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This Channel is about the SymbOS Z80 multitasking operating system (SYmbiosis Multitasking Based Operating System), which provides preemptive multitasking, 1024 Kb dynamic memory, 2 terabyte filesystem, a 100% flexible windows GUI and is sound and network capable.
It's available for the Amstrad CPC, MSX, Amstrad PCW, Enterprise 64/128, Amstrad NC and SymbOS Virtual Machine.
It's available for the Amstrad CPC, MSX, Amstrad PCW, Enterprise 64/128, Amstrad NC and SymbOS Virtual Machine.
[don't watch this!] SoundDaemon plays music on an Amstrad NC200
**This is purely experimental and for fun. You're better off not listening and BSC will probably get angry if someone messes up his great song like this.**
There is now an Amstrad NC100/200 driver for the SymbOS SoundDaemon as well. It is using the NCs' two primitive sound channels for playing the first 2 PSG channels. No idea, if it sounds different/better/worse on a real machine, this one is captured from an emulator.
The PSG-part of the SoundDaemon is based on the Arkos Tracker AKG player by Targhan/Arkos.
There is now an Amstrad NC100/200 driver for the SymbOS SoundDaemon as well. It is using the NCs' two primitive sound channels for playing the first 2 PSG channels. No idea, if it sounds different/better/worse on a real machine, this one is captured from an emulator.
The PSG-part of the SoundDaemon is based on the Arkos Tracker AKG player by Targhan/Arkos.
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SymbOSVM - first real run during Fujiama 2024
มุมมอง 6203 หลายเดือนก่อน
During the Fujiama Atari8bit meeting in Saxony (Lengenfeld) Insane/Rabenauge was working very hard on finishing SymbOS VM, a new virtual platform for SymbOS, while I was finishing the screen driver for this crazy "platform". This includes breaking the 256pixel barrier for the Y-resolution, which is a big step forward as well, as now SymbOS supports all resolutions which you can imagine. SymbOSV...
SymCalc vs. Multiplan - speed comparison
มุมมอง 2175 หลายเดือนก่อน
This is a speed comparison between SymCalc on a 4MHz 8bit Amstrad CPC and Multiplan running on the same machine as well as on a 8bit Spectrum and an 16bit IBM XT compatible. The comparison exactly the same recalculation (previous cell ^ 1.5), but is maybe not 100% correct. In SymCalc a total of 109 cells are recalculated (11*10-1), while in Multiplan it seem to be up to 132 (19*7-1), but some s...
SymCalc first preview - "Excel"-like spreadsheet application for SymbOS
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A first preview of SymCalc, the new spreadsheet application for SymbOS. This preview shows the first working formula calculations. Beside this you can also see cell formatting regarding text alignment, font style/colour and comma/unit etc. stuff. Credits: Music by Conspiracy/Offscreen Colonies/Revision 2015 (one of the best 64K demo ever)
Solitaire for SymbOS by Prevtenet
มุมมอง 3049 หลายเดือนก่อน
A little video showing me playing the new Solitaire card deck game by Prevtenet/Daniel Gaskell. This very famous game now is finally available for SymbOS as well, I have been waiting for it since 20 years! :) It was developed using the Quigs IDE made by Trebmint. Download: www.symbos.org/appinfo.htm?00056 SymbOS: www.symbos.org Quigs IDE: www.symbos.org/quigs.htm
SymbOS on the ZX Spectrum Next
มุมมอง 9K9 หลายเดือนก่อน
This video shows SymbOS NXT in action, the new port for the ZX Spectrum Next. As you can see, this is one of the most powerful SymbOS platforms to date and is simply perfect for running a Z80 multitasking operating system with a fully graphical user interface. You can see SymbOS running on a 28MHz Z80 with a screen resolution of 640 x 256 pixels and 16 colors, resulting in 80KB of VRAM, all of ...
Our SymbOS booth at MSX GOTO40
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Probably one of the coolest 8bit retro event of the last years. The 40th birthday of the (IMHO :P ) best 8bit machine ever, the MSX! Celebrated in Amsterdam at "MSX GOTO40" ( www.msxgoto40.com ), a really great and perfectly organized event with starguest from Japan including the MSX creator Nishi and the two famouse Konami musicians. It was an honour for us to have our SymbOS booth at this his...
