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Vintage Computer Festival Zurich 2025: Retro Impressions
No talking. Just some nerdy retro impressions from last weekend's Vintage Computer Festival in Zurich, Switzerland.
Thanks to @VCFCH for organizing yet another great event!
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  • @marcbrasse747
    @marcbrasse747 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Best looking drumcomputer ever! 🤣

  • @dejstra
    @dejstra 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have same model but display is to white, can hardly see anything, is there any non soldering solution to this or shall i replace SMD capacitors?

  • @ZX48K
    @ZX48K วันที่ผ่านมา

    i do remember have a CD-R drive and upgrading from a 4x speed to 8x speed with a simple firmware hack

  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:09 - Indigo2s were not normally quite that expensive. :D In Feb/1996, an R10K/195 SolidIMPACT with 128MB RAM and 4GB disk was (with 25% academic discount included but not VAT) 27595 UKP, and of that, about 6K was just for the RAM. The 175MHz version would have been somewhat less, while the R4K/250 equivalent was 23192 UKP. To scale up the cost, an R10K/195 MaxIMPACT with 384MB RAM and 4GB disk would have been about 54000 UKP, the RAM responsible for 18K of that, ie. a 128MB kit cost 6K (it can take more RAM, up to 1GB, but 256MB kits didn't come until later, and the 512MB option was never official). What really blew up the costs was OEM software; I remember seeing a Maya/Alias licensing invoice at a movie studio around the same timeframe for 50K/year, while prices from Discreet might require the sale of a kidney, or an arm (whichever you disliked the least). I know someone who bought an original Flint system from Discreet at that time (R4K/250 Max/TRAM, 384MB, IMPACT Digital Video w/ VBOB, special CDROM base tray with SCSI extender to give an external port for channel 0, disk array with 4x 2GB on two channels, A2 Wacom, etc., running Flint 5.5) and it cost 95000 UKP (which would easily have been a solid chunk over 100K USD after conversion), but this sort of thing was an exception rather than the rule. 5:15 - No need for all that, just enter 'sh' at the first prompt. Interesting use of the passwd command though, I normally prefer to edit the password file with vi to remove the password, along with passwords for any other relevant user accounts to make things easier, ie.: /root/usr/bin/vi /root/etc/passwd 6:19 - There are better ways of doing that, but one extra step that's helpful is to go into the label menu and turn on write caching, this can speed up older drives by a useful amount. One can always run a sequential read scan later. Easier to just repartition instead and then mkfs a new filesystem, though when doing so I use the expert menu to configure a larger than normal swap, usually 256MB or 512MB depending on the disk capacity, installed RAM and what the intended tasks will be for the end recipient. For maximum certainty, run a full read/write/compare sequential scan before doing the OS install (never use the random option), I think the auto option is only doing a read scan. Note that SGI marketed the R10K/175 system as Killer IMPACT.

  • @Os2world
    @Os2world 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing this OS/2 video !!

  • @arcee420
    @arcee420 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Might wanna fix the typo in the title 🙂

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@arcee420 now, that you‘re saying it… ^^

  • @VCFCH
    @VCFCH 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for checking us out, and for making a video about your visit! Until next time! 👾

  • @JohnSmith-iu8cj
    @JohnSmith-iu8cj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many of these old boot managers seem to be written by Germans.

  • @JohnSmith-iu8cj
    @JohnSmith-iu8cj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing, boot managers are the best! Good old bootmagic and bootit. I will soon try grub. It can also chainload. I think it could chainload all the other bootmanagers as well 😂

  • @douro20
    @douro20 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's a rather unique Exidy Sorcerer.

  • @mattl_
    @mattl_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always nice to see OPENSTEP for Mach in action

  • @eugiblisscast
    @eugiblisscast 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you! I'll definitely try this as soon as I get the chance!

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome. There's other ways, but this one is by far the easiest.

  • @alisharifian535
    @alisharifian535 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do these old SGI compuets have any use beside exploring hardware/software and being basically used as a historical object? They are definitely not for retrogaming,acting as a server,porting back newer softwares and etc...

