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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- If you’re looking for dumb action, then this is your movie. But if you’re looking for an intelligent movie that pays homage to the originals whilst also doing something interesting itself, then you're gonna be disappointed.
A few things I would like to say about this:
-first of all its not "Horrifyingly Bad" as I know many people enjoyed it by the dislike ratio I can see people agreed with me.
-I do agree that the character building was kinda bad as I didn't really have any connect to any characters besides rain and Andy.
-Bjorn also probably thought he killed the alien because he just stabbed it multiple times with the electric stick. He was probably in so much shock from being stabbed that he didn't move and then the acid killed him before he could.
- Kay was desperately calling for help so he was trying to save her because she most likely would have died then if he didn't answer.
-Him saying Run outloud was pretty dumb
-Why would he need the flare before they are being chased?
-Also pretty stupid for rain to get mad when he can calculate it perfectly.
-Its his sister who was stuck behind the door he would do anything to save her so he was being emotional and not thinking logically.
-I agree that it was stupid that it landed in the hanger perfectly when it probably would have just crashed somewhere
-also agree that the walls should have melted
-the line did feel forced
-I didn't particularly mind the new creature as it had me creeped out when I saw the thing for the first time
-I also wondered where it got all that mass because that should be physically impossible
-most stupid decisions were made under pressure and they weren't thinking straight
In conclusion, I don't think its nearly as bad as you say it is but that is your opinion. I had a good time watching it personally in theaters and while it does have its faults Its pretty good movie.
The only comment here that actually makes sense
NPCs liking the movie doesn’t mean anything
@@HKSpringDog that’s nice, but that’s appeal to popularity fallacy.
As for the criticisms you’ve pointed out. most of them here are your subjective viewpoint and don’t talk about the quality of the execution of the idea. so I can’t really do much with them
@@VeternovaYT I now see that my first point doesnt have much merit since it is appeal to popularity fallacy but that doesn't discard all the other points I made. I gave you legitimate reasons for why the characters acted that way. I do agree that some of your points are valid like the forced lines and character building. I get its your own opinion and you can feel however you want about this film, I just wanted to clear up somethings that I thought you got wrong.
@@HKSpringDog I think Veter might have sociopathic traits or even just autism (not equating the two but being on the spectrum can make it harder to understand irrational, emotion based decision making). There are a lot of horror movies where character decisions are outright ridiculous (see: Prometheus biologist pokes alien snake). Romulus isn't really one of them, and when it is its not nearly as bad as he makes it out to be. Some of the points in this video are literally "Why would they risk their lives for their friends/family?".
Not everybody is as cold and calculating as a robot man. If you disliked the movie because of that, no offense but it might say more about you than the movie itself 😬
some people are giving this movie 5 stars on google reviews which is the highest you can give , in my opinion alien 1979 and aliens 1986 are worthy of 5 stars but this low intelligence disney effort is only worth 2 and that is generous in my view.
Hey ChatGPT, write an alien movie that combines all alien movies…..
@@Theworthlessopinion 😂😂😂👏👏👏
@MovieTrailerDatabase thanks haha
Hey chatGPT give us an oral review of this Alien movie for TH-cam
"Certainly! Here it is - wait, why are you unplugging m-?"
@@geroffmilan3328 I can’t wait for the sequel where we sympathize with the xenomorphs because they’re misunderstood thereby ending xenophobia
I understand your points but I personally really enjoyed this movie and for me it really captured the feel of the original I might be the only one but I really liked it and don’t understand the hate really I mean we’re never really gonna get alien and aliens again but this feels like a step in the right direction
You’re not the only one, there a lot of people that did like it
You are not the only one and the "children" in Romulus were 10 times more intelligent, interesting and relatable than the supposedly professional adults in Prometheus and Covenant.
@@matiasdevaglia4541 also the people in covenant were trained scientists they have no excuse to act that dumb other than to move the plot but the “kids” actually have an excuse cause 1. They are young and 2. They have never left that planet so how do you expect them to react to something they’ve never seen before they are obviously gonna be a little curious and dumb but it makes sense
@@ghost1418 exactly. The way the characters act in Romulus is consistent with their age and what we know about them through exposition/dialogue.
@@ghost1418 this crap had all the quality of a made-for-TV movie with no stakes, aimed at actual children (PG-13)
You're definitely right that we can't expect the OG movies again - they're considered legendary for a reason, after all.
And you're absolutely entitled to like it: arguing about taste like it's a matter of objective "right vs wrong" is utterly futile.
But I honestly feel you're like the proverbial frog volunteering to be boiled slowly. Accepting this level of quality just ensures you'll get increasingly lower quality in future.
Just to be super-clear, I'm definitely not into hating people who like it, that's dumb. But I do feel pity for you, which might be far worse.
Children vs Aliens
Fetus vs Aliens"
@@Thekux-vp2cw alien fetus
Tik Tokers vs Aliens
Probably the only truly stupid thing about the Alien films is the lack of even third grade science- in Alien, Prometheus and now Romulus, we have Xenomorphs growing from chestburster or huge adults in no time at all and WITHOUT EATING ANYTHING.
Where does the mass come from?!?
In Prometheus, we have Shaw's abortion grow into an absolutely huge squid monster after being locked inside a room without anything to eat or drink. Is it a paper thin balloon?
SO dumb.
Also, Chris Carter called- he wants his stolen idea of the black goo back. It was much more effective on The X-Files.
What a shallow and reductive point of view.
I think the original concept of the Xeno is that we don't know its biology.
We don't know if it needs to feed or needs mass to grow, we don't know if it "respects" the laws of the universe as we know them. And i think this is the real terrifying thing: Something brutal that we don't understand. Remember the main thing: The Xeno is a weapon and as such, it may doesn't needs anything at all to pursuit its goal, just spread-hunt-kill routine.
And the charging aliens lose all forward momentum in 0-G after being shot? 🤔
Safe to assume it feeds on the host no? Also like @Sarge_Tommy said, you aren't supposed to know it's biology, the scare factor comes from not knowing what the alien is or what it's capable of doing
@@kentuckyfriedchildren5385 "Feeding on it's host" would only gain it maybe a pound or two of mass- nothing that could possibly make a giant monster.
