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What Bible do you use? and what is the name or your Church? The Church's of Christ will pray for you and also Salute You.

you people think by Grace everyone will be saved, everyone will go to Heaven, we don;t have to do the thing God tells us to do to be saved. I hate to tell you but your ar wrong. Did LOTS wife do what God told her to do? No she did things her way and God turned her into a pillar of salt. Did Adam and Eve do what God told them ,No Eve ate of the tree of knowledge and God kicked then out of the Garden of Eden, Did Moses do what he was told to do, No he was told to speak to the rock and water would come forth but he hit the rock with his staff and God didn't let him enter the Promas land for that Now you people are wanting to do things like you want to do instead of what God tells you to do. That's why you are called Denominational Churches you change The word of God to something you like better. god tells us in REv. 22/18-19 not to add or leave out any of his word or he will leave you out of the book of life.

I respond to this video's false doctrine here: God vs World: saved by faith only? -- th-cam.com/video/MBcr9QFJzPU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UFhLEOjYXhaJ-0mV

Stay away from Andy Stanley. He has strayed from Gods word

I am a member of the church of Christ and I am saved by the grace of God. I have never done anything to merit my salvation. Baptism does not earn salvation. Salvation is earned by the blood of Christ. Baptism is when I receive what Christ has already done on the cross for me. Baptism into Christ only works if I am outside of Christ before it.

JF: Thank you for your calm and reasoned presentation, it was informative if not quite on the mark. As a 47-years member of the church of Christ, I would completely disavow any connections or likeness to the ICOC. I've dealt with people from that situation, and your assessment of them is correct. I am disappointed at your statements that church of Christ imposes a salvation-by-works demand on people. In my years, at about 18 congregations in 6 states, I have never heard anyone says that salvation is obtained by works of man, and I seem to have missed all the hellfire and brimstone sermons. I concur generally that the delineated 5-step plan of salvation is a little much, but it is not without NT basis. Every conversion to Christianity in Acts included water baptism, and if that is considered a work for salvation, I think that a commanded action and one described as leading to salvation is needing doing, not discounting the multiple passages which speak to faith and grace. I think a fair assessment would consider all relevant passages, and our job as students of God's word is to find the answer that lets all of them be true. As a final note, I am disappointed that this really wasn't about 4 cults, but just the one group of your own bad experiences. I'm sorry you fell in with those people, but they are not the norm. Do I sound like a hardliner if I say let's do just what the Bible says? Matt 12.50

"Sometimes it is best to keep one's mouth closed and appear to be ignorant, than to open it and remove all doubt." Pity the poor souls who believe the garbage in this video... The blind leading the blind.

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Justification by faith alone is the biggest lie in history - Jesus, God, Moses, or any true prophet - taught no such thing. "Romans Proves Paul Lied", "The Valediction of Moses", "Why the Bible Began", and "The Origins of Judaism". Wake up and stop being stupid.

1. You are a heretic. 2. No one should greet you or eat with you until you teach the truth. 3. "Faith Alone" is demonic. Even the devils believe. 4. "Once saved always saved" is nonsensical. Disobedience has always destroyed souls. 5. Repent

Utter rubbish!