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SGIs were no gaming machines. Although there were games for it, too. And even some popular ones like Quake II and Quake III Arena were ported by the vendor itself, to show the 3D graphics capabilities. And the powerful SGis didn't actually do too bad on this behalf. Still, given today's standards, these machines are not only old, but also slow. You can of course run contemporary software on them, like on any machine from that era, at the example of SGI, Maya, Photoshop, and what not. That was, what these machines were made for. But as technology, and also the software has evolved, there's no practical use except, as you say, for exploring how things were 10, 20, 30 years ago. I once did a video how to do video editing using Adobe Premiere on a SGI O2 workstation. Can it be done? Yes. Is it meaningful? No, except for the showcase. And show is the server functions, which actually did exist in SGI IRIX. It could run as web-servers, DNS, NFS, NIS, and what not. But mostly, IRIX servers were used as 3d render farms, or SGI's own video conferencing product, to just give two examples. But again, nowaways, nobody would do that, as even the most recent MIPS-based SGI running the IRIX operating system was released in 2003. I don't think anyone is still using nowadays any Tezro workstations or Origin 3000 servers anymore in a production environment.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR Not so, there are vast numbers of SGIs still in commercial use in a number of sectors, mainly PCB production, textile manufacturing, medical, vis sim and defense industries (those that concern industrial control processes or management of external hardware). Most systems still in use tend to be Personal IRIS, IRIS Indigo, Indy, Indigo2, O2, Octane, Fuel and Onyx. Most company queries concern Indy, O2 and Fuel systems, though a major printer manufacturer bought some RAM kits last year, they're still using Indigo2s. AMAT SEMs were typically driven by Octane or Fuel systems, for PCB analysis, and its these which sustain demand for higher order parts such as V12, DCD, DM6, etc. Some people do use them as servers. Remember O2K type systems can have GigE, while O3K can use 10GigE. Personally I wouldn't, though ages ago I did use an Indy and then an O2 as a firewall box for a few years. I heard from someone who uses an IRIS Indigo for audio, because the quality of the audio chip is so good. The oldest system I've dealt with is a 12MHz Personal IRIS, still used at a textile factory in Ohio. I was also contacted by a US defense contractor looking for parts for a 4D Series machine, which is even older, probably an R3000 variant (perhaps a POWER Series, the guy didn't say). But where CPU performance is paramount, such as rendering, likewise raw 3D, then of course no, they've long gone from the market for that sort of thing, but a lot of people do get them so they can use older versions of pro apps which they favour, Power Animator 9.0 being especially noteworthy. Recently I sent an O2 to the US, to be used by a young guy who wants to learn old Maya, etc. I've talked to many in recent years who have setup old SGIs so they can explore or relive the 90s-style CGI that was popular in film, TV and animation back then (one guy was especially obsessed with Jurassic Park). One lady, a retired CAD designer, obtained an Octane so she could explore the work she used to do. You'd be surprised. However, companies that still have them tend to not want clients to know this is the case. I talked to a movie studio which still runs an Onyx3900 IR4 with Inferno, because the admin said it still worked fine for compositing (10GB VRAM and 1GB texture RAM), but they don't tell clients that's what Inferno is running on, it just runs very well and that's what matters. I'm helping a textile factory just now which is having problems with an Indy (called Stoll/SIRIX systems, they drive huge Jacquard weaving machines). Plenty of SGIs still around, but they tend to be in sectors about which hobbyists traditionally knew very little, and wouldn't immediately associate with SGIs. Texas Instruments, Digital Foundries, Canon Technologies, they all still use SGIs. Funny old world.

  • @Lofote
    @Lofote 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Strange that the it guys didnt wipe the data. Not good

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lofote These old machines, no matter where they come from, have a 50 % chance to still have a hard drive, and if they do, it’s a 99 % chance of not being wiped.

    • @Lofote
      @Lofote 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR I find that really dangerous. I mean if it was a private person, okay, they don't have the knowledge. But you said it was from a university, right? They should have IT staff :-o ...