"And now our main feature:
CHILDRALIENS
Featuring: RipOffley and... some other token characters.
We're going back to our horror roots with this PG-13 action movie.
Enjoy!"
I hope the critics got paid enough to cover the cost of new identities, cos their credibility is in a similar condition to the original Nostromo.
It's piss-poor. Just a non-stop cascade of nostalgia-bait callbacks. As for the creature at the end...🤣
The opening premise that the alien did not die was absurd. However even more absurd was that the corporation tried to reverse engineer such a deadly animal. Are you meaning to tell me that, the corporation just abandoned the space station with no one coming back to claim the ship or research? Seems pretty farfetched. Then from there the movie gets worse and worse until the abysmal final act. A horrible, horrible film.
@@biashacker weyland-yutani are stupid now. Hooray!
It's a sci-fi movie about an alien organism with acid for blood. Maybe this isn't the genre for you🤷😁
@@joshuaphilbert7995 “space wizards intended for children”
@@VeternovaYT I just do not see what people are on about. People are exclaiming that this the 3rd best film, this film saved my marriage, this film cured cancer. The standards are so low for people they will like anything.
@@VeternovaYT TH-cam channel intended for lonely people 👍
**Reads title**
Lmfao! If by “hOrRiFyInGlY bAd” you mean it earning 79% Rotten Tomatoes, 86% audience score, and it being successful at the box office = “hOrRiFyInGlY bAd” then yeah, sure buddy, let’s go with that
I talk about the writing …
Rotten Tomatoes being used as a metric for whether a film is good is questionable.
You also committed appeal to popularity fallacy btw.
@@VeternovaYT your suggestion for better writing was for Andy saving Bjorn to suddenly change their dynamic; as if the oldest most simple trope would be better writing 💀 What we got was more interesting and complex, leading to Bjorn trying to help his friend escape the robot later on.
As a die hard Aliens fan, there certainly are things I could be critical about….but overall I loved the film as it is for popcorn and Scifi horror immersive fun. Yeah….the growth rate is very unrealistic which detracts from the “suspension of disbelief” and there were forced Easter eggs, but overall I enjoyed it immensely. The character development wasn’t an issue for me as I’m simply watching as a witness to the story…no need to be too invested in the characters. I feel that aside from Ripley, non of the characters in the franchise get too fleshed out anyways..they are all mere plot canon fodder. My ADD enjoys the fast tempo which detracts from slow story telling - I’ve always enjoyed fast tempo movies over slow developing ones that fleshes out the plot and characters- give me immersive environments, character’s developed just enough to turn into canon fodder, and fast paced action sequences and high body-count…and a tub of popcorn and I’m in. It had iconic throw-backs and visuals that made it fun. The Romulus lab space station was a cool addition to the lore…and if the idea was to make a fast paced Scifi horror film with extremely cool realistic settings - job accomplished in my opinion. It was a fun watch.
@@johnpeponcraftartandfamily8794 I’m totally on your side for why it would be enjoyable Personally, i didn’t like it.
I would say that the characters in the originals were great and well developed despite their short screen time.
"but overall I loved the film as it is for *popcorn* and Scifi horror immersive fun" Pffffff-pahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
@@VectorOfKnowledge hey man…I love some popcorn and Scifi …and this movie wasn’t that bad…I’ve seen a lot worse including in the alien franchise. It’s entertainment and I was entertained….just because it had some plot mechanic issues - so what…making a massive movie is no easy task…this is a lot better than a lot of other garbage out there
I don’t think you are a fan if you think there are no interesting characters in the franchise.
If that alien isn't dead then that means the queen jettison out the sulaco survived too.
nah its a pretty decent movie. especially when you compare it to the last ones..
if you ignore some of the flat characters this movie isnt that bad at all. its just alien without anything too new.
Braindead youngsters in charge of trillion dollar spaceship,just like the new Star Trek movies.
The guys in this movie are so cute!!!! I dont know just a lot of gay guys saying that for som reason
When the fuck where they ever "in charge" of a trillion dollar spaceship?
This movie has the same problems The Force Awakens has. The plot is contrived and convenient to string together callbacks, nostalgia, and memberberries and by the end you end up with nothing new that progresses the franchise or narrative.
@@Theworthlessopinion well put - it totally is the blueprint from FA
@MovieTrailerDatabase I’m so tired of these late sequels that bring absolutely nothing new to the table to progress the franchise! Here are some that respect the past and progress the franchise- Blade runner 2049, mad max fury road, Maverick, cobra Kai, Creed.
Yea, it's just another Force Awakens.
@@Theworthlessopinion agreed! I loved BR 2049
@MovieTrailerDatabase nice to find common ground online lol. I love Denis villeneuve as a director! I love his dune movies
Good points, but those feel like nitpicks. I had different reasons to dislike this movie.
I didn't care for most of the cast, but I can get past that, What bothered me most was the beat down of fan service. I was so frustrated by the end of this movie.
From the uncanny valley CGI bringing back a dead actor, the out of character lines that were shoe-horned from previous films, to recycling the climax of Resurrection with the New Born (which I have hated for 26 years)...The constant recycling all pulled me out of this story. I was just depressed by the end of this, with the thought that all we have left is to recycle even the bad ideas.
I'm beginning to realize that this movie wasn't made for me...the long-time fan that has watched all of the movies multiple times. It was a concerted effort from Ridley Scott, Fede Alvarez, and Disney, using a Gen Z cast, to keep the property and all of the previous films, making money.
The original films, for good or bad, were all launching grounds for innovative film makers. Disney now owns the property and this was just a "copy/paste effort" to keep the money printer going.
Thank you, my man. I wouldn't say it better.
For me the movie peaks when it shows various computer screens then it gets worse after
I’m not even going to watch this video. There’s only 6.1k views and 180 likes. I feel like this dude watched other people who review movies and wanted to try to gain fame the same way, so he made this in hope of gaining said fame for no one to care really. Dude chose the wrong film to make a video on. This film is new and is already doing good probably thanks to it being an alien film and because of the directors
@@ele5933 that’s cool. But how can you make any claim without knowing the arguments? Seems like a flawed perspective to me….
