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Yep, No Frills, but does the job.

Thank you!

Thanks, and good luck!

Good to have the right size of steel tubing just laying around.

You are most welcome, and thanks for commenting!

I certainly appreciate you doing that...and making a comment.

LOL! That would be problematic, as they say.

Absolutely no one cares

I've heard the same type of complaint from other commenters about quality control going down over the years....seems to be happening with a lot of items, not just air guns, on the market these days. Seems like "out-sourcing" that great "cost saver" loved by all the consultants in the 90's might of had a cost after all. Time will tell. Thanks for the comment!

@@brianwilke592 You think I care enough to read your comment?

No, sir. Haven't been told that until now, but I'll take it, I used to like Lou Holtz. (Gave up most TV sports in 2020, and never went back).

I shot the original version quite a bit in the video I did last year. Same gun. I didn't really notice it was that accurate...average. After 5 yards the grouping scattered. With the upgrade it seemed to scatter less at the 7 yard mark. And it obliterated the Daisy shatter disk, which is cool. The ordinal version just kind of broke the shatter disk in three pieces. That's my experience; yours may be different, and thanks for pointing that out. The 300 fps might well be the "sweet spot."

Spent many hrs a few yrs ago with 3 “Walmart” Red Riders. Tested gun springs, air tubes, barrels mods, every available brand of BBs. Really enjoyed it. All accuracy ck were done off rests, 4x scope and 30ft indoors. Also used chronograph to ck velocities. I settled on approx 300fps with std spring and drilled out air tubes. I believe the heavy springs caused excessive barrel “jump/vibration”. The biggest dia BBs shot the best, these were “Marksman” brand BB. Amazon carried them at time. They were several thousand bigger and very concentric. At 30’ I could do 1 1/4” 5 shot groups --as with most shooting there’s always a flyer. I bought 100 4.5 mm Ball Bearings. These were perfectly round and exactly 0.177” dia. Shot some 3/4” groups with them. At 10 cents each -I didn’t do any plinking. Thanks for video. Enjoy the Daisies.

@@daisymae6561 Sounds like you did some extensive testing. Just curious, why not just get the 499B. It will give you super great shot groups. You'll have to pay more for the bb gun, but you are buying really good quality. I've got one, will do a video on it some day. I will try your bored out tube theory, with a 105, in several videos. (The main jist of those videos will be making entirely new stock...just in the idea phase now, but if I'm going to go to the effort to change stock, would like a little better performance too). Thanks for the excellent comments. I get comments from guys like you, and I take them to heart...always learning. Love to have you subscribe if you haven't already.

Thanks for the reply. I’m sure the 499 would be more accurate, like to know the bore dia. The std Red Rider runs around 0.178”. Most BBs runs 0.172+/- . That’s a lot of “slop” as it bounces down the tube. The “Marksman” match bb runs 0.177” and more concentric than others. The Crossman coppers are some of the worst I’ve measured. My opinion is bb fit to bore is the most important issue for accuracy. Plus concentricity. Started messing with Cobalts springs several yrs ago. Actually blew a shot tube thru the abutment with one. To me velocity is second to accuracy. If u don’t hit it-- I got into Airsoft guns to see how they could throw a plastic pellet so far and remain true and straight. ASU know steel BBs start sailing shortly after leaving the barrel. Well the secret is backspin achieved by a “hop up” device That creates backspin. . Amazing what that does for a plastic (6mm) bb that weighs less than the 4.5 mm steel bb. So I’ve tried to place rubber tubing in the top of the shot tubes, to create backspin. No luck, unlike the hopup device which engages the bb at launch, the rubber has to be placed farther down the tube. Haven’t found the magic yet. Need the service s of a toolmaker:). I’m working on another modification, trying to stiffen the shot tube. Still think the shock of the plunger hitting the abutment seal affects the accuracy. At 300 fps it takes a “long” time before the bb gets clear of the shot tube, lots of time to bounce the tube around. Nice talking to another Daisy addict. Stay in touch.

Thanks you!

That's right. Good reference.

Thanks for your kind comments.

Unfortunately, I have no expertise in gas springs for that type of Daisy. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@ thanks for replying

Hey Big Luke! Yeah, I've got three Hooks hats. That is the coolest logo, the two hooks shaped like a C. Besides any team that plays at Whataburger Stadium has to be cool. I haven't been to a minor league game in years...last one for me was the Chattanooga Lookouts (another cool logo hat) back in their old stadium, the one featured in Alabama's song "Cheap Seats." My son lives down in Victoria, and I visit there a bit. I love the Texas Coastal Bend area. ( I did a video, not one of my more popular one about kayaking on the Matagorda Bay with my Super Drifter air rifle) I have gone to Corpus numerous times, usually hit Mustang Island there too, and Rockport, even thought about going to Whataburger Stadium just to say we've been there, but every time we were in town, they weren't. I subscribed to your channel. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@ awesome! I live right on Nueces Bay so thats where I do most of my fishin. My little Girl turns 2 in February and we got another on the way so I look forward to watching your videos about red ryders they will come in handy with my little ones as they get old enough!

I used Crosman PelOil. The information on the spring kit is in the Description section with the e-bay dealer's link.

Mostly MiniWax Gloss Finish spray lacquer, from WalMart.

Thank you!

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I did. That is what the first 10 samples were. 02:55.

Thanks for watching Good luck!

Thank you, and same to you David.

Yeah, you gotta watch out for them soda cans looking at you wrong! LOL. Have a Merry Christmas!

Okay Kurt. Thanks for the "expert" review.

You know. This is an open forum, and I was expressing an opinion.

Yeah, I noted the WalMart where I filmed the first part of the intro was all sold out last Monday. And they probably only had about 10 in there when I was filming that, which I think was mid Nov. I don't know why Daisy decided NOT to promote the Red Ryder this Christmas season. Makes no sense to me.

That would be really cool!

Thank you for your comment, and support!

Thank you for the very nice comment.

@@brianwilke592 You're welcome. Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Agree 100 percent with you. I took this 880 apart in a later video (Whoops! This is an "old style" Daisy 880" I discovered this one has a flat head piston vs the indented heads they use now. The casting was better in my opinion. I ran chrony on it after I put it back together, and it runs consistently 10 to 20 fps than the contemporary Made in China Daisy's. That video is indexed in the description part above.

@brianwilke592 I knew they hanged the piston. I just wonder if the old style will fit the new? Shouldn't be anything one more pump wouldn't make up for, at least I wouldn't think. I enjoyed your new red rider video. I never knew how they came apart.

Thanks for the tip!

Thanks, Johnny. You've been with me the entire time, and I sincerely appreciate it.

I'm hoping this thing can be tinkered with like my 362. I've already got the parts (aluminum breach, extended brass probe, and scope) ready to go.

Thank you; I'm glad it helped you out!

Okay, thanks.

Few of my air rifles do as advertised I have found. This Red Ryder chronied at 288 last year when I first reviewed it. Wasn't surprised. They can defend that by saying "with alloy pellets" or "under ideal conditions." Thanks for commenting!