Lymings/Sound Daemon/SymbOS on a normal CPC with an OPL4 sound device
มุมมอง 267ปีที่แล้ว
Another variant. I didn't count, but this is now probably the third or fourth variant of how Lymings runs on a SymbOS system. This time with original CPC graphics but using the OPL4 sound device (MSX "Moon Sound" etc.). It's also another example that now SymbOS apps are not only platform and graphic hardware independant but also sound device independant.
Lymings + Sound Daemon/SymbOS on original Amstrad CPC music/video hardware
มุมมอง 349ปีที่แล้ว
Lymings now without steroids, just with original CPC video (CRTC) and music (PSG) hardware running in SymbOS, using the new Sound Daemon. Yes, currently it sounds like an Amsoft game from 1984, but there is some room for improvements regarding the effects and mixture. Credits: - Lemmings music rearranged for CPC SoundTrakker by BSC - PSG player based on the Arkos Tracker 2 player by Targhan
Lymings for SymbOS first time with music, using the Sound Daemon
มุมมอง 463ปีที่แล้ว
The Lemmings mobile clone for SymbOS called "Lymings" is using the new Sound Daemon SymbOS service task for the first time to play music and sound effects. Here you see it running on an MSX with OPL4 sound card. PSG and CPC videos are coming soon.
PacMan using the SymbOS Sound Daemon with OPL4 support
มุมมอง 443ปีที่แล้ว
PacMan for SymbOS using the Sound Daemon for playing music and sound effects with the OPL4 music hardware. Both PSG and OPL4 ("Moonsound") are supported and can be used by applications, as these are available on most SymbOS platforms.
SymbOS Printer Daemon test (with WordPad)
มุมมอง 232ปีที่แล้ว
Printing stuff with Wordpad and the new Printer Daemon by EdoZ (using Quigs by Trebmint) in SymbOS with an NLQ401. It's currently W.I.P. but we already have some results :)
SymAmp 4.1 release - on the MSX
มุมมอง 2902 ปีที่แล้ว
The last SymAmp video for this quarter :D SymAmp on the MSX with the MoonSound/OPL4 sound card, playing SA2 files. You can download it here: www.symbos.org/appinfo.htm?00005 symbos.org/download/media/sa2.zip
SymAmp with advanced SA2 Support for OPL2
มุมมอง 1952 ปีที่แล้ว
Sorry for bothering you with more SymAmp videos. But this will be probably the last one for now, as SA2 module support (Surprise! Adlib Tracker 2) ist mostly finished now. At least one of my favourite tunes "My Dear Rob" seems to run now - probably not perfect, but ok already.
SymAmp playing OPL3 Songs via the Willy card
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The new SA2 plugin for SymAmp enables it to play Surprise! Adlib Tracker 2 modules. It is using the "Willy" card by PulkoMandy with attached "OPL3LPT" sound device for playing the OPL2-based songs. Using the OPL4-based MSX MoonSound card is working as well. Willy card: pulkomandy.github.io/shinra.github.io/willy.html OPL3LPT: www.serdashop.com/OPL3LPT
Playing Amiga MOD files in SymbOS on an Amstrad CPC with SymAmp
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Playing Amiga MOD files in SymbOS on an Amstrad CPC with SymAmp
Sokoban for SymbOS - VERY advanced puzzle
มุมมอง 2703 ปีที่แล้ว
Sokoban for SymbOS - VERY advanced puzzle
Doom for SymbOS - first test on real 4MHz 8bit hardware
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Doom for SymbOS - first test on real 4MHz 8bit hardware
SymAmp with MSX Darky Support (2xAY/6 PSG channels)
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SymAmp with MSX Darky Support (2xAY/6 PSG channels)
AMSDAP test on the Amstrad CPC with MSX hardware
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AMSDAP test on the Amstrad CPC with MSX hardware
Amstrad CPC with V9990 CPC Powergraph and correct picture
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Amstrad CPC with V9990 CPC Powergraph and correct picture
SymbOS on an Amstrad CPC with V9990 graphic card
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SymbOS on an Amstrad CPC with V9990 graphic card
Playing MP3 music on an Amstrad CPC in SymbOS!