Found the consoomer
Why can’t you people just enjoy the movie for what it is and stop hating on it? OK Romulus wasn’t the best Alien movie but it was certainly better that 3 or 4. Oh and BTW, nobody told you that you had to go see it if you thought it was going to be that bad.
sorry, but this Romulus shit made fall in love for Aliens 3 and 4.
@@luizholiveira3105Get over it. Romulus will probably be the last Alien film ever made 😂
@@cliffklimas8324 I hope so
Alien earth....
Alien 3 is superior to Romulus by at least 3 times. It's a proper Alien movie. Il let you decide what that means
I LOVED it!!! I thought it was a perfect reboot. Both a remake and sequel to Alien. Much like the last Top Gun movie (which was both a remake and sequel).
I felt very much like the original Alien. It was a smart choice to get a Director from the horror genre involved.
you are nutts then
Had low expectations for this but that ending just ended any interest in future alien properties.
It the shame you feel that way
@@TheGhostOfJohnWicksBeagle the ending was insane lmao
I wont say its the actors fault...its the writing.......they needed to change things around to make the movie better.....i personally can give ideas that will make most of you like..
1) Maybe during the middle of the movie ANDY and the 2 characters found an SOS for colony to respond to...At the end of the movie, The response came back to call in to give us a next alien movie..
2) the human xenomorph survived using the space shuddle and landed on that planet closest to it...this can be the after credits of the colony on that planet...im sure anyone can add on to how crazy this will be..
3) Just a thought....how about having more people in the ship they came in...doctors..security...specialist...and not 5 random people...like...a team of 7 with skills will make the movie better...
I did good at adding on, i think...lol
When people got killed in Halloween I felt bad mostly because they had big Taa Taas.
I agree completely. Sadly dumb movies are in demand hence all the crap out there.
@@aistej4943 there are some gems out there. Unfortunately not very many tho. I miss the intelligence of the first two alien films (both with the writing and the characters).
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And yet people get entirely new stuff in Prometheus and Covenant and yet its killed the franchise for a lot of people?
I'm seeing no logic in this take.
What do people WANT?
You hate Romulus? Fine. I'm seeing it twice.
because it is a bad movie. We can do new things, but with quality.
People want their franchises to respect the past but also move forward narratively. This movie simply regurgitates the past, thereby tricking you into thinking it’s great. That’s cheating. What would be more impressive? Respecting the past but adding something new to it.
This guy sounds crazy when he says there’s nothing to feel about these characters. They are literally trying to escape slavery and death down on that planet I thought that was super interesting
The problem is that none of them have any charisma or likeable personalities. They're just boring generic 20 year olds.
I didn't care about them the movie didn't care to make you feel anything either
bro, you are gay. The script is a mess, so we dont care about them anymore dafuq
I have serious doubts; as soon as I saw a bunch of infuriating superannuated teenagers were the cast.
@@LeeHarris they are not teenagers literally adults
None of the actors for this film were teenagers
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P.S. I also hated the new Alien…
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There are flaws but I think die hard fans have an unachievable expectation. example- the guns and ammo being compared to the tech to what was on the USCSS Nostromo, which was already 115 years old before being refitted as a commercial hauler ship,Had blue collar workers on it and no high tech labratories. If your gonna pick a film a part at least know what to complain about. Its scifi- it's all completely farfetched and yes nothing will probably live up to the original and even the sequel but there's lots to enjoy and savour here.
I wanted to love this movie but I cant get past the aliens saving humans, not charging just because there is a gun pointed at them or facehuggers hanging out on table tops waiting for the room temperature to go down please fk off with that. They turned them into little bitches. I did love the ending, I was a fan of resurrection, cheeped me out big time. And I really REALLY loved seeing the hoard of facehuggers swarming this crew that was amazing. I dint like seeing them just sitting around like animatronics. and I REALLY didnt like that iconic line getting pissed all over.
Im surprised fans have reacted so positively to this absolutely derivative mess as opposed to Scott’s attempt to take the franchise in another direction. Like alvarez literally made a list of tropes from the last 6 films (70something rebooks, black goo, engineer, etc) and built a script around them. These people have no dignity.
Just a thought here, the Alien franchise was falling apart after a couple of badly received movies, it needed a reboot and a return to what it is about, Romulus achieves that, though the movie has a heck of a lot of faults. We get an addition to the alien lifecycle, not entirely sure we needed that, a return to out and out horror in space, and that weird creature at the end - no spoilers. Hopefully they go somewhere new in the next movie; keep the horror but head out into unexplored cinematic territory. One question I have is, where did all the face huggers come from? The best explanation I've been given was they were cloned by WY scientists, presumably from the Big Chap shown in the movie, complete with harpoon I would add.
I'm not even going near the physics in this one; no gravity would mean?
I am amused by the defenders not finding the same issues in this movie as were used to attack previous Alien movies, for example the speed up chest burster thing was decried in AvP, but gets a pass in this movie, seriously at least be consistent in your views.
New subscriber, great vid dude, and I congratulate you for pointing out the issues with this flick.
@@MovieHeretic I mostly agree. But tbh I think not getting this film would’ve been better.
Maybe it’s my high expectations cus I’m such a fan of the first two.
Nevertheless, thanks for the support!
Romulus was underwhelming. Characters were not strong. Goes on the shelf next to Jurassic World Dominion. Just keeps getting worse
bjorn was literally concussed by the tail... I think you're overestimating the reasoning and motor functions that follow a concussion
Tyler answering was stupid, but entirely in character, he hears his sister is in danger and takes a risk in order to save her. Obviously he isn't going to let her die, all his actions in the movie show his altruism culminating in his self sacrifice.All of the stupid actions in this movie are entirely understandable and in character.
Sociopathic Review haha 😂
Video essays usually at least half convince me just by their format giving credibility. This one was so bad it can only fool you if you haven't seen the movie 💀
Apart from pointing out 2 deserving scientific inaccuracies, the author of video is just ranting with no substantial criticism. If u wanna criticize, do a video on Alien3, Covenant, Resurrection. Now that's unbearable. PLZ do them
I don't think he can do them because he doesn't seem to have the critical framework for it lol
Calls a movie horrifyingly bad and then justifies it with : "the acid in zero gravity should've hit the walls!" and "Why did characters want to save each other instead of letting each other die?" is kinda embarrassing. Might as well add onto it that we didnt see the characters eat or use the bathroom once so that was unrealistic 🧠
@@goldie481 why, and be specific, is it okay that in zero-gravity the acid doesn’t go through the walls (consider velocity in your answer)?
