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Should we ban offensive words? | Josie Pagani | The Common Room
Puffin - the jolly-sounding publishers of Roald Dahl, recently teamed up with the less jolly inclusive minds, to update Dahl’s books for children.
‘Keeping them relevant for a modern audience,’ they said.
Well, sounds innocuous. We update texts all the time to suit modern tastes.
Agatha Christie’s And Then There Were None was originally published as Ten Little N-words. Well, no one would seriously suggest publishing this classic under its first title.
Even Roald Dahl updated his own work. The Oompa-Loompas in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were originally a fictitious African tribe of pygmies. He re-wrote them as racially neutral to avoid offence.
We’re not changing the stories, argued the publishers. Just updating old-fashioned words.
Well, sensible pruning is one thing - wholesale changes, another.
This is about freedom of speech and artistic expression - not sensitivity.
Here’s an example. Dahl’s witches all wear wigs (because they’re bald), but, as he wrote, “You can’t go round pulling the hair of every lady you meet... Just you try it and see what happens.”
To avoid offence, Puffin’s more accessible version reads: “Besides, there are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.”
That's like making Cinderella wait for the ball, while the sensitivity readers remind us - Remember girls, you don't need a prince to be happy!
Do we really have to drain the magic out of these stories for a quick lesson in inclusion?
Old fairy tales can be read in a myriad of ways. Their versatility is what gives children power.
Children’s author Sally Gardner says that the gritty realism in children's stories reflects real life, and gives kids the hope of a way out.
The child trapped in an unhappy home might think there’s no way out. “Give them Rapunzel and you give them hope,” she says.
Children love the naughtiness of Roald Dahl. The spikiness. The meanness.
Removing those elements - just a little bit - leaves us with beige.
New Zealand Writer Joe Bennett compared Dahl’s words with the publisher’s rewrites:
Roald Dahl wrote:
“Aunt Sponge was terrifically fat and tremendously flabby at that.”
'Fat sounds fat, and flabby sounds flabby', said Joe Bennett. They paint a picture.
To avoid offence, the publishers changed it to:
“Aunt Sponge was a nasty old brute and deserved to be squashed by the fruit.”
Those words create no picture at all.
Roald DULL!
The list goes on:
Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is changed from "enormously fat" to just “enormous.” People no longer turn white with fear. And the big friendly giant in BFG no longer wears a black cloak.
So where does it stop?
Charlie and the carbon-free carob factory anyone?
The Big Friendly Giant becomes the average sized friendly person.
There are 400 years of literary culture. Do we sanitise it all?
No one would get eaten or sliced open in Little Red Riding Hood.
The big bad wolf in The Three Little Pigs wouldn't get boiled - but rehabilitated.
Once you start making edits like this, you leave an artwork in tatters.
This is part of a broader attack on free speech that treats bad words like unopened packets of chips - irresistible. We must be protected from ourselves in case they turn us into terrible people.
In New Zealand the National Library culled 600,000 colonial books, including Shakespeare, because the Bard is part of a canon of imperialism.
Even if he were, that canon is part of who we are, the source of everyday expressions like wild goose chase and eaten me out of house and home.
These are cliches because they describe universal experiences.
So we don’t need to be protected from the words of the past.
Christopher Hitchens said, ‘Freedom of speech is the essential liberty without which all the other freedoms are either impossible to imagine or impossible to put into practice.’
‘Words matter’ states the prim notice in Puffin’s latest Dahl editions.
Yes they do. So stop deleting them.
One person’s offensive word is another’s call to freedom.
Polite people don’t change the world.
American Slave owners in the 1800s tried to ban the words of anti-slavery campaigners for being offensive to white people.
Who is going to decide which words are offensive?
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  • @gracefool
    @gracefool 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The basic premise here is false. Social changes can come from the top, and have. For instance the example of decriminalising homosexuality, followed now by criminalising the attempt to persuade people *not* to be homosexual ("conversion therapy"). Economic issues cannot be separated from values; this is an attempt to win the argument by definition, for instance assuming neoliberalism or globalism are good or at least socially neutral. Culture wars always exist and cannot be avoided. Yes the left all over the West is increasing division, however this has been building for hundreds of years as majority values shifted. One of the most concerning things is how most of the left, especially the younger left, no longer believes in free speech. If we don't hash these things out with words, there can be no resolution apart from violence. As we see happening in the US. Although it should be noted that this has happened many times before in communist revolutions. A better word for the modern culture wars is Cultural Revolution.