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Playing MP3 music on an Amstrad CPC in SymbOS!
AMSDAP - Amstrad MSx aDAPter - first test with the SE-ONE on a CPC
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AMSDAP - Amstrad MSx aDAPter - first test with the SE-ONE on a CPC
SymbOS PCW playing videos with the uIDE interface
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SymbOS PCW playing videos with the uIDE interface
SymbOS MSX with full Rookie Drive USB mouse support
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SymbOS MSX with full Rookie Drive USB mouse support
SymAmp playing music on the Enterprise 128 in SymbOS
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SymAmp playing music on the Enterprise 128 in SymbOS
Sounds cool. :)
Heilige Scheiße! 🤯
That's amazing.
Which system/computer was used in this video?
th-cam.com/video/yZEi4t_JUpg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KVR63T2mnwRGmORb
If it can handle video playback why not youtube?
Has been released now for the public! Infos and Downloads here: www.symbos.de/symbosvm.htm
Impressive....l but damn ugly. :(
Даёшь SymbOS на ZX Evolution!
I can't wait to try out the VM for myself please make a video upon its release
This is awsome! I cant wait to try it out. Whats the max colour depth available? What sort of audio capability does it have?
The VM itself supports 4 and 8bit colour depth (16 and 256 colours). SymbOS itself is currently using the 16 colour mode, but there is already the idea to support 256 colours as well. For this I have to increase memory support to 16MB at least for bitmaps, otherwise this wouldn't make much sense. Regarding audio capabilities: Insane is planning to add dual AY-3-8910, OPL3 (FM) and OPL4 (Wavetable) support (interfaces already defined). So nearly everything you need :)
We definitely need a modern diy computer for SymbOS usage)
Great work! Is there any chance you could make a FreeBSD build as well, or at least open source the container so it can be compiled on BSD? Also what is InsaneOS? I googled it but I can't find any information.
hmm. second try to post a comment. insaneOS is my own, still unreleased, bare metal Operating System developed for Pi0-Pi3. Will be released later this year
The VM is GPL2 and only needs a Posix-like system and SDL2. It's already on my github - but without the Z80 Kernel the VM is pretty useless. Kernel will be released soon though!
@@INSANE-rab great news! Please can I have a link to the Github repo so I can star it?
@@whetphish github.com/insane-rabenauge/symbosvm this is the Github repo link. I am currently finishing a first release version of SymbOS for SymbOSVM (currently not included in the repo), will be published during this week!
Crikey.. excellent
So better vertical resolution on gfx9000 as well now?
Indeed, that's a good idea! Will it flicker on a TFT? (interlaced) At least 768x480x16 should look nice and would be possible. I am currently not sure if there is enough RAM for 1024x424, as the system font is cached in a hidden part of the VRAM for faster textoutput.
Z80 fluxkompensator aktiviert!
I need console ports... Genesis.. SNES.. 🤤
I totally want to look into both printing and PDF support in SymbOS. Both would be fantastic.
Fantastic. I was just talking to a professor last week, about you, SymbOS and SymbOS application development in Z80 assembly language. Is there still a graphical IDE / development environment available somewhere? I want to go ahead and build a simple graphical software launcher that I can use with my M4 Wi-Fi card, to reboot the system after editing the autoexec.bas file. Cheers.
Hi TechTyze, the QuigsIDE for developing SymbOS apps in an easy way is available for Windows and can be downloaded here: www.symbos.org/quigs.htm For questions you can join our Discord group at: discord.gg/4N2nZRtB
Amazing!
Oh my! What's next?! SymWrite? SymImpress? 😁
This is amazing work - and the choice of music is excellent as well! (It's composed by Gargaj and it's one of my favourite PC demo tunes.)