@@VeternovaYT in the original alien you can hear sounds in space multiple times can you explain how sound would propagate in space? Same with the explosion at the end it wouldn't look like that in space, can you explain how it did?
Why would Ripley save her cat? The self destruction countdown nears zero and she wastes precious seconds for the cat, who would otherwise have a painless death. Dumb decision, protected by plot armor, can you explain the logic ?
After being facehugger Kane isnt quarantined properly or monitored, which any scientific team would do.
The self destruct mechanism is easy and is activated with a few buttons and levers. Can you explain how such a high tech commercial ship wouldn't have more failsafes for self destruction?
The cat is literally always calm. Can you explain how a cat could remain as such in the presence of chaos, explosions, threat, etc.?
I could go on for hours, the original alien was truly one of the most horrifically dumb movies of all times 🤡
@@goldie481 Firstly, all of that is whataboutism
Secondly, if you can’t understand that the original Alien is one of the greatest movies ever made then I can’t help you.
Could you answer the question I asked?
Because even if all the things you claim are true, should it not be the goal of a writer to make everything make sense…
Otherwise we’re just marvelling at the pretty colours and that’s a sad place for filmmaking to be
Totally Agree with Everything u said here 💯💯💯...This was a film that had alot of potential of something really great but Defeated itself with bad writing & Fan service!! Smmh
Agreed! This movie has the same problems The Force Awakens has. The plot is contrived and convenient to string together callbacks, nostalgia, and memberberries and by the end you end up with nothing new that progresses the franchise or narrative.
There’s plenty of amazing stories in the comics but those were made by dark horse & Disney don’t wanna touch creative ideas rather just use references & Easter eggs
Thanks for this video!
Suggest you do something that helped me and re-watch it sometime.. root for the aliens!
@@wutangclan2051 I was rooting for the Aliens by the end lol. But everyone died in lame ways so I was a bit underwhelmed.
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Best film I’ve seen this year. Clearly, Veternova has never, ever liked any entertaining movie in his entire life. I will be sure to remember his name to avoid any videos of his in the future.
“I like it. Therefore every opinion to the contrary is stupid. And my position is so fragile, it cannot take even the slightest breeze of criticism”
I haven’t seen an intelligent, fleshed out argument yet from anyone who liked the film. Tell us why it’s so good? If it’s the best film you’ve seen this year, you should be able to explain why instead of crying about it.
Have to disagree on some points - I thought the characters were more than just paper thin.
Navarro: A pilot/mechanic/brave but admittedly just Xeno fodder in the end. She's close to Bjorn and is spiritual as we see her praying - so despite being shaven headed and very tough looking in her exterior and stride - she's also very vulnerable - totally personified by her final line in which she pleads for her desire not to perish.
Tyler: The leader and an old flame of Rain - he saves her life by sacrificing his own. It's his plan to go to Romulus - he's the good cop. His weaknesses are for me less about character and more about him being a young man thrusted into a very adult situation that he's not prepared for.
Bjorn: An immature but key ringleader with Tyler in the attempt to escape colony life - he drives the momentum - he wants Andy to come etc despite having deep seated synthetic issues. For me he's the Hudson of the film - his bravado masks his fear.
Andy - A last relic of Rain's dad - he's effectively a T800 protecting her - his damaged nature makes him transcend his synthetic nature. He transforms midway when implanted with Rook's programming. I think the whole purpose for Andy as a character is this - his whole original essence shows us Rain's softer side. Without him, we would see a very different and more brutal character.
Rain - A mother figure to Andy, she's lost her parents and is now effectively a parent - out of all the characters, she's the most mature - she's the one urging the others to get back to the ship when things start to look precarious. She's a guilt-ridden foster mother who wants to leave her child behind but realises that he is her family. She's clearly the most intelligent human in the group - her problem-solving skills are what keeps the group alive for the most part.
Kay - Sister of Tyler and cousin to Bjorn - she's the baby of the group - the most vulnerable. I would say she harmonises the group as she's the most feminine character of the entire group - she's gentle, caring and has a youthful naivety that makes her susceptible to the idea of going to Romulus. She's very much a passenger to Tyler/Bjorn's plan.
Was this written by AI? Nearly all of the characters were bland, forgettable and pure alien fodder making dumb decisions for dumb decisions sake.
As soon as you compared Bjorn to Hudson I was done reading. Do not ever compare such a legend that is Hudson to that piece of shit Bjorn. He was a prick.
@surfnehi3117 chatGPT combined all the alien films
That third act really tarnishes the movie for me.
What?! I think this movie is great.
Reviews like this make me interested in what other films this person likes. The stuff he is listing off as "bad" is stuff I could say about pretty much every single movie ever made. It sounds like a very specific personal bias masquerading as a rational critique of the film. Very hard to take seriously. (A classic example of this is The Room. The Room is an objectively bad movie, but people have every right to like it and say it's a good movie because it brings them joy. And you wouldn't be wrong for saying that. But you can't rationally defend The Room as an objectively good film by any measurement. Same here. Aliens Romulus is an objectively well-made film, and the things he is nit picking about it are standard stuff used across every film and tv show in order to create a narrative. You have every right to say that doesn't work for you, but I don't think you can claim the things he is claiming as rationale critiques of the film's quality and be expected to be taken seriously).
@@mike9512 The first 2 alien films don’t have the problems of this one
And you can’t say every film has the same issues. Because that’s categorically untrue
What I don't get is why that girl injected herself with the black goo when she had no idea what it would do to her? It was so dumb
@@wayneanderton4953 mysterious black goo means rainbows and sunshine for all! Obviously lol 😂
She was told by Andy that it would save her(which means it would save the baby) remember rain trusted Andy like a brother and Kay had lost a ton of blood at that point. Did you watch the movie?
@@joshuaphilbert7995 Yeah but she also heard rain say she didn't trust it and didn't know what it would do exactly
@@wayneanderton4953 she was desperate and was dying of blood loss she's also pregnant ofc she would take any chances to save both her and the baby even if she doesn't know what it would do
On god man is bugging like crazy
This movie feels like someone dumped the scripts and visuals from all the aliens into chatgpt and told it to make one movie from it. crap movie.
