Elizabeth That Was
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Adelaide That Was: Monarto (Dunstan's Folly)
In the 1970s, following the early successes of the new Satellite city of Elizabeth in the 50s and 60s, the South Australian Government began planning another city development for the 1980s in Monarto, a farming community east of Adelaide.
As with the northern plains, the site on which Elizabeth stands today, the SA Government started buying out local farmers, some of which were reluctant to leave.
In speeches given at the time, then premier Don Dunstan, promised that Monarto would be a uniquely Australian city, more liveable than Canberra and more diverse in both population and industry than Elizabeth.
The federal government of Prime Minister Gough Whitlam gave $10 million worth of funding to the Monarto project, worth about $66 million in today’s dollars, as part of a wave of spending on new cities.
In the end though, the new town at Monarto would never be built, needlessly uprooting an entire community.
This was not the first time Monarto’s residents had been dispossessed, of course. The area got its name from Queen Monarto, a local elder who lived in the area when the first European colonists arrived in 1847. “Older settlers remembered with apparent glee that their families had hunted off the Aborigines from their land with stockwhips,” historian Robert Linn wrote more than a century later.
The descendants of the German, Scottish, Irish and English settlers did not have such a physically brutal experience; and they were financially compensated for their losses.
Nonetheless, the acquisition of the first properties, which had belonged to two farmers who had been struggling financially, created a snowball effect, with the SA Govt. quickly swooping in and acquiring more properties as locals saw their neighbours pack up and move away, adding pressure for them to do the same. Some locals had purchased properties elsewhere, subject to finance, only for the government to turn around and offer them 75 per cent of the value they’d originally promised, putting land owners in such a position that, in the finish, they had to either sign off or lose their deposits,”
Original projections for Monarto’s eventual population were for 100 to 200,000 people. Today it stands at just over 200 people. It is ironic that a government which wanted to massively increase Monarto’s population wound up driving so many people out of the district, absolutely destroying it.
Perhaps Dunstan had been trying to match his predecessor, Sir Thomas Playford, whose founding of Elizabeth had been one of his crowning achievements. But by 1974 it became clear that the baby boom had ended, the Post WW2 immigration boom was winding down and that the new contraceptive pill had all significantly reduced population growth. That, in turn, meant there was no need to build a new city on the plains and Federal funding for the Monarto project dried up after Labour’s Gough Whitlam was replaced as Prime Minister by Liberal Malcolm Fraser in 1975.
The original Monarto site is today home to a massive Safari Park, the largest Safari Park outside of Africa. And I can’t help but wonder what the Northern Plains might look like today, had the plans for Elizabeth also fallen through.
The following footage tells the story of the people who lived in that original farming community, their way of life and the impact of having to leave their land. It also gives us a glimpse to what life may have been like on the Northern Plains before Elizabeth was built.
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Adelaide That Was: Holden's Woodville and Elizabeth Plants 1948 & 1960
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Sneak Peek: Blessing or Curse? (Holden Seals Elizabeth's Fate) Full video Friday 21st June
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Elizabeth Icons: Steve Prestwich and Jimmy Barnes
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Go West: Creating the western suburbs (excerpt from City of Tomorrow)
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South Australia 1961: Elizabeth: A Place To Grow Excerpt
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"Elizabeth is a brand-new city with a bright future, a good place to grow." South Australian Housing Trust in 1960. Produced in the early sixties by the South Australian Housing Trust, "Elizabeth, A Place To Grow" was meant as a calling card for prospective new residents aimed primarily at attracting suitable white English stock.
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Elizabeth in Pictures:1964
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Elizabeth That Was Presents: Adelaide to Glenelg Tram Ride 1987
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  • @KnightsblooD.Of.thE.RedcrosS
    @KnightsblooD.Of.thE.RedcrosS วันที่ผ่านมา

    did gm really considered that we made better car's than them, they still cant sell their over priced shit they still make today.

  • @kelstra1997
    @kelstra1997 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess the end was inevitable but let's never forget the Abbott government's efforts to kill it before its time.

  • @deidreevans1791
    @deidreevans1791 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So sad 😢

  • @DanCook733
    @DanCook733 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lived on Tidworth Rd in the 80's and 90's, still remember Munno Para shopping centre being built!

    • @DanCook733
      @DanCook733 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Elizabeth North

  • @henrymcvey6538
    @henrymcvey6538 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve experienced working in great plants left to die. No worse feeling. A very moving video.

