stranger's aggressiveness and cunning use of his saber and armor." It wasn't fucking CUNNING, and he wasn't even that aggressive. He spent half the time defending as multiple people attacked him at once and literally ran away several times instead of finishing the fight. Usually to chase someone who couldn't possibly get anywhere. He certainly wasn't CUNNING because he just pulled a deus ex machina material out of his ass that the writers decided could just turn off lightsabers for exactly as long as they want with a side effect of forcing the Jedi holding said lightsabers to stand around like morons doing absolutely nothing despite HAVING THE FORCE. Then he killed a little girl because she stupidly stood still doing nothing while he pulled an obvious weapon from the back of his lightsaber in full view of her and then stabbed her while again, she did nothing to defend herself. That's not cunning, that's called the writers hit fucking pause whenever they wanted something to happen and didn't even CONSIDER the fact there are OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SCENE THAT WOULD TAKE ACTIONS! No, this is NOT a "brilliant" fight scene, it's not even GOOD. The only reason it's ranked above ATROCIOUS is because the fight scenes in Ahsoka, Obi Wan, and Rise of Skywalker, and all the sequel trilogy actually, were even worse than this. Notice how I analyzed the scene in detail, where you just said "Yeah it's amazing, see Smylo had bullshit armor and a secret dagger that were never established until he used them to kill main characters, so it's brilliantly written."

@@haku8135 Couldn’t have put it better myself - minus some expletives lmao. And you listened to what I was saying without committing a Strawman or just being reductive. Legend!

Did you watch the video or just come to a conclusion based entirely on conjecture?

@@VeternovaYT I have seen several takes like this, all from white guys. No need to watch yours to let you know what I think about the bunch of you. You sound petulant. Watch and enjoy it, or don't. It's a show. Based on stories. Made up by a guy. None of this matters and none of this is real.

@@prodalo8688 he was in the trailers. Also it’s been over a week since the episode.

@@VeternovaYT Sooo you think everyone watched the Trailer? And i was on vacation XD. Woooo a week?? Ur on a good way of beeing a youtuber. Unapologetic

@@kingayrton8327 oh no I’m British! But i do agree. There are only 2 alien movies

@@peterskipper9035 the rings confuse my no end in this show!

Galadriel is a mess. Her behaviour is childish and erratic. From going after Elrond, to telling him he should be obey his King etc... Total nonsense

@@TurinStark5 Galadriel is a nuanced character who displays the pride typical of a first age elf. She is driven by anger and a need to destroy an enemy who essentially killed most of the people closest to her, and I think it’s perfectly reasonable to act the way she does when she has been in multiple wars and her whole purpose is based around destroying Sauron. You don’t have to enjoy her character, of course, and can feel that she isn’t interesting, but I think she’s cool and has nuanced motivations.

@@lenathefirst_4574 Galadriel was a wise character throughout history. She was the founder of Eregion centuries before the rings were even being made and by then she was thousands of years old. She had been with Melian, she had been with powerful Elves. After founding Eregion she attempted to befriend the Dwarves proving she’s a good diplomat. She was expelled from Eregion because she opposed and didn’t trust Sauron. So yes I have Galadriel in the show because it has nothing to do with the character in the book…

@@lenathefirst_4574 yes that’s true. In my rant I probs made some mistakes. They still function differently than those in the books tho

@@lenathefirst_4574 we’ve been shown that the rings aren’t free from corruption and deceit. And so the correct answer is always Elrond. He’s the only one that doesn’t trust them when no-one should. The chance they’re evil alone should be enough to question the use of them.

Actually Sauron was there when the rings were being made...It was him that came up with the alloy approach (which Celebrimbor should know)

@@TurinStark5 I forgot about how celebrimbor didn’t know what an alloy was! Lmao

@@VeternovaYTwe’ve been shown that the dwarf rings are clearly corrupt, while the characters are at this point unsure of whether the elven rings are corrupt or not. Galadriel believes using them is worth the risk, while Elrond does not believe at this point that using them is worth the risk.

Eventually we as viewers know that Elrond and Galadriel will both have one of the oven rings, but at this point the conflict arises from the uncertainty and doubt behind how and why they work, and when to listen. Elrond and Galadriel have different perspectives both of which are justified for different reasons and necessary to progress the story.

@@francescobondini3051 no it doesn’t “exclude the other”. Saying the same words verbatim doesn’t mean he’s the same CHARACTER. He’s different. Anyone can see that. He doesn’t bother himself with the fight against Sauron because he doesn’t care. Whereas here he does? I call that inconsistent characterisation

@@VeternovaYT I agree with the thing about Sauron but it is ONE LINE. The rest of the character is amazing, it perfectly pictures he's otherworldly attitude and behaviour and abilities and character. I've talked with many tolkien fans who know much more than me about lotr and they all loved this Bombadil...

@@francescobondini3051 since lots of people think it’s fine he’s this way, then it must be true

@@VeternovaYT I would be totally fine to agree with you, but since the only actual reason why you don't like Tom Bombadil is one single line, then I beg to differ. And I'm glad many people agree with me. Again I'm not saying this show is perfect but one thing is to say "oh yes this show is nice for these reasons and could have been better for these reasons" you just make a full video complaining about stuff half of which are clear as day in the show. You said that the whole character doesn't make sense when the whole character is as extravagant as he is in the books and just said ONE line that is out of character. Man can you just wait for more episodes to judge it? You've seen so little and you're already so focused on complaining about it.