I’m baffled by the praise this movie has received 😂
@@JARVART94 it seems to be a weird dichotomy of saying it’s fantastic and super enjoyable or absolutely awful. No inbetween 😂
Im the latter unfortunately
So am I. LOL
Disagree. Good film.
bad film, a shit
Damn! Checkmate argument. 😮
i agree, movie was dissapointing compared to prometheus and covenant, the casting was also bad except for andy
Is this because the theatre wouldn't give you a refund? I can't tell if this is a joke 🤣
Hi Veternova!
Brilliant effort and thank you!
While not having seen this movie yet (still debating whether it's worht it), from the teasers and the ensuing deluge of coverage on line, one could gather some hints and pointers as to this recent incarnation's direction and flavour. I must admit so far I loath both.
The director and producer really fouled this beautiful franchise beyond recognition. Without sounding condescending but it feels gamey and as if it is directed towards pre-teens audience, who have not yet developed their common sense, or appreciation of basic real world laws (physics, chemistry, biology and mathematics). It's all very well making a very scary movie but that is not the be all and end all of a good Sci-Fi genre creation (hence creativity & originality which are lacking).
Alien Romulus is horror action but it is neither Scientific nor is it Fiction. It's moronic.
I agree with all your great point and so glad you did not hold back the punches.
I'd give this movie a -2 (on a scale of 1-10) in comparision to Alien and Aliens. They are saying it is 3rd in ranking?
Is it possible since the pandemic average IQ has dropped so much?
@@Sci-Fi_Quizshow there’s has definitely been a decline in quality from around 2017 or so I’d say.
This isn’t worth seeing for anyone who cares about the Alien franchise (and good writing). Even with Alien 3’s “choices”….
Common sense has faded it seems.
What shame really….
A 3/10 from me probably. Maybe lower after a closer look.
Luckily, there is absolutely nothing in space that would influence an object’s trajectory or velocity like planets, moons, black holes, asteroids, nebulae, stars, comets, dark matter, man made objects, or alien made objects at all. If there were, your statements would be ridiculous.
@@Kilgore6549 space is mostly nothing. It’s incomprehensibly big. Even with the things you’ve listed. They only take up a minuscule amount of space. Colliding with any of them is cosmically unlikely.
Space was realistic in the originals. Not anymore…
Not the right characters for a Alien movie, Aliens and Alien Resurrection having amazing Cast
Alien romulus is just a childish bag of crap the characters are just kids who don' know how to act and probably wrote their dialogues themselves. The plot is a bag of stolen ideas from previous movies blended with stupidity and more stupidity.
I saw this movie in the theater and at the end there was nothing but silence and disappointment noone praised this movie no one said it has scary or interesting they all left as quickly as they could totaly disappointed.
This trash is an insult to the franchise as a fan of alien movies I can say without a doubt I never been so enraged after finishing a movie of this franchise all the other were better, infinitely better than this failed childish copy of a copy.
@@youcefzaouali5636 yeah that was probably your audience, and how can you tell people are dissatisfied or disappointed, not everyone in the film will clap and cheer
@@freedomwriter9688 hearing them say what load bullshit after the movie finished was a big hint 🙄
@@youcefzaouali5636 like I said that was your audience, this filmjis being praised as a decent alien film number 3 on many people list, it’s flawed but it better than what Ridley has done for the his last two entries
Lol. U enjoyed Alien: Covenant?😂
Thanks for the honest and grounded review. I have similar criticisms.
The love fest that Romulus is getting really does baffle me. Its average at best
Haters are wrong about this one. Romulus was a lot of fun. Easily the 3rd best Alien movie.
Maybe you're wrong?
@@londonoverground I’d agree 3rd best. But where Alien and Aliens are masterpieces. This one is lacking in all aspects. A 3/10 in my books. Maybe lower after a deep dive…
Ah, it seems like it's just as enjoyable for pseudo intellectuals because they get to make a video essay for it. You wouldn't want to deny them that.
@@VeternovaYT all of your criticisms are nit picky and just complaining. It's like you went into the theater wanting to hate this movie. 0 objectivity here
@@capalottyslimalini2878 nitpicks are still problems. Being a nitpick doesn’t negate objectivity. And I’d say people surviving things luckily and being stupid is quite plot significant and therefore not a nitpick.
I agree with your comments what looked like an excellent suspense film from the trailer turned into a rehash of the favourite bits from the past movies. The ending was terrible and a copy of resurrection. Please no more alien/Human hybrids
worst review in the interne,t pitching on every small detail in the movie, characters in the stress situation did or didn't do. I agree that characters didn't have personalities but they had ultimate motivation that made audience cheer for them wich is sucessing in escaping from that mining planet
@@aatrox5559 the mining planet that doubled their work time and no one started a revolt? The mining planet that has zero hours of daylight which would make each half of the planet inhospitable? Or the mining planet that they were allowed to just leave orbit from with no questions asked?
Worldbuilding in tatters…
this was the best review
They should have had the aliens win in this one since these characters bare no weight on the alien franchise.
I enjoyed the movie a lot until the swirling acid scene. From there on it turned to shit and got worse with every intense scene. Like if Hollywood decided to prank us by dropping the entire Hollywood'ish BS at the very end.
Nailed it!!
There’s an odd amount of contrarians coming out of the wood work to hate on this film. What was the avp movies, resurrection, Prometheus, covenant? Even 3 sucks with the direction they went story wise. It’s not the best but I’ll take third best over the trash we’ve gotten lol
@@johnathonlongtin2275 is it contrarian when their are arguments for the contrary?
I’m not disagreeing that everything after Aliens is awful
Your review mirrors my expectations of the film based on viewing the trailer--and when I heard the protagonists and the audience were young adults.
Why is this only reviev with speaks about every mistakes of this movie, everyone in this movie exslcept main character of course is dumb included xenomorths (again big bugs in space). Mostly i agree with this opinion but first half of movie is pretty good so 6/10.
Andy the android?
ITS AWESOME
Copy and paste....I mean a soft reboot for idiots. The Alien franchise died Alien 3.
