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Whiteoak Forge
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2011
Blacksmith, bladesmith and handmade crafts
March MFC meeting copper fire painting with Jim Pigott
March MFC meeting copper fire painting with Jim Pigott
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MFC February meeting Jim Pigott forge welding and basket twist
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MFC February meeting Jim Pigott forge welding and basket twist
A brief ; Making of a blacksmith flatter for MFC meeting
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A brief ; Making of a blacksmith flatter for MFC meeting with Palmer Valor forge , lon of bootleg forge , joe foreman forge , Kirk whiteoak Forge
January MFC meeting stone wash knife
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January MFC meeting stone wash knife Mississippi Forge Council
Offset bottom dies for a clayspencer tire hammer
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Offset bottom dies for a clayspencer tire hammer joe from Foreman forge and I played with this idea for awhile this what we came up with very versatile set of dies
punching a hole in a 11lbs sledgehammer billet
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punching a hole in 11 lbs. sledgehammer billet with Palmer of Valor forge , joe of Foreman forge lon of bootleg forge and Kirk of whiteoak Forge
installing g10 burl handle scales on stone wash knife
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installing g10 burl handle scales on stone wash knife
is it safe to put buck shot or slug in low brass hulls?
Anyone tried this with 410? I was toying with the idea of just pouring hot wax in the birdshot.. just as a back up for if I came across a pig or deer up close
I myself had. Have had nothing but problems with tapered hulls. I don't mess with them anymore. I just throw them away. I like the federal standard hulls with the white plastic basewad in them I have no trouble With them
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This is actually pretty darn useful! Thanks for sharing that, brother. We appreciate it
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Do you have a video of making the cutting jig?
It’s called a cut shell, way more easily done
Wheel weight*
If they will wait says FE it’s made of iron😂
I saw you used 1200fps , can you use 1350fps target loads ? Or is there to much power for the lee slug . G'day from Australia btw
As long as you match the original projectile weight you can
Did you make that die yourself, have it made, or did you purchase it?
Made it myself out forklift forks
No, don't do this. Slugs can be easily made from fishing stinkers or old wheel weights. Bird shot is hard to make and expensive to buy. Save that bird shot for small game.
Cut shell. It's free minus the ammunition and a knife.
THAT is a well designed shell cutter. You made it modular with an easy to replace blade vise....genius!
Did you get the idea for making the too to cut the crimp off by attending a bris?
Why not just buy a sack of bird shot or a bunch of fishing weights? Bench audio was low, at full volume. I use a self powered speaker, not laptop speakers. Good idea, make shells with simple tools.
He mentioned wheel weights and the birdshot he's dumping out of the shells, and he implied any source of good lead you can get your hands on. He's re-purposing the birdshot he doesn't want and using it to make slugs. Birdshot loads are by far the cheapest of shot shells so this is a super way to make a "poor man's slug".
Good info I wish you would of showed the crimping. I very never seen it done before but think I could duplicate your process
Audio was really low - I had to turn my system up to almost max... Just a heads up to check that before hand, bro... Great vid!
Sorry This was back before I had video editing software
Why would you cut the crimp end of a shell to load a Slug. Use once fired or new cases, buy some 12 Ga 7/8 ounce Target Wads, and just starr crimp like other reloads. Keep it simple. Casting slugs is an extra step and using Bird Shot expensive. Scrap lead available. Did you mention what type of barrel you used? Nice Pattern. Not likely a smooth bore. Have tried it, but not with a 20 Ga Slug.
Very cool video !!
Damn… less talking more doing…. I was waiting on him to tell his own origin story…..
Ive seen some just cut the sides of thebird shot shell and when fired it breaks off and holds all the bbs and acts as a slug, def less work
Take melted wax pour it on the shot close shell backup makes pretty effective slug
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So the powder charge for birdshot is the same as a slug?
Your not changing the powder load at all your just changing the projectile
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Thanks for the video
Cut shells are easy but require single loading into breech and none in magazine. A good skill to know in a pinch
I do this and I also do this for 00 and #4 buck
The use of much cheaper birdshot shells is the real cost saver here, but you could do it with any shot shells you have on hand but the next time just buy like #8 birdshot as cheap as you can find it
@@Hjerte_Verke is it safe to put slugs or buck in low brass bird shot hulls?
The least expensive, and readily available lead I've seen used for bullet making are automotive wheel weights; I suppose they could be used for shotgun slugs as well. An acquaintance showed me this technique of his way back in the mid-'60s. I wasn't aware of it at the time, but I later discovered that people's cars for 10 square blocks around us mysteriously lost all their wheel weights that one summer. 😆 Seriously, salvage yards generally give these things away.