  • @overover..
    @overover.. 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where did the common room go?

  • @uciteljica6381
    @uciteljica6381 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great lesson, great explanation. Like your wofks, professor Moon. I am interested in your sources about Josip Broz Tito. As we know, he did not negate Slovenian and Macedonian people, but quite opposite.

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nope. She allowed Marxist Atheism an opportunity to get crushed in NZ. National, Winston and Shane will keep it crushed. God defend New Zealand 🙏💪

  • @user-um1wr2fg8x
    @user-um1wr2fg8x 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, for the worse

  • @Abuamina001
    @Abuamina001 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Worst Prime Minister in New Zealand history. Period.

  • @rjh6037
    @rjh6037 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If history didn’t matter then all the lefty weirdo’s wouldn’t be so driven to revisionism.

  • @PhilWilliam-hx6xh
    @PhilWilliam-hx6xh หลายเดือนก่อน

    None of those so called news sites allow comment here in NZ on YT for eg. They have taken millions of NZ citizens tax payers money yet they do not abide any kind of commentary reaction on their own one sided BS so called “news reporting”. We need companies that can make their own profits from advertising rev etc and report the news in an even way instead of taking every opportunity to tack what isn’t left. Newshub, TVNZ, etc are all financially incompetent. No more handouts Good riddance.

  • @3Kiwiana
    @3Kiwiana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She has completely stuffed New Zealand, I just hope we came come back from it.

  • @PaulMcEwen-dc4mr
    @PaulMcEwen-dc4mr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She’s a total narcissistic slime ball, never to be forgotten for what she enforced on the New Zealand population.

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She died. RIP Jabcinda WEF.

  • @RajHidesHere
    @RajHidesHere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ardern gave away the country. Gave the self-proclaimed victims entitlement and written into law that takes away fro our democracy that will be hard to get back.

  • @druckerman247
    @druckerman247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not for the better.

  • @user-mm8pj4cm8j
    @user-mm8pj4cm8j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arden did so much damage to social/racial harmony.Creating a special class of people’s with more entitlement than others,thankfully the majority of kiwis were wide awake,saw the damage being done and sent her packing. The new coalition government is now working through this damage and hopefully creating a society where all people’s are equal,where everyone has the chance to succeed in life

  • @user-bg9sg8cm3s
    @user-bg9sg8cm3s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hence why it’s collapsed 😅kiwis are sick of this leftist bs. That’s why everyone stopped watching because shows like the project are crap

  • @Battleneter
    @Battleneter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% extreme bias in the NZ media, spreading racist division and then calling others racist when they are called out.

  • @neillewis785
    @neillewis785 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one but the fools still voted Labour

  • @ISavant
    @ISavant 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lmao "we got one of new zealand's most idiotic right wing hacks to complain about how nobody likes him"

  • @tonyp1340
    @tonyp1340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People have a short memory, and Ardern will be forgotten long before the country recovers from the mess she left behind. Meanwhile she is enjoying the adoration of strangers in America, who know nothing other than what they are fed on social media. Even an honorary doctorate at exalted US University. What a woman! From serving fish and chips and being paid peanuts, to $500,000 a year, plus ongoing benefits. Not bad for a devoted socialist. One has to wonder if she will pop up someday as a celebrated philanthropist. I think not.

  • @Ruakituri
    @Ruakituri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aunty Jacinda done what I never thought possible in my lifetime yet here we’re. Real transformation in coming for the betterment of everyone

  • @mustardtiger5080
    @mustardtiger5080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that about sums it up perfectly....

  • @davethewave7248
    @davethewave7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who pulled down statues, burned books, and denigrated professors in the past? The radcials and revolutionaries. It's the same thing, just taking on a different form. Radicalism [a certain way of viewing history] not history is the problem.

  • @davethewave7248
    @davethewave7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What matters more Mr Moon? Disinterested history or your career? Please stand up to the radical revising of our history by political activists.