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lofote No doubt and excuses about that. You'd be surprised though how many machines I came by which were obviously never sanitized. It's a clear indication, IT and security standards have not been very high years and decades ago.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR I've dealt with hundreds of SGIs that still had their OS setups intact, none had any compromising data, but true enough, certainly a risk. Infact the only item like that I encountered was a SCSI disk that had originally been used at a high school in London in some kind of PC system, it contained all the exam report docs, ID pics, disciplinary reports for the students, staff info, etc. It came from an IT recycler which was clearly not doing its job. Naturally I wiped the drive.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to know a way to cosmetically repair these beat up and scuffed Sgi machines. Especially those Indy blue boxes that are textured.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I get pretty good results using T-cut to remove most marks & scratches, via careful motions with a box cutter knife (plus a combination of antistatic foam cleanser and WD40), but it does take some experience to do it right (I've been doing it for more than 20 years). It's a little harder with highly textured surfaces like Indy, but still works. Easiest with O2, Octane and IRIS Indigo, while it's also ok with Indigo2 but one must be wary with purple systems not to do it too much or it can over smooth the texture. Curiously, the process works very well with the black base for O2, even though it's highly textured like Indy. Discolouration can be dealt with via retrobrighting.

  • @pianoman4Jesus
    @pianoman4Jesus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At @6:24 looks like a Teac brand FDD. I know Teac made SKU's which were FDD for SCSI. I am thinking that is what you have there. Neat find. 🥳

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pianoman4Jesus yes, it‘s a TEAC

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR I've dealt with quite a few of these SCSI floppies supplied with SGIs, likewise the Floptical. It's hard to find units that still work ok, they almost always need some cleaning & servicing, sometimes proper repair.

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mapesdhs597 yeah, I heard so particularly about the floptical drives.

  • @-account-inactive-
    @-account-inactive- 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More great content. Thank you sir! Action Retro has been playing with these also lately. Love getting double the Irix info. I've been thinking about these machines too. I'm a former OS/2 guy, did you ever try out Warp 4 ?

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ You‘ll find a few OS/2 related videos on my channel. I‘ve personally largely skipped OS/2 4.c back in the days, but I used OS/2 2.1 and 3.0 for quiet a while because of my Dad’s, until I transitioned away to Win95 and NT4. I hve some ideas for OS/2 for 2025, with a video coming in around March.

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A very obscure fact about these machines... The world's first "hubless" engine cooling fan was designed on the SGI Indigo in Carmel Indiana. Before that, all plastic engine fans had a large cylinder in the center with the blades coming out (think 99% of computer fans). The high end 3D capability of this machine made that possible.

  • @mudi2000a
    @mudi2000a 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was always curious about them but never seen one in real life. Thank you! I only worked with Sun servers and workstations. And we never used CD-ROM to install anything. In fact we didn’t even buy the CD-ROM drive. We always did everything over the network with Sun install server and network boot.

  • @asanjuas
    @asanjuas 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeahh cd-rewriter and compiler for compile burning tools.

  • @DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid
    @DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw this on Action Retro from 2 weeks ago. Your machine was got cosmetic damage, at least the front case was better here rather than Action Retro.

  • @paulpaulsen416
    @paulpaulsen416 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    *YEAH* SGI ❤ Thank you for the Video! 👍

  • @marcbarilla5584
    @marcbarilla5584 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks missed such a handy Tool. 😊

  • @IntenseGrid
    @IntenseGrid 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    $2700! for a lackluster PC, even in those days, this is the sh*t that Belooser used to kill SGI....many think intentionally.

  • @leereyno
    @leereyno 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read that windows 3.0 would install on some version of OS/2 1.x, but it was limited to running in real mode. This capability was removed in windows 3.1.

  • @IntenseGrid
    @IntenseGrid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about the empty holes that look like it would take an ISA slot? If you added a slot would it work?

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IntenseGrid IDK, as I didn‘t do a close-up inspection of the mainboard.

    • @IntenseGrid
      @IntenseGrid 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR It's on the bottom edge of the board, and the Apollo Pro 133A brochure shows "ISA" off of the southbridge if your look on the retro web.

  • @IntenseGrid
    @IntenseGrid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could you run Windows98SE on this? Are the drivers there for audio, game, lan, USB?

    • @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR
      @THEPHINTAGECOLLECTOR 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indeed, Win98/SE would easily run on this machine.