GOD'S Plan For Our Salvation...(Short/Condensed Version) The Holy Bible definitely teaches that there are steps that a person must take in order to be Saved and to come to CHRIST. We Must Hear the Gospel of CHRIST, for Faith comes by Hearing the Word of GOD (Romans 10:17). A person must Hear. The fact that we have sinned, GOD loves us, and CHRIST died for us is learned when the gospel is preached. In Every case of conversion found in the book of Acts, people first had to Hear...Romans 10:17, John 5:24, Acts 2:37, Acts 8:6, Acts 8:35; Acts 9:6, Acts 10:33, Acts 16:14, Acts 16:32, and Acts 19:5. As we Hear we learn that we have sinned...Romans 3:23, that GOD loves us...John 3:16, and that CHRIST died for us...Romans 5:8. Without Hearing the Gospel Of CHRIST, we Cannot come to CHRIST...John 6:44-45. Upon Hearing GOD'S Word, we must Believe...Mark 16:16, John 6:47. We Must All Believe in CHRIST, for Without Faith it is Impossible to Please GOD (Hebrews 11:6; John 8:24). This is another way of saying we must have Faith. Our SAVIOUR in John 8:24 said, if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins. Some denominations teach that a person is saved the moment he or she believes, but that is Not true. If that was true, then why was king Agrippa just almost a Christian? He believed...Acts 26:27-28. Why aren’t the devils saved? They believe...James 2:19. No, it takes More than just Believing and Faith only to be saved...James 2:24. A person must also Repent...Acts 2:38. We Must Repent of all of our past sins, for GOD Commands all men, every- where to Repent (Acts 17:30-31; Luke 13:3-5). Our LORD taught that Repentance was absolutely Necessary in Luke 13:3 and 5 or else we will perish. That is why Saint Peter commanded people in Acts chapter 2 to Repent. Repentance is a Turning...a Turning From Sin and Turning to GOD. If, upon Hearing and Believing GOD'S Word, and we are willing to Repent, then we all Must then Confess that our MESSIAH and CHRIST is the Only Begotten SON of GOD...Matthew 10:32, Matthew 16:16; Acts 8:37. Confession is made with the mouth unto (in the direction of) salvation as stated in Romans 10:9-10. Again, We All Must Confess our Faith in CHRIST JESUS as the Only Begotten SON of the Living GOD and our LORD (Romans 10:9-10). For HE said, He that Confesses ME before men, him will I also Confess before MY FATHER who is in Heaven (Matthew 10:32). Confession of our sins (1 John 1:7-9) After Confessing CHRIST to be the SON of GOD, then we all Must be Baptized...Acts 2:38, Galatians 3:27. Baptism is the another step that helps to save us...1 Peter 3:21, because Baptism in the Holy Bible is for (in order to have) the Remission (Forgiveness) of our sins...Acts 2:38. Let our salvation be patterned after those we read about in the book of Acts! Again, We Must All be Baptized into CHRIST for the Remission of Sins, for saint Peter said, Repent, and be Baptized everyone of you in the Name of YESHUA CHRIST for the Remission of your sins (Acts 2:38; Mark 16:16). Now these first several Steps (Hearing, Believing, Repenting, Confessing and being Baptized) are only for Qualifying for the Race and now We All Must actually Run the Race that is set before us all...1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Galatians 2:2, Galatians 5:7, Philippians 2:16, Philippians 3:14, Hebrews 12:1-2, 2 Timothy 4:7, 2 Timothy 4:8. Running the Race is actually the very difficult part after becoming a christian or disciple of CHRIST. You know that in a Race all the runners Run, but only one gets the prize. So Run to Win! All those who compete in the games use self-control so they can win a crown. That crown is an earthly thing that lasts only a short time, but our crown will never be destroyed. So I do not Run without a goal. I fight like a boxer who is hitting something-not just the air. I treat my body hard and make it my slave so that I myself will not be disqualified after I have preached to others. Let us Run the Race that is before us and never give up. We should remove from our lives anything that would get in the way and the sin that so easily holds us back and entangles us, and let us Run with endurance the Race that is set before us. After Baptism, then We all must Live a faithful godly Life in CHRIST and Live a Faithful Life for CHRIST. We all need to walk in our CHRIST’S Light...Revelation 2:10, 1 John 1:7. We also need to be CHRIST like in all we say and do, and in CHRIST church we must worship GOD in spirit and truth, partake of the LORD'S Supper every first day of the week, Praise and Glorify HIM and be a Servant and a Disciple of CHRIST. One must Live Faithfully as a disciple of CHRIST, Live for CHRIST and stay faithful to GOD...We Must Have Love For GOD and Everyone. We are all Blessed If we keep and do our GODS commandments...Revelation 22:13-14. We must encourage and edify others to stay faithful and fight the good fight faith until the end of our earthly lives. We must rightly divide the words of GOD and put them into practice what GOD teaches us from the words of life. We must also test the spirits of mankind in order to see if they really are from GOD or if they are from the evil one. We are saved by continuing in true righteous obedience to our only GOD, for this is showing that we truly Love our GOD if we obey HIM and keep HIS commandments...Revelation 2:10 Faith alone without works will not save us, for our GOD said faith without works is dead as per James 2:14-26. There is no such thing as once saved always saved, because anyone can fall from GOD’S Grace and be eternally lost. Once Saved Always Saved is False Teaching and False Doctrine and it is Only Wishful Thinking. We all should be willing to Suffer like and for CHRIST. A woman cannot speak or teach men in church meetings or church assemblies or congregational church service meetings as per 1 Corinthians 14:33-37 and 1 Timothy 2:11-12. Women must remain or be Silent in the churches of our LORD and GOD. A man must not wear a head covering or a veil whenever he prays to GOD and a woman must wear a veil or head covering whenever she prays to GOD as per 1 Corinthians 11:1-16. Our GOD is Composed of Three Spiritual Divine Beings...our Heavenly FATHER, HIS Only Begotten SON and our LORD and MESSIAH and CHRIST, and our HOLY SPIRIT. They All make up One GOD in Unified Oneness or One in Unity, One in Purpose, One in the Way, One in the Complete Truth, One in Patience, One in Meekness, One in Everlasting, One in Justice, One in Righteousness, One in Mercy or Mercifulness, One in Holiness, One in Hope, One in Perfect/Perfection, One in Harmony, One in Love, Etc.