  • @taiwati7472
    @taiwati7472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to Ardern she opened the doors for National....by fkng up & fkng off😆😂🤣😅👍

  • @bubbagump3793
    @bubbagump3793 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On RNZ this morning you are once again moaning about online abuse you suffered whilst an MP? You yourself generated that justified response with your irresponsible and failed social policy that failed economically disadvantaged people it was your responsibility to take care for! Wear the shame forever that you yourself created 'sweetie'!

  • @chaywilder6278
    @chaywilder6278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I showed a leftie mate of mine the 5:1 ratio of left:right journalists and he said "what's wrong with that?" Isn't it amazing? If it were the other way round, the crybaby intolerable left would be throwing tantrums left right and centre ;)

  • @bake084
    @bake084 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I strongly agree. The lack of a working class voice in parliament is a scandal. If we end up with a populist government we will deserve it.

  • @davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213
    @davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big assumption here is that by growing ‘the national pie’ we will all be better off. This is another version of ‘trickle-down’ economics which has been shown not to work.

  • @nicholassanders591
    @nicholassanders591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clearly someone whose neither worked in the public service nor a regular user of those services…

  • @winstonsmithsoul
    @winstonsmithsoul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Equity is not possible and has never been achieved anywhere or any time in history..... T. Sowell.

  • @pcmetro23ify
    @pcmetro23ify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ardern drove a wedge into the New Zealand public but we managed to stop it, with a new right wing government. Ardern flew on Air New Zealand last week with 6 security officers, answers the question.

  • @Hot4Thot
    @Hot4Thot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Equality means the same Rights, Status and Opportunities and Equity is "harder to define"... so obviously the only good option is Equality. Why would I support somethi g that is illdefined, or defined in the moment by a group of individuals who have been given authority. Authority by who? Equity is clearly nonsense

  • @katefloss973
    @katefloss973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    her legacy is she entered parliament with 800,000 dollars around, and left with around 25 million. thats her economics

  • @katefloss973
    @katefloss973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what rubbish. New Zealands immigration overload has left the nationals of the country, homeless, jobless and healthless. 2.5 million foreigners now outnumber the NZ maoriAnglo people. the polytechnics are all going bankrupt due to free schooling for immigrants that dont want to pay.

    • @neillewis785
      @neillewis785 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly... 500,000 plus in the last few years.yet the unemployed number in the hundreds of thousands.thats socialism for you

  • @jessicaparsons7396
    @jessicaparsons7396 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a load of...false equivalence.

  • @tatjanakane503
    @tatjanakane503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely not

  • @harbourhaven
    @harbourhaven 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Until iwi have 50/50 control of the government nothing will change. Labour made a lot of progress towards this, and we must unite in protests to stop the current government trying to backtrack.

    • @kiwigrunt330
      @kiwigrunt330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, thank you.

    • @user-um1wr2fg8x
      @user-um1wr2fg8x 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, no thank you

  • @pascaledelos7537
    @pascaledelos7537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could have been a very interesting vid. On the contrary this korero feels very twisted intellectually from the start.. dropping the Equity concept because it is… too difficult to grasp (what?!). Undermining the concept (and consequently the implementation/funding/etc) of equality under the pretext that equal outcomes are ‘impossible’ shows an intellectually and morally wrong thinking/behaviour. No political party is advocating for all to become doctors, scientists, writers, artists, etc.. This korero eventually makes this Dr sound stupid!

  • @JenniferCox-cw3wb
    @JenniferCox-cw3wb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Equity does not mean equal outcomes for all, so the whole argument falls over. Equity is about being fair and reasonable.

  • @kensharkey1110
    @kensharkey1110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting interview of your's with your journalism Mina.

  • @user-yy4uz4fg6s
    @user-yy4uz4fg6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arden did a lot of good for the people and New Zealand who ever keeps criticising Jacinda are the negative society the type who fault find and never see any goodness in anyone .

    • @kiwigrunt330
      @kiwigrunt330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Princess Jacindarelly was the most divisive 'leader' NZ has ever had. Good riddance.

