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you must go through the steps , the world abbot , kenneth chung age 84 is still on world tour 60 yrs , see san josa si gung ben der , or san fransico si fu , francis der .... thx , fcbk,.wing chun fresno calif (kenneth chung linage 1991)....see the current mma, JJ, awards posted ..... thx to ken , ben , chue ....

Yes, San Jose Wing Chun

Jack of all trades master of none. Manson Gibson for instance was a spin kick specialist, 100 wins, 80 KOs, 40 head kicks, from mastering the same technique 'a thousand times'. This basic principle or philosophy of 'kung gu' is the difference with the premise of your argument which although seems logical and practical can contradict basic tenets of wing chun and kung fu that by definition seeks mastery at ONE THING. I would also posit that wing chun is a type of kung fu, that no martial art is a perfectly complete or invulnerable system but each has strengths and weaknesses, all lack in one area or another. Each branch of kung fu falling under Shaolin and branches of Chinese theory and philosophy also applies this theory and emphasises various aspects like department faculties or sub-disciplines. Either a person chooses to be a specialist OR a generalist. You mention "competitive MMA or ring fighting" and that certainly has value but it's also limited to a sample population of fighting styles and fighting rules that "real combat scenarios" do not have and are totally unpredictable if the opponent is unknown to you. From a very distant culture or someone who is totally original and creative in their fighting style. For a kung fu person to take the MMA route is only possible AFTER fully mastering one art first, or maybe their education was incomplete with had gaps and flaws to begin with (many share this problem after the Cultural Revolution). > The reality of fighting, especially outside regulated environments, can be deadly; classical martial arts training offers limited practicality against multiple attackers, armed opponents, or professional assassins. This is true. The history of kung fu is quite vast though, ranging from Shuai Jiao wrestling as a past time of aristocratic Chinese clans, an ceremonial religious ritual (evident in Sumo), or developed into a 'martial art' with weapons training for protecting imperial envoys and rich people travelling along the Silk Road. Kung fu in the last couple of centuries is classed as 空手 hung sau "empty hand" kung fu, implying that it is inferior to weapons training and that martial arts academies were for a long time, for maybe some millennia solely about training various ancient warfare weapons. This is why 'forms' appear ridiculous or impractical because in the past the person trained in WEAPONS FIRST such as shaking 10 foot poles to condition arms, core, hips, and train internal "qi" in preparation for a lighter 6 foot spear in the battlefield. Thus, much of the strange hand movements in kung fu are in fact designed for weapons training, for survival of the family/clan, and for protecting the village and kingdom from invaders. But in the last hundred years kung fu in South China where it was the richest place in the world for a while became a kind of gentleman's duelling method a means to sort out civil disputes. Much like French people practicing fencing swordsmanship is quite a wimpy useless needle against a battle axe, cannons, and rifles. That is essentially what kung fu is in practical terms. The modern world now having a fairly functional legal system and police nobody really needs to fend off bandits, carrying weapons at home, bringing weapons to protect their loved ones travelling by horse or carriage on long journeys, etc. Had modernism not happened almost for certain "kung fu" would be a private family secret and not known to the Western world. It doesn't mean that wing chun or kung fu doesn't work but these systems were definitely designed to work in a 'kung fu only world' and the application in mind a lot of the time was in preparing the local militia for revolution against the Qing dynasty. Training with open hands was a MULTI-PURPOSE training method that allows immediate skill transferral to butterfly swords in wing chun's case or spears in Xingyi Quan. Same applies for Karate and other similar martial arts. The movements WITHIN the forms are rooted in this old world mentality, ready for war. Another premise that is different to your understanding is that Chinese kung fu and most Asian martial arts are NOT barbaric blood sports or for gaining personal glory. The fist-in-hand gong sau 拱手 bowing gesture signifies peace, respect, and salutations. The stereotypical qi gong putting hands high and low while breathing is ritual prayer or worship blessing and honouring Heaven above and Earth below. Nobody who does kung fu who understands what kung fu really is for should never be aiming to inflict injury on others to hurt or maim people for life unless there is truly no other option. The lack of multi-opponent training is a really good point but also this scenario is a LOW probability in a modern civilised society that uses wisdom, communication, application of the law, to solve problems. Also, even if multiple attackers was a regular occurrence the Chinese philosophy of war is always to have the upper hand and to never ever be in a position of vulnerability. All wars are fought by "surrounding" the opponent, and never being surrounded. You will find this in Art of War, Musashi, and playing strategy games such as 'Go'. Again, it begs the question WHY does someone feel the need to train in multi-opponent scenarios if not for ego, vain glory, bravado, etc, and if these truly are regular occurrences then the bigger question is why is the society lawless and dysfunctional, why is that person still living there, and what are the police and army doing about it? Which are governance and military issues NOT civil issues to be solved with kung fu, let alone empty hand kung fu. Peace

If you can read, read the reply I wrote to your fellow keyboard fighter, "maclove52"

Please elaborate. Highly recommend you touch hands with him or his students at some point. It will help answer a lot of doubts.

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You'd better learn to think and ask questions before you mouth off while you're sitting on your butt. I was there before, during and after his following true story: That man came to San Francisco and put out the word that only instructors, instructors in any style, could come and join his class ... and even then, by invitation only. Over 100 joined, and within a month, there were fewer than ten left. He kicked ALL their asses. It was just brutal. They all hobbled out all busted up. He trained six hours a day, six days a week, for years before he came to the U.S. Have you done either one of those things?

His teacher was Leung Sheung one of Yip Man's top students. Who is your teacher and where have you trained that you know more than Ken?

You would have to understand Ken's idea and purpose behind the wooden dummy form to know what's going on. As I can tell, we don't train on the dummy as a sparring partner or conditioning tool but more of a way to focus on position and placement, in addition to the softness that you see in the movements. When I see other lineages do their thing, I think it's wrong, too. But if you realize why they train the way they do, it makes sense.

Leung Sheung lineage, especially under Ken and Ben, is the hardest training group of Wing Chun people on the planet. Just because the forms look different to you (preserving the original form of Wing Chun Yip Man taught when first coming to Hong Kong, with a focus on softness and sensitivity) doesn't mean they're wrong. The 3rd section there in particular is no longer preserved in any other lineage of Yip Man Wing Chun, but teaches valuable footwork. Idk how you can claim to know more than someone who's dedicated over 60 years of their life to this art.

Foolish comment.

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@@少川靖男 felt it you should too.

He would probably think it's funny for you to say "perfect" regarding his structure, and then maybe comment on how 梁相 would be criticizing him still if he were alive.

@@超虎生活 lol yes he would probably say exactly that. He is a perfectionist

​@@超虎生活oh 100%