Thanks Nicholas, yes, the music is awesome - especially for a 64K demo
Slick! Very impressive.
Nachstes Fujiama muss ich mir mahl das SymOS von naher anschauen. Seit eine Woche neben alle meine Atari Computer , stolze besitzer von ein Amstrad CPC 464
Looking forward to see you again in july!
Excellent! As soon as you port this to the Agon Light platform, I'll be checking it out.
Great work
Which dancing song is that one?
No version for regular 4:3 aspect ratio?
Wow! Finally! It's possible to Spectrum classic?
It would be possible if there would be a memory expansion for the classic Spectrum which could handle 4x16kb mapping (the next even has 8x8kb mapping)
But i have No Idea of this would be possible at all...
The OS of my dreams.
But does it have an internet browser???????
Vdp9990? Ulax? Ula+ vdac2 interlaced video ram contention? Accelerator quad core pie zero?
This is great! Now I'm dreaming about this running on an ez80 at 50mhz and 16mb of ram...
saw SymbOS running on an Amstrad CPC this time last year at Revision, thought it was a streaming demo, not a full fledged GUI operating system, freakin amazing work put into this <3
Will you be there again in 2 days? :)
@@Prodatron Sadly not this year, hope to make it to a smaller party later in the year. :D
wow i've been hoping for this for a long time.. : ) would be nice to see more integration in the future, like running next-native programs from the GUI, using all 4MB of memory, maybe even accessing the wifi
Thanks a lot! :) Running Next or normal Spectrum TAP apps from the GUI should be possible. The Next "only" supports up to 2MB (because of the 8K page mapping), so SymbOS is already using a large part of this (including DIVMMC and the 80K video ram), and unfortunately in the current state we have an 1MB limit (20bit addresses) on SymbOS side. But I am sure that Wifi will be supported in the future, just a new driver for the existing Network Daemon is necessary.
@@Prodatron wow that's awesome news < 3 looking forward to continued development. this reminds me, is there a paypal i can send some donations to?
It would be fantastic to get this working on Feersum MicroBeast + VideoBeast - my z80 kit computer. The video side supports high resolutions, 9 bit colour and multiple layers, and the (real) Z80 runs 8Mhz. Total system memory is 512K (RAM), 512K (Flash ROM), 1Mb (Video)..
Не Андроид система, и не Windows конечно, но забавно, поиграться можно😊
Больше конечно похоже на демо, чем на полноценную операционную систему.
Ничего себе, когда то давно я пытался создать графическую оболочку под спектрум, жалко я потерял дискету с ней.
There was "Doors" for the Spectrum, it looks very impressive: doors.yarek.pl/home.shtml?lang=en
@@Prodatron Thanks for the link. But I wrote about my personal attempt to create this) I was 15 years old and made Windows in BASIC :) And now I watch everything on TH-cam.
PCW new generation workstation with SYMBOS... We are waiting Symbos 4.0 im sure we Will shock with new properties. Im very excited for new version
Great Game! SYMBOS is Best OS FOR All OF the 8 bits but this OS wins all OF the Systems. We love SYMBOS. THIS is dream OS. The best even among 16 bits. V9990 running SYMBOS, a CPC with RSF3, beats Amiga 500 and Amiga 600 in every case. It even surpasses any system with additional hardware and new SYMBOS. We are waiting for SYMBOS 4.0.
Windows для 8 bit машин... Я видел Вашу SymbOS для Аmstrad CPC. Эта версия для Nекст'а ещё круче. Впечатляет !!! Microsoft уже знают что у них появились конкуренты. 😜
дык там же ПЛИСина стоит, окна скорее всего аппаратные :)
This is an incredible achievement.