  • @vincentthao3497
    @vincentthao3497 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello mate, just letting you know that the Elizabeth Park mother's and babies and the Elizabeth park girls Guides have been demolished for housing 😢

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, Vincent. Much appreciated. I didn't know that. Actually, to be honest I didn't realise Mother's and Babies was still going. Another direct link to Elizabeth's early days severed. Thanks again for the info, mate. Will :-)

  • @goofygoober2382
    @goofygoober2382 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I go through that with my bus ride :) its really fun

  • @paulduffield2102
    @paulduffield2102 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many people on here lived next to Jimmy Barnes 😂

  • @deanmarsland867
    @deanmarsland867 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow thanks for that made me remember the good old days shopping with mum and dad when i was a kid dam now there dead and im old haaaaa but happy.

  • @bentstrings5962
    @bentstrings5962 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have lived in northern parts, east and west, of australia for the last 30 years. But elizabeth still feels like home...especially after this bit of nostalgia. The TAFE where i did my trade school. the YMCA over the road. The centre clock and gardens....loved growing up there. different times

  • @Robert-r4s4c
    @Robert-r4s4c 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In 1963, when i was 17 years old, i was invited to visit two elderly cousins i had never met. One lived in Adelaide and the other was a manager of a sheep station in Wilpena Pound. I spent two weeks with both cousins. The one in Adelaide had a daughter living in Elizabeth. This was my first holiday away from home (Sydney, NSW.) It was an unforgettable experience.

  • @Robert-r4s4c
    @Robert-r4s4c 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In 1963, when i was 17 years old, i was invited to spend 4 weeks in South Australia to visit two elderly relatives, i had never met. One lived in Adelaide, who had a daughter living in Elizabeth. The other was a sheep station owner from Wilpena Pound I spent Two weeks with each relative. In Adelaide i often went to Glenelg beach, and saw a couple of movies. On the sheep station, i rode a horse for the first time. It was my first holiday away from home and the experience was invigorating. I think Elizabeth was very new in 1963.

  • @1991shane1991
    @1991shane1991 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An today it’s full of junkies

  • @craigwarren7716
    @craigwarren7716 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Steve was a chisel legend and will always be remembered buy me for he's amazing drum work and the songs he wrote for chisel even though there was only a few but I'll never forget the ringside concert even though I wasn't there but still bought the DVD and he's version of all I want to do was truly amazing what a legend l truly wish he could have been there to finish what Chisel started God bless you Steve and your family l will never forget you 👍

  • @andrewmcphee8965
    @andrewmcphee8965 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The music is annoying.

    • @henrysevern
      @henrysevern 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, but gives a feel to the time, which was different from many ways to the present.

  • @sarahhollow5368
    @sarahhollow5368 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My grandparents were ten pound poms, they came to Australia when my father was 3 years old, but settled in Para Hills not Elizabeth, grandparents still there and going well in their 90s, and I'm blessed to have them in my life.

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is a blessing, Sarah. Thank you for watching and sharing with us :-)

  • @MysticOblong
    @MysticOblong 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video. It was very interesting and I really enjoyed watching it.

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My pleasure. Thank you for watching :-)

  • @mattcecil6692
    @mattcecil6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the hell happened to this country

  • @brickpaver1
    @brickpaver1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s ’RAILWAY station,…… NOT TRAIN Station..😡

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So easy to shoplift back then.

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Factories all in China now.

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barnsey!!!!!

  • @rojominava03
    @rojominava03 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My grandfather was the builder who built the first 10,000 + houses in Elizabeth with a contract that gave him £50 profit for each house. They designed 6 styles and to keep costs minimal they used these same 6 designs and just flipped them over or changed the angle of each one on the block. You can see one of his cranes on the left about half way through with E. F Marshall on the truck door. He was awarded an OBE in January 1964 for this which I have a framed replica of. Very proud of him.

