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does this soften the flex rating of the boot at all?

what bike are you using for the BV trails?

I actually wasn't excited to go mountain biking in Salida. Now I am! Thanks for showing this!

I heat molded my Nordica Promachine at home. My approach is similar, slightly different and delivers excellent results. (1) Oven temp is 200F. (2) Heat soak is only 5 minutes. (3) After 5 minutes of fitting, I step into icewater bath with boots (make icewater bath in large Coleman cooler) for 5 minutes. (4) towel dry. Cautionary note: The time required to heat ski boots in an oven depends on the brand and the type of shell being molded. For example, Salomon's custom shell takes 10 minutes at 100°C, while their HD shell takes 2 minutes. Atomic's memory fit shell takes 5 minutes at 117°C. In general, you can expect to heat ski boots for 5-8 minutes at 220°F. You can use a laser thermometer to check that the plastic has reached a temperature of around 80-90°C. Convection oven HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Not even close to the best trail in CO.

Did you encounter the walk mode popping off while downhill skiing?

if you put any shells that have dyneema lacings in that oven you can kiss them goodbye.

Did you leave the footbeds in your boots when heating them in the oven?

You don’t have to remove the bootboard or liner insole when heating?

Work perfectly for my K2 b&e 2024, except I left my pro wrap Intuition liner inside. A huge thanks! I will reproduce it in the future 👍🏻

I used my smoker. My boots smell delicious.

Great video. I have never thought of this. Would you cool the boots more quickly by wrapping in a wet towel to set the plastic once you have achieved the desired shape?

I’m assuming I don’t cook my custom footbeds and pop them in after the shell and liners are heated up?

What about if my convection oven only goes as low as 300 degrees?

What about if my convection oven only goes as low as 300 degrees?

Definitely my favorite trail of all time.

I rode this once. Walked 2 or 3 spots, including Flight for Life. Didn't know it had a name. Got off the trail 6 or 8 times because I didn't know the way. And crashed once on a g-out that bucked me off my bike. But I loved every second of it. Spend most of my time riding the Midland system now when I'm in town. Love Unchained, Django and even the new Crank & hammer. Trying to get a group together to do Vitamin B again this Spring or Summer. Great video.

are you still skiing the Ranger 102's as well??

Currently on ranger 92ti 178cm. Looking at a set of these 102s. The 92ti are definitely have a charging attitude. Would these 102s make a better all mountain ski? I know they are more playful, didn't know if they were to wide. Go with 176cm on the 102s? I'm 5'11 165lbs.

Thank you for the honest review. I was dangerously close to purchasing because it's the price point I'm looking for, but they are definitely not for an almost-40, 180 lbs guy it sounds like.

I did this with a pair of Lange RS (blue) boots and liners as well as Lange XT3. I had fractured my 5th metatarsal and the outside of my foot is quite wide and causes problems. I put the liners in for the final 10 mins of the prescribed 17. So shells got 17 mins, liners got 10 mins at 220F convection. My foot was quite hot in the RS liner. More so than the XT3. In both I stood outside in the cold for 20 mins in the boots to let them cool to shape on my foot while leaning into the boots in a ski position. WORKED GREAT. Boots are literally form fitted now to my ankles and feet. Will be doing this again for future boots.

It's useful to have an in-oven thermometer as convection ovens don't necessarily show the true temperature (they may be calibrated to cook foods similarly to non-convection). Also, you can use a nylon stocking to hold the extra toe sock or cup in place.

I love this trail. I love the new Crank and Hammer loop off of Camp Elevation before you get to the driveway. Tie that into A Fist Full of Dollars and A few Dollars more and you have yourself an awesome ride.

Excellent instruction and video ! Thank you !!

Do I put them inside the oven after it reaches 220 degrees or right after i turn it on?

The video makes it seems you turn the oven to 220 degrees on convection without preheating. Is that correct, put the boots right after the oven is set to 220 without preheating the oven?

Grandpa can go with light pink

It is very important to mention that the temperature is mentioned in Fahrenheit, not Celsius. 😉🤞(220F is 104 degrees Celsius) This method is very good, and I have used it since the early 90s. 👌

For very simple feet, the video is ok, otherwise quite amateurs Video.