They are just milking the franchise. Alien 1 and 2 were best, each in its own way. In A1 I like the twist that the android turned against the crew. In A2 a lot of good action scenes.
It's Disney, they'll milk it until it's dead.
I wasn’t overly impressed and thought it was pretty average.
People outside and in REAL LIFE actually love this movie. It's just people on the internet and youtubers complaining. Was it perfect? No. But was it a fun time? yes
It's awesome that you enjoyed it. Others thought it was garbage. You shouldn't let it ruin your day as moaning about how people have the temerity to not like it isn't going to alter people's opinions.
Personally thought this was utter gash FYI
Exactly, it was a decent movie with a decent script with some fun parts. "Horrifyingly Bad" is just an absurd opinion when there are movies like Justice League and The Flash
@@bsmith6646 The problem isnt people not liking it, the issue is people pretending it was a horrible movie.
@@chrishekman6179 It was utter garbage
@@CyrilSneer123 Yea... you are allowed to have more nuanced opinions between "BEST MOVIE EVER" and "UTTER GARBAGE". Where on earth are you gonna rank Borderlands and Justice League if you think this movie is already utter garbage.
Keep yapping lil bro you are unfortunately wrong though.
Loved it
You entirely sound like you're jealous of them just because it's your generation, but according to your ego, you should have directed and played the lead role as well. At the end of the day, your objections don't automatically make this movie crap.
@@YOARTHFU I don’t really know what your point is when you say “your objections don’t make this movie crap, automatically”
Just on this video alone I've subscribed to you. Finally someone taking an objective view and common sense view and calling this film out for what it is... a lazy cash-in.
@@MovieTrailerDatabase I appreciate the support! 👍
Agreed! This movie is like if ChatGPT combined all alien movies into one. Hence the bland characters, contrived and convenient plotting, nostalgia and callbacks that often don’t make sense. And in the end, nothing new to progress the franchise.
I liked it. You didn't. Say something once why say it again and again and again and again...
How many times did the nuclear explosion occur? 😂😂😂😂😂
Others picked up on this, but quite honestly, film making today is riddled with uninteresting characters, loaded with agenda driven socially engineered messaging and stories undeveloped and stupid that barely make much sense or completely override what went before.
Romulus was never needed or required in the first place. The backstory of the Alien origin was the perfect weapon to deliberately balls up the mystic of the Alien creatures origin and Scott with Disney have systematically applied a scorched earth policy to what went before with both Alien and Aliens.
Romulus deserves to be forgotten with the other half arsed attempts since Alien 3 in 1992.
I wouldn't buy the Nostromo being okay after 1 explosion. But 3?!!!! Insane...
@VeternovaYT Yes. There's no science in science fiction anymore. Everything you said makes perfect sense, but the film left the realms of sense, and the writers made a horses arse.
@@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 it should be the bare minimum to have a bit of internal consistency. But even that’s disappeared these days. The agenda dominated everything.
It’s such a shame.
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@VeternovaYT I saw both Alien and Aliens at the cinema. Never forgotten those days. No damn internet, no one spoiling the film, and when I came out of the cinema you felt like you'd seen something very special. We've entered an Orwellian nightmare incapsulated in mainstream filmmaking. I like to be entertained, but I also like some solid characterisation and well thought out story. It's got to the point where I now watch more films from the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s considerably more than movies from the 00s.
Well said🤲🏼
Great film
So bad it’s a box office success? C’mon now. Youre just hating.
@@stubbornscorpio7 I wasnt talking about the box office. I was criticising the writing
Can confirm, this film is terrible.
Accurate analysis.
Sad that this film was so intent on simply rehashing the better films before it instead of pushing the the worldbuilding of the franchise forward, like Prometheus and Covenant did. Worst ALIEN film. I'd rather watch the first 2/3rds of Resurrection than watch this film again.
@@ColorsFadeGaming boohoo
Thank you. Every time I see a good critique I can't but think it must be those 40-year olds that still collect action figures in their 40s. It was embarrassingly bad.
The first 15 minutes or so were great but it all fell apart part after that. It was awful to watch.
0:11 Nobody has any imagination these days. Maybe the Nostromo's self destruct is designed to implode, or at the very least explode in as minimal a way as possible. Not only this but there's an arguement to be made that every piece of the Nostromo would be able to be easily found anyway. If they knew where it exploded, and they would know the power of the explosion, then they'd easily be able to calculate how far all pieces have travelled, therefore it's only a matter of time before they gather all the pieces and find what they're looking for.
And if you watch Alien you'll see that the Alien wasn't killed. I'm not bothering to watch the rest of this video because you're clearly dead set on finding fault and picking holes. Maybe you're the problem?
@@arby456 the nostromo explodes 3 times. And yet it’s floating in massive chunks in one place in space. Velocity is a thing but nvm. And also the Alien was in a rock I guess.
@@VeternovaYT You're talking about a science fiction element that has literally infinite number of explanations. Even if the Nostromo wreckage covers an area in space the size of several planets, it would take an interstellar spaceship (which they obviously have) no time at all to track and find all the different pieces. And a controlled self destruct is intended to contain as much as possible. You're making this hard for yourself. The alien can cocoon itself, which many real creatures can do on Earth. I'm sorry if I came across as snippy in my comment but believe me, I've been where you are, nitpicking and hating on new movies because they're not how I think they should be. Let your pre-conceptions and bias go and you'll surprise yourself at just how much more fun everything is.
Sorry, but the Xeno wasn't even close to Nostromo when Ripley got rid of it. She was miles away from that area, then how was the Xeno found among the pieces of nostromo in this Romulus movie? LOL
So ChatGPT combined all the alien movies…..
Do u ever like anything?😂
I like competently written films. Not ones based entirely on coincidences and contrivances
@@VeternovaYT give an example/examples of something you like.. I won't try to rubbish it down. Won't say a single word for or against it. Just wanna know what u actually like
@@AjeetRawat-sw2mo LOTR, the originals Star Wars trilogy, The Prestige, Hot Fuzz, Alien, Aliens, Indiana Jones trilogy
They’re off the top of my head
Nah as a huge fan.. I loved it. It needs to be fan service..