Thank you so much for sharing this video. The Church of Christ caused me to turn against my family. They made me believe that they were the only ones who had the truth, and everyone else was false. They made me think that I could only be saved by staying with them, and if I left their church, I would be lost and go to hell.

You are calling Cambel, Scot and stone as leaders of the Church of Christ. Are they the writter of the Bible, is there anywhere they claim to be the founders of the Church of Christ ?. To me, all your writing doesn't hold any water. Repent of your sins so that you will be saved.

There's no doubt what is written in 1Tim.3:1-4... that in later days this type of heresies will come up. If you say church of Christ is a cult, who is the head, where was it formed, what's their philosophy ie, what do they believe that it pertains to cultism. What is their symbol and what book do they use. Church of Christ is never a cult, go back to your research because this one has failed you. COC started in Jerusalem as was prophesy in Dan. Isaiah, Amos and Zachariah. There's nothing you can show to prove that the church is a cult. My advice to you is that you should not allow yourself to be used by the devil to write falsehood about the Church Christ established in Matthew 16:18-20.

Catholics also say that they are the original and one "true Church".

One faith one Lord one baptism is true for all people everywhere. Immersion is God's timing for salvation. Ecumenicalism is the greatest cults distracting people.

Sola scriptura is NOT found in Sacred Scripture and never taught by the Apostles

Amen brother i love how you break down true Biblical Theology in such simple but POWERFULLY ways of understanding 👏 🙌 😊

The Church of Christ is a dead church.

The fact that the title calls several million people “cult members” doesn’t seem very Christian to me, true or not. Is this an exercise in triumphalism? I don’t see the point in putting time, effort, or money to attack others when one could be spreading the words of Jesus. you know “The Good News” Or making disciples for that matter.

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It will also hopefully help to set many people free if they read...Christ Rescued the Thief's Testimony from the "Church of Christ" by Lee Anne Ferguson, for it reveals what the restoration cults have been hiding for centuries concerning these crucial issues.

Im church of Christ and raised by the king James bible we go by the new testament Jesus Christ died on the cross to save us from our sins . Next time you go making blasphemy against a church maybe you should get to know the church.

I do not agree with Joe Franklin in his assessment of the churches of Christ and the SDA.

He starts out with the demonic doctrine of "faith alone". Enough said. This video is a Trainwreck. I will debate you. Let me know when.