    • @user-um1wr2fg8x
      @user-um1wr2fg8x 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like creating inflation and putting the country in a deeper hole then giving the low wage workers a rise creating more inflation and higher prices for all commodities. Robinson and Ardern government too record tax anworse outcomes for everyone, everyone

  • @matt-nz3739
    @matt-nz3739 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To Mike King, I like your interview with Jenny May two years ago. Mental Health system is TOO BROKE!! I spoke to the Mental Health about my older brother's medication and why there has been no proper psychiatric assessment done for him for over 30 years, and the same medication he has been on has made life for him worse as the years have gone by. I went to the Police to talk about my older brother and the medications he has been on for many years. Yet the Police gave me the Mental Health Crisis phone number. I did ring the Mental Health Crisis number and gave them a earful about the psychological and emotional abuse I have suffered at our house because of a medication that has made my older brother worse as the years have gone by. I believe Privacy Laws need to change to make things easier for the system to recognize family members and what they have experienced with those who take psychiatric drugs at home and have those talks more openly. Matt

  • @stevepang378
    @stevepang378 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are saying the same things that: Luxon, Seymour, Peters want. Let us see that they make reality for all of us. In a short time, thinking back, we are so far down the tube right now. Like investing in a product with a shrinking market biting us.

  • @p.n.gwynne
    @p.n.gwynne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    trust nothing

  • @tatjanakane503
    @tatjanakane503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God, no!

  • @DavidGabrielCarter
    @DavidGabrielCarter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who was on the benefit for three years and constantly in and out of jobs, I do really relate to Paula’s story. She was a solo mother as a teenager, received welfare, felt inspired to go back to work but returned to welfare when she was exhausted, then eventually made a fresh start for herself following a serious tragedy in her whanau. I haven’t experienced a similar tragedy, but I do relate to the exhaustion that working causes, and the need for some support when you’re still figuring what’s best for you - or in her case, for her and her daughter. HOWEVER, while I understand her reasons for welfare reform when she was MSD, it’s not healthy for the government to be pressuring people to get off the benefit and into work. My time on welfare, as someone with a neurological disability, would have been far more stressful if I was in a government program that was pushing me into work before I was ready. Having welfare as a fallback really puts my mind at ease, knowing that I can at least eat if it turns out the job I’m in isn’t right for me and I need some time to figure out what’s next - or worse, if I suffer a crippling change in circumstances or I suffer another breakdown (which can happen to anyone), I know I’ll still have support. She’s totally right on victimhood - you can’t help when bad things happen to you but you do choose to be a victim. But I understand how her reforms fell flat with the general public. If you push people too hard, you push them away and it’s not progressive.

  • @rodmccourt3665
    @rodmccourt3665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I understand the sentiment of this piece, I do feel that it is rather misleading. The implication from Josie is that we will have no choice but to buy the edited versions of Dahl's books. This is not the case, as Puffin will be releasing the old unedited versions in parallel, providing a choice of whichever version you wish to purchase. This is hardly an attack on free speech, the mere fact that we are able to discuss it on this platform is further evidence that we are able to think and speak freely. I, myself, prefer the original versions of the Dahl books and will be reading them to my grandchildren in due course. I am very grateful that I live in a world where I am free to choose. So, come on people, let's stop overreacting to this imaginary threat to our freedoms and focus on issues that really matter.

  • @winterrising8738
    @winterrising8738 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasnt Fakechel Smalley telling unvaccinated people should not receive any healthcare and all should be jabbed? Now I've found out she works for Big Pharma as a lobbyist. Isnt this a clear conflict of interest? Very corrupt.

  • @mike666nz
    @mike666nz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is an utter and total disgrace.Cancer is a major big deal, amongst other disease. Totally retarded ideology.

  • @stryka777
    @stryka777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your right, we dont all succeed by a mass over-redistribution of money. BUT nor do we succeed by allowing massive flows of capital from abroad to buy all our houses and assets etc. (We saw how little we had in terms of resources during Covid). Your party wants to let interests from abroad buy property here over 2 million dollars - a low threshold for the literally hundreds of thousands of transient millionaires circulating around the world right now. All to recover some shitty stamp duty. In the regions of NZ I live I've seen kiwis priced out of the local market over and OVER again. I'm an old school Lefty. But I've gone Right over the years. But in reality, there is nowhere for people like me who hate the loser culture of the Left but also dont want to sell NZ downstream to the highest bidder. Just saying.