@@francescobondini3051 he’s not like he is in the books, and then the writers include that line into deceiving you to think he’s the same. It’s a pathetic attempt at manipulating your audience. He’s not a wise mentor figure. He’s a jolly guy who sings and dance and doesn’t care for the issues of Middle-Earth. This is a total 180. I wouldn’t mind him being different if it was justified. But as far as I can tell, and as far as the writers are concerned, this IS Tom Bombadil. They copy lines and sequences from the books, pass them off as something that happened thousands of years earlier and call it a day. Maybe Tom hits his head on a log and that’s why he’s different in LOTR, but that would be a mighty shame….

Since when will an Elf ally themselves with the Orcs to invade Eregion? The only "alliance" of such sort was Maeglin that betrayed Gondolin to Morgoth. So no, it doesn't make any sense.

@@francescobondini3051 because the show suggests that they are. It’s dumb for Sauron to not have made them corrupt if he was there when they were made. And if you wanna talk about lore, the eleven rings were made last, without Sauron’s knowledge. So that’s why they aren’t corrupt in the books. But here it’s all wrong

@@VeternovaYT the order of things might be different but still it makes sense. The show clearly makes you understand that it is what he does with mythril before casting it that corrupts them. He didn't do that with elven rings therefore they are not corrupt. Ok this is not how it was in the silmarilion but they don't have the rights for that. Still they made it clear enough. If you just paid attention rather than criticizing every single bit you would have noticed

However in the TV series, Sauron was actually then when the 3 were being created. Have you even been watching the show?

@@VeternovaYT Exactly, in the show Sauron was there... If he didn't corrupt the Elven rings is because he was an idiot....

@@TurinStark5 one of the greatest villians in cinema btw

Wow.. there are a lot of fools and simpletons in your comment thread. Keep your head high, because this series is true dog Sh*t. It is absolute trash. Poorly written, with poorly developed characters, and blasphemous lore assassination in a wonton and complete disregard for the source material. ANYONE telling you different is either a fool, or has something to gain by defending absolute garbage content by garbage creators.

You got so much wrong I suggest you don't bother critiquing any other episodes. The Elven Rings weren't corrupted, they were made using the same method as the other Rings. This was to enable Sauron to take control of them when he forged the One Ring. They accepted the bridge wasn't destroyed by lightning but by Sauron. I could go on but you get the point.

@@chrisparnham first of all. Unscripted rant. Secondly, that first point agrees with me? And yes, I know they agree it was Sauron. I was mocking the fact that Elrond thought it was lightning. Because it’s obviously not lightning.

I appreciate the support dude! Being negative about this really has brought out a whole array of people. Which is odd seeing as I was only really joking around in this video!

@@Temptation666 I don’t blame you. I just watch whatever the new thing is to laugh at now

@@clutchman4293 Don’t forget to subscribe! 😅

@@broncojuan and look where we are now…

@@VeternovaYT In better shape than it was in 2012?

@@broncojuan in much worse shape. The prequels, whatever you might think about their quality, still made money. And so when Disney bought Star Wars, the excitement for new good Star Wars was a possibility. But now a decade later, Disney won’t even release a film. Because they know it’ll flop. Star Wars can’t even sustain itself as a string of TV shows on a streaming service, let alone a whole movie. If whatever the next Star Wars film makes a profit I’ll be surprised

@@VeternovaYT The prequels ended 7 years before the sale. Nobody wanted a new George Lucas movie, the PM 3d release flopped, as did the clone wars movie before that. The clone wars started with only about 4 million viewers (not good for an IP that had been watched by more than 300 million people) an episode, and never was able to build on it. By the time it ended, it was only getting about 2 mil. Toy sales were down, video games were the only consistent money maker and even they had lost popularity. With no new content coming other forms of merchandising had dried up. George even admitted that one of the reasons he sold was because he felt responsible for his employees. If Star Wars dies, fine. As far as I'm concerned it should have died in 83, But judging by the kids I work with, it's going to be fine. They look at the sequels like the modern crybabies look at the prequels (which were actually worse movies).

Also, according to Screen Rant, RotS, AotC and RoS are the three lowest grossing films (adjusted for inflation) in the Skywalker story, with AotC coming in dead last.

@@jaredblauer2061 I want good writing

Did you laugh during the movie? Don't put too much into it you might overthink it of course realizing they would make the boy a ghost for a girl who didn't believe in ghosts is simple writing was well enough and kept light. I still think Lidia should have married beetle juice and may have had a better life he seemed genuine in his pursuit far better a choice than the person she was going to marry.

@@zojairam being a fan of the original ended up being a detriment to my experience of this one. I agree that there was too much going on and so the development of all the plots were severely underdeveloped. But that’s seems to have become the standard for Tim Burton now so I can’t say I’m not surprised.

@@BlueprintGB-gz5qq The original Beetlejuice is great fun. Flawed but with plenty to appreciate. This new one was a hodgepodge of ideas with no clear direction and weird writing choices