You started out by using the phrase, "faith alone." So, I looked it up in the New Testament. I only found ONE verse with that phrase..."You see that a person is JUSTIFIED by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE." (James 2:24) So, it seems, that Christian Faith is a combination of faith and some kind of works. We know that the "works" of the Law of Moses are futile. So, there must be some other works by which we are justified. Perhaps, James, earlier in the letter, makes clear which works? "But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing." (James 1:25) "And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, SAVE YOURSELVES from this crooked generation." (Peter -- Acts 2:40) So, we are not justified by "faith alone." That's a "doctrine of men" wrested from Paul's admonitions to those who were already believers at Rome and in Galatia. "There are some things in them (Paul's letters) that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures." (1 Pet. 3:16) Peace to all...and...keep prayerfully studying!

Yes, thank you I read the Bible. What’s the verse about Romans16:16 mean ??I read the Bible about this and go deeper another scriptures. It looks like it was founded in AD33 and not founded by any man! you keep bringing up church of Christ is found by these different guys, but these guys didn’t even live in AD33. please clarify, just wondering.

You forgot the Catholic Church - that should have been the top one.

The Lord died for His church. That’s how important His church is. Romans 16:16 KJV Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you. This is THE ONLY church you will find in your Bible. And Jesus Himself left His home in Heaven to take on flesh to purchase His church with His own blood. There is only one doctrine, there is only one church. This is what the Bible teaches. And the Lord’s church has been in existence since Jesus went back to Heaven and has nothing to do with American culture, but obedience to God. No matter how smooth and articulate someone’s argument is it’s jibber jabbish against the word of God. What is man’s wisdom?? He provides the gift of eternal life, He makes the rules. Our job is to submit and obey.

yummy, it's nonsense like this guy made me look into SDA.

Dude sounds like a hater

Faith alone says do not obey the gospel, because obedience does not save, even though the Holy Spirit plainly instructs the need to obey the gospel (1 Peter 4:17; 2 Thess.17-9). Moreover, everything else to claim is false and damnable.

"Faith alone" is false. The only place where the phrase "Faith alone" is found, tells us that justification is NOT by faith alone (James 2:24-25). And here is a "clear passage" that needs no hermeneutical approach. Therefore, the phrase "Faith alone" is actually used in a negative sense, opposite of the CONTRIVED way "Faith onlyism" uses the phrase. Back to the drawing board for those following Luther, and not Christ.

Icoc / ICC

The church of Christ is the church that Jesus established in Jerusalem at Pentecost AD 30, Acts 2. Nothing more and nothing less. Denominational religious organizations worldwide that didn't exist for 100s of years after AD30 deny it to support their own heresies. The convoluted nonsense on this series is no different.

All churches that claim to have restored the gospel through modern-day prophets are false. Each of their prophets add to the bible contradict the gospel and scripture. The people in these churches can't see it because they are taught not to question their prophets however all are daughters of the harlot and are spawned from the same source. When you look at their doctrines, they all give extra biblical "revelation" that contradict and twist scripture. They all diminish the diety of Jesus Chrits by subordination. They don't understand the nature of God the father, God the son abd God the Holy Spirit and belive they are separate and that two are suborniate to God the father, not equal which is against scripture. All are works based and believe that somehow God's will is dependent upon thirler choices, which it is not. They clay does not dictate whatcit is to the potter. Yet they all believe God's will is dependent upon their choices, denying God knew the end from the beginning and that many things were predestined.

There is no one denomination in heaven. You must believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father, Holy Ghost will guide you and help you understand what God wants from you. Belief will bring forth good fruits of some sort and will lead you to levels of obedience and discernment. Christians must obey to the best of their knowledge as we will be judged on what we know. Once you will believe you will want to obey. The fruits of a Christian is love 1 Corinthians 13

Unfortunately, I had a bad experience with I guess an old school CoC member. I believe salvation comes first, usually by the preaching of the word and a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit. Baptism is a command and a sign to show my new brothers and sisters in Christ what has happened to my inner man. However, the CoC gentlemen adamantly believed that you are only officially saved after baptism. I had been immersed in the Baptist church but he did not recognize it as valid and offered to baptise me again at the Coc church under their witness. He explained to me that I was not a Christian without the proper baptism and that the new life I thought I had was a deception. This was funny because he openly confessed that he had been baptized 3 times in his life so that he could be sure he was saved. Odd, I had learned from the bible that it was the testimony of my mouth (confessing that Jesus is Lord and fulfilled all that was written) and that I would be known by my fruits. I did not know mortal men could see into the hearts of men and know if they are the Elect of God, but I guess this fellow could. He never could come to calling me a brother in Christ.