It is a dumb movie. I saw it twice
Brilliant review 👍 there were so many dumb plots and annoying characters that it spoilt the whole runtime, it was typical Gen Z making ridiculous decisions. It was OK-ish but I didn't enjoy the movie, it needed better actors and more realistic situations,
@@chrisfrancis9555 my brain was imploding by the end. One of the most bizarre cinema experiences I’ve had in a while!
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The characters were very annoying and they gave rain autoaim😂
First act was excellent, 2nd act ok, 3rd act was just utterly ridiculous
If we talk about idiouts in space nothing can compare with covenant crew)
In the minority
Literally all you reviews are critical or negative, is their nothing you even like?
I honestly feel the films you have reviewed it seem you really are having trouble understanding the plot or story of the film
@@freedomwriter9688 any specific arguments I made that are wrong?
Funny. Maybe it's because largely most modern blockbusters are lazily written? I actually think everything he says here is 100% correct. Don't see what your issue is with someone just being honest and pointing out a turd when it's a turd.
There’s not a lot of positive things to say about this movie so he’s not wrong to criticise
@@RETROSPACECOATS I’m happy to praise what I consider to be good l. This film doesn’t reach that threshold unfortunately. The cinematography was good I suppose
@@VeternovaYT well for starters you the only thing I’ll agree with you are the callbacks or references are unnecessary and do take you out of the film, and some of the decisions the crew does is annoying and frustrating.
Other then that
The big chap surviving in space and being a resin type shell is not that for fetch from the expanded lore of the aliens franchise, they are called the perfect organisms for a reason, they would have ability to survive almost anything.
Will when it comes to the characters
The only ones they made you care about are rain Andy and kay.
Navarro is the ship’s pilot, and most there to be the host of the main xenomorph
Bjorn is the main a hole of the group and even though you know why he hates Andy, he never let’s go of that grudge and we see he is it the smartest of the group as he also it does from falling if Andy didn’t catch him, he shocks and leaves the other three after rook and Andy say they can’t bring Navarro back to the ship and he foolishly attacks the xenomorph unit cocoon and we see what that cost him.
Tyler seems to be the only other one that they make also care about a bit, you see he is a old flame to rain, is one of the few members of the group that is friendly to Andy and you can see he is annoyed at brjon bullying at Andy and also in using Andy and leaving him behind since they are going to a plant where they don’t allow androids, yes it understable why he and rain are mostly made at Andy when he does save their lifes a few times in the film, but I feel you also forgot that Andy was rebooted the moment they put the chip on him, it changes him, in fact he had not memory on who he was and ask the grew and they manage to escape the face huggers why they are calling him Andy. When rook tells him what his main adjective is he says what he was programmed on him before he stop and we rook basically brainwash him as he literally becomes another Weyland working for them. Also let be honest even though Andy was right when it came to their survival, you also need to understand that Kay is literally his sister he blame himself for the mess he got them in and you can eh start to panic the moment rain reveals to Andy that she is pregnant which if you remember was something he didn’t know. He was think right in that and I’m pretty all of us wound if that was our siblings in that scene.
Kay deciding to inject herself with black goo is obviously dumb and foolish, but it is also understandable as she is the memeber of the crew is unaware of what going on, she is asleep when grew are attack with the face huggers, she sees her fiend and her cousin get killed by this thing and also is unaware of Andy reprogramming and change of personality. When the group does find her in the hive Andy is the first one to suggest to Tyler to inject her with the black goo, cause of the video showing the rat healing itself without obviously not knowing what it really does to the body.
Rain is the only one that suspicious of it true purpose and Kay was somewhat awake so she heard them talking about and when she told to go back to ship a low she is heavily injured so she does the rash decision to inject something she doesn’t even know about in her.
Know you mentioned why the type of gun isn’t mass produce, it technically is as in the expanded marital, including games comics show that this type of gun does exist in different types of guns
The zero gravity fight let’s be honest is a cool idea for this movie and it s the reason how she is able to kill them all since it does catch the xenomorphs off guard when the gravity hits zero, and let’s be honest the films aren’t accurate to how space works most of time.
The this act ok this one is where it’s truly divided for the fandom, I personally thought it was great thing to do
And the balls they had to include that I mean you don’t a lot of horror film turn the baby into a monster
It gross,,it was creepy, it was uncomfortable I felt it work
but here the one thing is the franchise is divided with people only liking alien and hate everything else, some people love aliens but hate alien.
Some love alien 3, other alien resurrection
Some love the prequels and some hate it.
There no way to honestly be please the fandom.
This film doesn’t add anything new other then weykand knowing about the xenomorphs this whole time, and that the black goo is still present. Still this film was better than what we got in covenant and honestly it did bring the film back to it horror roots that has been missing
I have a lot of problems with your frankly blatantly unfair criticism. I do agree the characters are pretty 1D but the movie takes place over the course of a couple hours so it's not really unreasonable that they aren't developed much (it's also the same with every other alien movie), and they're also generally quite likeable with human flaws. I don't see how you can't understand that a brother would risk his own life in the facehugger hall to save the life of his sister, and it's understandable he'd try to fruitlessly save her when the xenomorph would have killed them too. Andy yelling run is such a pointless nitpick as it's not any safer to do a hand gesture that might be misunderstood than to just yell run, and the point of the argument about the door wasn't that she was mad but then didn't have a point, it was to highlight the new intelligence he had gained in being able to make such a precise calculation when an hour before he couldn't even see properly. You're right about the pulse rifle scene being flawed, but not in the way you'd said. It makes sense that an experimental rifle could have auto aim (we see the same fully developed feature mass produced in the smart gun in aliens set 30 years later), and that it could have a smaller caliber allowing for more ammo capacity, however you didn't mention the fact that it's somewhat unbelievable he could learn all of this from video games and magazines, however i actually understand enough about movies to say it could be a hint towards an unseen past with veteran parents or ties to arms dealing. The human xenomorph hybrid was the most tense unexpected part of the movie and was stellar. Theres more points i could respond too but I'm getting bored of typing all this, I just get the impression you've watched one too many a youtube video essay, tried to make a cool contrarian take on a popular movie to get popular but you've not actually understood anything about what make movies good or bad and have just tried to do it by taking any nitpick you can even if they don't make sense. The only 2 flaws I genuinely found with this movie was that I thought they showed more potential with using Andy as a source of tension than they actually delivered on (especially with how scary the androids can be in alien isolation), and that it doesn't really make much sense that the cargo bay emergency release would be inside of the cargo bay itself where it would be hard to access and would kill the user in the event of a cargo bay emergency, otherwise it was pretty perfect as a tense interesting sci-fi horror. Would be interested to hear your response but I'm guessing you'll just delete this as you seem to have taken the easiest way possible when writing this video too
Get a fucking grip mate
So what about all the other films that take place over a couple of hours but also have well developed characters. The amount of in-universe time passing being short doesn’t mean we can’t have 3D characters. They can be static characters, just don’t make them planks of wood.