    • @rojominava03
      @rojominava03 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The houses he built and the contract he had were for the Housing Trust and the name on his truck was Marshall Transport not E.F. Marshall which was the firms (and his) name

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonderful info. Thank you. And you deserve to be proud of him. I would be, too. Thank you for sharing that. Much appreciated. Will

    • @joy-n5l
      @joy-n5l หลายเดือนก่อน

      @elizabeththatwas thank you. I've got his medals from ww1 plus the OBE with a photo as well as his brother's war medals (he sadly was killed in action in France) beautifully framed. He did a lot for charity and my father continued this along with his brother in the family firm. I also have a book on the Housing Trust and its development including the Elizabeth era

  • @user-ye2ge4zo5lhennypenny
    @user-ye2ge4zo5lhennypenny หลายเดือนก่อน

    This would be in 1963 ❤❤

  • @electricdiesel1993
    @electricdiesel1993 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Behold the late Queen Elizabeth the so-called royal Head of State was so interested in Australian made Holdens on 21st February 1963 Her Majesty personally opened the GM-Holden Elizabeth facility (hence her namesake town) then Elizabeth had a 1982 Vauxhall Viceroy Estate was her present from Holden actually badge engineered as the Commodore VC 3.3 wagon rather than the Opel Commodore. Alas in 2017 Queen Elizabeth didn't always aware the Holden Elizabeth plant was untimely closed and finally on 2020 Holden is extinct and it was history in the name of GM. On 2022 the longest-reigned Monarch Elizabeth was passed on, then what's next for Australia in the name of the so-called King Charles? Does His Majesty knew Holdens much more than MGs (his MGC or SAIC-MG Motors) couldn't do justice for Australians unless the very old King must save the motor industry with all his royal fortunes where the mouth is? Then ironically turn former Holden cars into rebadged MG cars and furthermore MG should make the first Australian Holden into MG4's ironic electric RWD family car or Cyberster's roadster rather than boring hatchbacks, FWD SUVs or Thai diesel-guzzling utes.

  • @dilza607
    @dilza607 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that was my class room when it was called smith creek primary school in early 2000's

  • @CC-in9tz
    @CC-in9tz หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the late 1960's or early 70's there was a show ride tragedy. I think it was called the Bomber. Anyone remember?

  • @ACDZ123
    @ACDZ123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That aboriginal woman would still be scratching around in the dirt looking for a meal if it wasn't for England.

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad! 😢

  • @IBISChannel32
    @IBISChannel32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @MartintheTinman
    @MartintheTinman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never caught a Train until I became a Tram Driver. We had a free travel pass. Only employees were allowed to stand at an open door by then '88

  • @DejanKeepingitReal
    @DejanKeepingitReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I grew up on Hume street Salisbury north between 1990-2003. So many memories, good & bad. How time goes fast. This was an interesting video thoroughly researched. Great content.

  • @GeoffreyVerrall-s1s
    @GeoffreyVerrall-s1s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see the old Round Up which became the Gravitron later on..

  • @bradhewetson
    @bradhewetson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regardless of what genre you follow-if you believe and truly take it to your heart-play respect to your Superstars-never giving an abandoned name and support them forever-remember they have given you so much+music is the greatest art form that will ever be?.

  • @bradhewetson
    @bradhewetson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why have dash split up so often you say-the answer is easy and simple-just when you think you're fans cannot take anymore the guarantee your success you depart and leave them wanting more-there is a reason everytime they release any sort of music-it shoots straight to number one-Dino and understand-not only are they genius musicians-they know and understand their targeted audience-and take advantage so-f****** Legends and guards chalet forever remain!.

  • @nevininni2709
    @nevininni2709 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a great question, what will the a Holden look like in 50 years time? Well in 2048, Holden will be a long distance memory. Only 22 years from when that video aired, Holden was finished in 2020.

  • @garyearth8265
    @garyearth8265 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adams road was the original main track to Gawler from the Little Para river crossing near Salisbury's Old Spot Hotel, following along the foothills. This is why many of the areas oldest homesteads were built on or near it. Pretty much at each creek crossing a homestead was built, in the late 60's there were about 5 still standing from memory. The suburb of Hillbank was the first to chop it up and slowly it was cut up further until only the northern part is still used. An old farm house still exists on (the now) Blackburn/Bogan road cnr Hillbank (next to the old Drive-in). There was a farm on Adams rd/Kinkaid/Willison road cnr Elizabeth East, who managed the old horse riding paddocks for many years. The Adams homestead Whytebanks is now Jubilee Park on Adams creek, located between Elizabeth Park and Craigmore, the last traces of the ruins only disappearing in the 1980's. The Hogarths homestead was last operated by the Watson family and its yards are now part of the Smith Creek walking trail. Craigmore's Estia aged care center is built upon it now. Their was another still working homestead in the early 70's on Adams rd/Craigmore rd corner behind the big water tank.