Intermediate Skier - mid 40’s - 5’-10” 200lbs. Was on Elan Explore 82 skis for 7 years - my first and only pair. Needed a big time upgrade felt these skis were Holding me back in getting better. I consider myself an intermediate skier, comfortable on blues and blacks. Most skiing done out west No so big on trees or moguls but will ride them occasionally I am still working on my carving technique still skidding down steeps, and love the occasional speed - have topped out at 46 MPH - I don’t consider myself an aggressive skier not getting any younger but I plan to improve my carving skills this year With practice. I didn’t want to get a ski that with time I would eventually overcome and stay stuck with I wanted a ski I would eventually work my skills and techniques into as I gain more experience and settle into it nicely. I don’t plan on buying another pair of skis in a loooong time as I am well invested in the Mantra M6. I did a lot of research on it and i understand it’s an overpowering and demanding ski. I am looking forward to the challenge. I am not concerned about the weight of the skis as I am in good shape and have strong legs turning won’t be an issue or fatigue. I am excited to purchase . Did I make a good choice?? honest thoughts? I am Ready to invest 👍👍

great video . Would you do the same thing with a BOA system boot? Got some Salomon S/PRo 130 BOA that are coming arriving next week . I would love to do that if i could

ugh thank you so much. if I had tried this before so much pain could have been avoided and so so much money saved.

Great video man! I would love to take you up on a photo of your route. I live in the area as well

I feel like the adhesive on my skins gets fucked up when I stick them to themselves. I use the mesh interface to stick one to the other.

I’ve tried them, and the walk mode keeps freezing. I had to carry a pocket knife to lock it. The boot is made of tpu. It affects the performance drastically making the boot too soft in the progressive flex while turning, carving, or charging. I sold them after the first season.

Do I throw my custom footbeds back in after I take my liners out of the oven?

Love this review. I am biting the bullet!

Great video man 🍻🍻👍✌️🙋🏻‍♂️

How to find out if my boot shells are heat-moldable?

Just put the boots and liners on a baking sheet. Liners started melting after a few minutes. Not sure if he uses some sort of paper or not but they melted on the baking sheet slightly. Luckily they’re used and I caught it before it got bad. I also did not have a convection oven

What about the 1? Wouldn’t that be better for groomers? Any comment on length?

Great video. I do appreciate the vistas you stop for. The riding isnt just about riding. Its also about the stopping, checking out views, dipping your toes in the creek.

I am a DAD. 59 yrs old and not jumping in the air much but still like skiing the bumps occasionally. I believe my foundational ski skill set is hard drive carving and everything else follows with minor balance and edging adjustments. I ski mostly in Oregon and frequent Idaho. I love this ski. It gives me everything I want out of a variety of turns (GS to slalom). I get a real pop out of the turns that make me feel like I am just floating on top of the surface of the snow until initiating the next turn. I like to call myself a "roamer". I like to ski runs from one side to the other searching for fun features along the way with the exception of bump runs. I do not like skiing in a crowd. My preferred style just conflicts with people that prefer a more straight line down. All that being said, I am glad I did not take the sizing advice and sized up to a 178. When I am skiing fast across the fall line in deep NW crud, I get rocked pretty good going across all the straight line ruts that were created when the snow was fresh powder. If I were on the 171s, I feel like I would lose even more stability. You definitely do not want to get in the back seat on these skis.

ok just did this at home thought i’d also shard my experience with heat molding. i got wide feet were talking WIDE so i’ve had my boots professionally heat molded for the shells and punched but still need to get the length sorted since my big toe protrudes a good 1/3in out. did this method 220 for 15mins for my k2 methods worked well used some tape on my socks to create a pad to push the shell. also u can leave ur liners if u like it definitely is a choice and don’t since your buckles down hard when you first get em on wait a good 15-30 mins for them to cool down then you can. i am in no ways responsible if you fuck ur shit. but good luck y’all

Thinking about these for a Voile 102 setup this year and thinking about this, Atomic Backland or an ATK which can “freeride” at way lower weight for the features. Thoughts with these and a lighter boot even?

What would be the « better options » for a 50/50 women/unisex ski? In the east we usually have less pow and more ice on slopes, but we like to tour!

“Leaning towards advanced?”

This is the old model without the 2022/2023 updates. Did you get on the new version to compare?

i did demo those skis last year.. the ones i demoed were green.. the day i was on them it was icy underneath turning to slush.. the skis were really surfy.. for wide skis i had no problem getting them on and off the edge.. i do want to mention that i started the day off on a pair of Stormrider 95s that were demos.. those skis were blown on at the heal before i even got on them but i did 6 runs on them anyways.. that was before the snow was turning to slush.. i watched your video on the 96s and i am curious to demo those..

I don`t even know what tictok is and I ski on Mantra M4 191cm. Very happy with them but today I just purchased the M6 184cm for a little variation.