now i have an alternative to windows
OK, so I gave it a try on my recently received KS2, and I have to make a list of what's to fix, but first of all, I have to congratulate you, because it's really impressive. I didn't even know the high resolution mode would allow to display 16 colors at the same time. In fact, it wasn't really clear if 320x256 or 640x256 could even be available as full bitmap modes without cheating with TileMode for the external 32 pixels around the standard 256x192 area (double the horizontal numbers in hires mode), but yes, that's indeed a full 80K bytes screen memory, so if the Next would allow this (or 320x200 in 256 colors) in full bitmap mode, it'll become even more exciting to program. Anyway, the first impressions are overwhelming : The mouse is responding very accurately to every move, even fast ones (which never works with classical interrupt driven drivers apart from using the 28 MHz overclocking, but I guess it's the case already because of the multasking anyway :p) Mouse clicks are also precise and responsive, absolutely flawless. Windows and apps open quickly and smoothly as well (also thanks to the 28 MHz clock, probably). Of course the pictures are shrunk horizontally because the doubled resolution means each pixel width is halved, but it's unavoidable unless everything that's displayed in a window gets purposely doubled to respect the original ratio (since I'm using a 5:4 VGA screen to get perfectly square pixels in standard mode, it was expected anyway). However, apart from some apps that don't work and some other details I've met (I'll try to make a complete list when I have the time to use the Next again), the really critical problem is the keyboard : As expected from the keyboard map shown, only the indicated keys (including the 4 symbol shifted ones shown) and caps shift would work. Unfortunately no other key can work in combination with symbol shift, so it's nigh impossible to use the command line app, for instance, since the most important keys such as ":", "\" (or even "/") can be typed, so you have absolutely no way to change drives nor folders ! Long files names also can't to be displayed, which isn't really inconvenient since you've used short names with an apostrophe character, but here's the real problem, because this one (symbol shift + "7") can't be typed either, so whichever way you're looking at the problem, you just can type neither a path nor even a filename ! So in my opinion, the most urgent issue to fix would be to get back the full characters set that can be typed-in by decoding all the symbol shifted keys from the keyboard (which shouldn't be overly complicated, since the . , ; " keys are working already - the problem being they're the only ones !) Well, maybe you've been using the FPGA's internal way to decode the special keys rather than relying on the classical way, explaining why they're working (since the Next uses two additional columns instead of the original ZX Spectrum+ and 128K multi-layered membrane), but you really have to decode symbol shifted keys the same way you decode caps shifted keys in order to get the full characters set. The rest is basically about a few tweaks and isn't as important as the keyboard issue. Anyway, it's really a masterpiece overall. Thanks for bringing this to the Next !
Hi @Z80Man, thanks a lot for your long report! You are right regarding the keyboard, the first version used an own definition which didn't make much sense. The reason for this was, that I wanted to keep all ALT+A-Z and CTRL+A-Z combinations which are available on "normal" keyboards, but this has to be solved in a different way now. Please try the current version at: www.symbos.org/download.htm#marke3 Now all keys should behave like on an original Spectrum (I hope so?). There is no long filename support, and this won't change probably as it would cost too much resources.
@@Prodatron Yes, thank you, I'll download it and test it asap. It was obvious the keyboard management came from another environment... It had of course to be further adaptated to the target hardware. About the long file names it's only a problem for new files and folders creation, since there's ashort names translation (as long as you can actually type them, hence the keyboard problem... LOL) So I guess the OS is a completely specific one, not relying on any native NextZXOS nor esxDOS ? Or is it some variant of a known one legacy on like TR-DOS ? The graphic OS written by Alone Coder for the ATM Turbo or ZX Evolution is of course TR-DOS based, as Russian software actually. I've heard there's an esxDOS version that can now cope with long filenames, but in fact I don't know anything about the base OS you're using. I didn't even use it long enough to check if every folder on the Next's SD cards (or RAMdisk) could be freely accessed... I'll have to spend more time using it. :)
what is the screen resolution ?
It is 640 x 256, 16 colours (see description)
@@Prodatron it looks amazing!
Hax
The game works on all platforms?
Of course, like all other normal SymbOS apps. As you know it's the MSX which made this possible :P
That tune sounds very Orbital-like.
Please consider porting to the Agon platform. We need more powerful and readily available Z80 platforms for you to impress us with. I'm a fan of yours, but I have been unable to acquire one of the exceptionally few platforms that your product supports. I believe the readily available and performant Agon platform would be a perfect match for you and SymbOS.