If you are save by faith alone, then you do nothing you are save?

I was a member of the ICOC for 7 years. I am now a Catholic. Here’s my take. Protestantism is a religion of opinion of men and those opinions are constantly changing. You give 10 men a Bible and you very well might end up with ten different sects. A futile attempt to restoration. The Catholic Church which produced the Bible is the real religion. The Bible that Protestants debate over today isn’t even the original Bible. They cut out stuff they didn’t like. Crazy. I will stick with a Church that has its origins from the beginning not some group in 1979 in Boston or in Germany in 1517.

Church of Christ created and founded by men Or church of Christ (found by Christ) Which one is he referring to ?

I heard you say that church of Christ is a cult. I heard you say that tell people what Jesus to his apostles in Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-16, Acts 2:38-42). If you say that some one who teaches what Jesus commanded is cult. I see you as a very wrong person and an gent of Satan. Your understanding is controled by the devil. I am hearing this from Uganda a member of Nandwa church of Christ in Eastern Uganda. In Busia Uganda.

You are soon far off and deceived to the point of being a type of the antichrist

Sir, I find it quite interesting that you would say that a cult is one that teaches "justification by faith alone". There is only one place in the bible from Gen to Rev which uses the term "faith alone" and it is proceeded by the word "not". In that book of James there is an important statement about this idea. James writes about Abraham, an often listed person who was saved before and without lifting a finger. Lets actually read what James says on this matter. Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works (when) he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Jas 2:22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS ACCOUNTED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS." And he was called the friend of God. Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. The word "when" is an adj. and it's temporal. It tells us "when" at what point Abraham was considered justified by God. Maybe you have never actually read this verse. You also simply don't understand what the word "faith" means. Its the Greek word "pistis" and it's a noun. It NEVER means believe. That would be the word pisteuo in the Greek. That is the word correctly translated believe. NOT faith. Most bible translations are from those who are reformers. Men who believe in the Luther doctrine of faith alone. That is a vile concept Luther picked up from some of his friends like Wycliffe and Huss. The bible NEVER teaches the faith alone doctrine. Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. Notice this tells us "when" Abraham did what he did "by faith". It was "when he was called" . What did he DO? He obeyed God's instructions. You must think he should have said to God, "no way Lord, I don't believe in working my way to heaven" you need to read Luther. Abraham "obeyed by faith". Faith is what God told him to do. Another adj, "when". You really need to actually read the words written by the inspiration of God and believe them. Thanks, Post Hole Digger

International church of Christ is a totally different denomination than the church of Christ. There is no relation between the two.

As a recently departed ICOC member, this is good but needs updating. They have gotten more subtle in their approach, not teaching obedience for salvation and teaching salvation through the indwelling Holy Spirit. There is much less control, little talk about discipling, and most congregations resemble normal orthodox churches adhering to an Arminianist viewpoint. The main points you make about, original sin and conditional security are not as relevant as they used to be as each item is debated by Reformist groups as well. Baptism for salvation can easily be argued as not a work. It is a physical act, but that does not make it a work. A work is, strictly speaking, obedience to a Law. If God wanted to or needed to use water baptism as a conduit for the indwelling Spirit, he could choose to do so. Acts 19:1-7 is probably the best passage on baptism that would need to be countered.

You use the term “works” a lot; could you define it? Thanks. I’m thinking something in the range, “an act of obedience to a law” to “anything in addition to faith and grace”.

I’m looking for some support for the statement, “baptism by immersion as an outward sign of an inward grace is the norm in Bible times”. Thanks.

Oh ye foolish Galatians, Read The Great Controversy Free online it will sort you out Mr Franklin.