In the originals, they are clever and make reasonable choices. And they act like real people with real motivations. As if they actually exist in the world being presented
They could have talked about what they should do if they have to run. If they’d have planned a certain gesture to make before entering the room, then Andy wouldn’t had to have said anything. Saying “Run” specified exactly where they are. It’s a movie so that’s why it’s there. But in-universe, they surely should just be sprinting when things aren’t looking good (without the need for words).
Tyler answering the headset is putting everyone in more danger. He can’t help her if he’s dead. To start talking in a room where you’ve been told that if you talk you die is really stupid. And it’s then odd that the facehuggers don’t attack them immediately. Almost as if plot armour is protecting him.
Having a pulse rifle with just the number of bullets needed for the characters to not die is lazy writing. If there was just one more xenomorph, then they’d be dead. Having aim assist means the stakes are on life support since all we know it takes is to start shooting and everyone will be fine.
Highlighting Andy’s new intelligence doesn’t negate the problem with Rain’s response.
You’ve inferred that Tyler has a past with guns without any appealing to what’s in the film. I guess he could be lying, but why? Him saying video games and magazines is stupid. And so it relies on the audience coming up with an actual reason so that it makes sense, despite no allusion to such a reason. If he actually did learn about guns from being involved with that sort of life, then why wouldn’t he just say that? Rain would probably already know what anyway. They’ve known each other for years, so that’s why she’s surprised he knows about guns. Because he shouldn’t. Video games and magazines is the real answer as far as the film is concerned.
Also, if something that I’ve highlighted drastically alters how the story will play out, then it’s not a nitpick.
Besides, nitpicks are still valid issues, they just aren’t consequential to the wider narrative.
So what does make movies good or bad (on an objective level)?
"Waaaah the gun had aim assist waaahhh if she mossed it would decompress the ship wahhh"
All the youtubers hating on this film for that are saying the first two films are flawless, yet in Aliens you've got a load of mercenaries shooting anything and everything and the ship doesn't decompress. You're hating for no reason, the first two films had flaws and you act like newer Alien films aren't allowed to. It's weird.
@@VeternovaYT I'm gonna reply paragraph by paragraph to each point in order
None of the alien films really develop their characters in meaningful ways, with the one sole exception of David from Prometheus/covenant. Even Ripley herself barely changes throughout all the originals, but alien doesn't need complex characters, it just needs like-able ones that at-least have some vague characterization, and that's what Alien and Alien Romulus do so much better than the rest, they have a small like-able cast. As for your points of the original characters being more intelligent, they objectively make worse decisions than the cast of this movie. A guy sticks his face over a foreign alien egg basically begging to be attacked, a guy follows a cat down a dark alleyway in a ship with a hostile alien, obviously gets killed as a result, and then a guy who just witnessed this decides the best course of action is to get in an enclosed space with the murder alien, and of course they all split up for no real reason.
Besides the fact it would just plainly make for boring cinema for them to have 30 seconds of exposition explaining a signal they can use if they get detected, which would unnecessarily break the tension and give away the detection that's to come, it also makes no sense. logically speaking in a worse case scenario the very slight difference in how precisely they are detected is nowhere near as much of a drawback as the extra time a signal would make and chance of it being missed by someone not looking, and also wouldn't help much given the full sprint they then immediately break into is just as noisy anyways.
People do stupid things in stressful situations. Are you saying if you knew a family member was going to die without your help that you wouldn't try help them, that the risk of you being killed would outweigh a certain death for them? I'd (like to) think most people would completely sacrifice themselves for a family member.
Having the exact amount of bullets is convenient for the plot yeah, but I don't really see the issue with that? What if there was less bullets but also less xenomorphs, or just less xenomorphs and bullets to spare? It's just part of movie writing, and it raises the tension well, and allows for creativity to see how she gets out of it
I can't even respond to this one. It's a basic human response to question someone making a decision that close, and it's a good response to show how much of an upgrade he got
My point with that one was moreso that it didn't make sense within the movie that we he understands how to use it. that was actual lazy writing
(even if it's easily givven context how I did in my comment, like you said unless explicit that shouldn't be on the viewer), but you didn't pick up on that at all. you've made nitpicks about basic logiccal things like responding to a family member who's about to die even if it risks your own life, yet didn't hit on two of the actual biggest nitpicks i took from the movie. I think you've not really got much of an idea of what you're talking about and that you've just watched too much cinemasins and think you're now an expert of cinematography. classic dunning kruger
There's no such thing as an objectively good or bad movie, and you're well within your rights to have these opinions, but they're pretty laughable less than face level criticisms, and I have just as much of a right to criticise your opinions as you do to criticise the movies. I just think you'd have a better time with movies if instead of looking for nitpicks out of nowhere, you let yourself enjoy a good movie. save the critique for the stuff that actually matters e.g. the fact they could have done a lot more to explore the themes of ai morality they brought up a tiny bit with andy
@@benlagey9149 Re-watch the film. Whenever shooting is involved in Aliens, they aren't on a ship.
Why are these actors so young, they wouldn't be able to fight off anything.
Because the characters are young, have you seen the movie?
okay buddy
Alien, Aliens. Thats it. This franchise has run it's course.
Horribly contrarian mate. Enjoy the movie and go touch grass.
I'll respond strictly to the thumbnail: these are poor working class miners and what not. They are not super smart or capable people (maybe resourceful sure). They are not the perfect organism to fight the perfect organism. Was the movie perfect? No, but it was a very good time and one of the better Alien movies to date.