  • @judithhobson5868
    @judithhobson5868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so many friday and saturdays at the skating rink . was my younger brother;s home training rink for state trials and my younger sister and i trained at the swimming pool beside it three or four times a week from 6ish in the mornings . no heated aquadome in those days lol

  • @Didz
    @Didz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is the start and end cut out? The video goes further out of sync with the audio. Video is blurry and 25 frames per second leaving out one entire field. TH-cam supports aspect ratios other than 16:9, adding pillar boxes is not needed. I have uploaded the full video.

  • @yellowtheresunshine
    @yellowtheresunshine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So wonderful to see. Thank you. I was telling my 13 year old son about the chair lift and Mad Mouse and could show him ❤

  • @stuartstibbs2069
    @stuartstibbs2069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Youre so negative. Its all nonsense. Industry comes and goes, its a fact of life. Happens everywhere...Lizbuff is great, Ive been here since 1959, I ve seen it all. 😊

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are countless of positive tribute videos on this channel mate.They are not all "negative," as you put it. I began the channel to pay honour to those I grew up with. Maybe instead of being so negative (ironically enough) about what I have created, you could stop being so negative and critical and create a channel of your own?

    • @stuartstibbs2069
      @stuartstibbs2069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elizabeththatwas The work you do is good, but always a bleak picture of Elizabeth.

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stuartstibbs2069 It is not always a negative view. There are hundreds of videos on this channel. It is you who zeros in on the negatives, ignoring everything else. This particular series, in fact, helped me out personally, through extensive research, to understand many of the problems that came to harshly impact many of my friends and their families. This channel has been created with a pure heart and deep affection for where and when I grew up. I think it's all too easy for people who aren't producing anything at all to criticize others who care enough to do so. If you have actual research that contradict any of the info in this series, please reference them, instead of throwing blanket accusations at me about being negative and leave the channel for those who actually appreciate it. You don't have to keep watching. Sheesh

  • @VivienneWest-k3n
    @VivienneWest-k3n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elizabeth was a town where you could go and find a job from many different factories. It had shopping centres in all different areas and then we had a large shopping centre with Jon Martin's, Woolworth, Coles and many smaller shops. Just to walk down to the centre and look around was excitement in itself. Outside, there was a small parkland where you could sit under a tree in summer. And of course, the pond with the fountain to stand under on a hot day. Across the Main North Road, there is Freeman Park with a large pond, which ducks would swim around and you could take a walk around the many paths.

  • @stuartstibbs2069
    @stuartstibbs2069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magic. Spent a few sunburnt hours at Bethbury swimming pool! 😂

  • @judithhobson5868
    @judithhobson5868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my mum and dad got the 3rd set of keys given for the housing trust in the south . what i remember as a child was christmas mornings, going out the front and all the kids of the neighbourhood with their new bikes riding up and down goodman road. we were having a ball!!!

    • @elizabeththatwas
      @elizabeththatwas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sounds amazing, Judith. Thank you for sharing that with us. I sometimes think how amazing the sky must have looked at night, in those very early days with hardly any houses fully occupied or built. Must have been quite a magical time. In its own way, of course. The lack of amenities must have proved its own challenge.

    • @judithhobson5868
      @judithhobson5868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elizabeththatwas lol what i remember of the skies was in summer and the dust storms

  • @danrussell9411
    @danrussell9411 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There also used to be a skating rink at modbury in the 90s before it closed.

    • @leighdavis9522
      @leighdavis9522 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They showed Skateline Modbury in this video.

  • @geoffmacauley4940
    @geoffmacauley4940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Larkhill was a proposed name for Elizabeth? I grew up in Bulford Street, Elizabeth North, not far from Larkhill Road.

  • @VivienneWest-k3n
    @VivienneWest-k3n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Effectly some of the small shopping centres started to closed down because of the large Elizabeth Shopping had a large number different shops. And of course there was John Martin's department store.

  • @franzchong9315
    @franzchong9315 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s not forget ex Elizabeth or Salisbury things like J1’s and before that TL3 and T530 plus the 500/502 and before that TL10 we’re not invented yet or didn’t exist so it was this train or 45 minutes to an hour on the quickest bus of the day.

  • @Kawazaki73
    @Kawazaki73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it. Remember it all so well. I can smell it

  • @stuartstibbs2069
    @stuartstibbs2069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eliz. North shops...we called them the new shops, as opposed to the Hilcott St shops ...were magic. Had everything, even a library... back when people read books. 😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