Wheel weights are hard and will not expand like soft lead but will kill none the less
@@childoftruth1738 The original hard cast, eh!?
well done
Don’t most people just cut the shell near the bottom and don’t cut it all the way. Just leave a tiny bit still attached and when it fires the whole front of the shell leaves the barrel and acts as a slug
Yes cut shell, but with cut shells you can only load them in the camber one at time but with these you can load them in the tube and shot luke normal
@@whiteoakforge- oh ok
It's a lot easier to cut the top off and fill it with hot wax or Elmer's glue.
You cant shoot slugs out of a shotgun that isnt rifled it wont work properly. And never use bird or buck shot in a rifled shotgun. You will destroy your gun and over time blow up the barrel.
I Never suggested shooting buck or bird out a rifled it would spread to much unless your with in 5 yards it's pointless ,and say you can't shoot a slug out of a smoth bore because it won't work properly is depending how accurate you really need it to be most people don't need rifled slug barrel to hit a 12 inch plate at 50 yards
Sounded soft
I was thinking of a cut-shell.
Open the shell pour out the shot into a tiny cast iron skillet ( decorative ). Melt that shot to liquid pour into a 16mm. 12 point socket. Cool and punch out. Install back into shell. Push down the crimp. fire. You dont need to do all that with all those tools. Only work with one shell at a time and the powder will always be right. Imlo.
Interesting! Did you do this and did you notice any change in accuracy?
Need to be carfull using wheel weights in shotgun slugs. They don't stage through the choke like pure lead that the mold desighners engineered it be used
I have to say, I have a one oz Lee drive key mold and I am not impressed with the accuracy. I have tried numerous hull, powder, wad and filler wad combos and only achieved mediocre accuracy. (smooth bore, rifled bore, rifled choke and different choke restrictions). The wad/filler wad definitely affects accuracy! Even the filler wads get stuck in the slug, I have contemplated filling the base of the slugs with a hard light weight substance, maybe a foam filler with an epoxy binder. This "plug" stays in the slug and would stop the wad from getting forced into the hollow base. I have also contemplated filling and gluing the filler wad to the slug, , similar to other manufactures, I think Breneke does that. The filler wad would need to be non-compressible so it didn't end up tweaked and cause accuracy issues. Another note, I followed the Lee process of using the star crimp vs roll crimp, I do want to get a roll crimp tool and try that. As far as smoking the mold, Lee recommends using a butane lighter, I prefer the long BBQ lighters, better reach and less burnt fingers. So many experiments, so little time. LOL
Alot of people have problem with accuracy out of the 1 ounce mold 7/8 ounce has been the most accurate for me
Whiteoakforge is right. It seems the vast majority of folks report poor results with the 1 oz.slug, so much so I'm surprised they still offer it, but just as many or more report good to excellent results with the 7/8 oz. version. Swap your 1 oz. mold off for the lighter version, & you may have much better results. Also, the Lyman "Diabolo" 525 grn. sabot slug design has a rep for very good results, even from smoothbore guns.
@@grantgarrod2232 Yeah, I plan to pick up a 7/8 oz mold (they were out of stock when I last was wanting to order one) but have a problem with throwing in the towel when trying to figure out a solution LOL I will still try to figure out something with the 1oz and also get the 7/8 oz. Suborn I guess.
you can also just make them into cut shells by cutting behind the shot in the shell about 40% on one side and 40% on the other so when fired they will break away and the hull shot cup and shot are one package that will really come apart on impact. do at your own discretion and care it is dangerus. low brass only
Yes im aware of cut shell but they can only be single loaded. So as long as you only need one shot there great,, easy to use but if you want a tube full of them they won't work.
You could probably weigh the slugs and recast any light ones. Any voids would make them light.
Are you starting with 3 inch shells to get 2 3/4 inch slug rounds?
Shouldn't use short brass for heavy loads, not good for the gun and not good for the shooter.
The it's not a heavy load, it's the same weight as the bird shot its just one solid round vs several hundred rounds
Reshaping a pound of clay from a square to a ball doesn't make it weigh more.
why not just do cut shells ?
Because cut shells can only be loaded one at a time these can load in the whole tube
Cut shot shells exist this guy “NO”
If you read a few of the exact same comments, you'll know why he did it this way.
Speak louder please. Couldn't hear half of what you were saying.
Should never smack the mold on the screw where you hit it holding the slug, you want to smack towards where the handle pieces come together that spot with wood only because you can bend your mold I did. A old timer told me this and I didn't listen, I actually bent my first mold like yours after making about 200 of those things because mine's stuck more than most I guess? it still works but it's harder to get together. I had to get another one for faster slug making.