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This must be shortly before Max filmed The Black Hole.

Im very critical of beethoven as well, but some of these remarks from Bernstein lmao! This guy couldnt hold beethovens jock strap and hes pounding on the piano likes hes the king of music. It reminds me of some unknown dude who heard mozarts "dissonance" quartet and thought mozart got all his notes messed up because he couldnt write and should stick to just being a piano player. I fell out of my chair. Lmao! Im critical of Beethoven, but i give the guy props for having one of the biggest hearts and wouldnt quit until he was the greatest or made people think he was. He accomplished the ladder

He just rehashes the same stuff everyone says about beethoven. What he doesnt get though, is 7th symphony melody is a simplified borrow from a theme mozart used in the 2nd movement of his 22nd piano concerto. Beethoven was sneaky and always had mozart on his mind

I think Beethoven was always trying to capture human feeling in music. This he understood better than anyone. It’s why the 7th 2nd movement, or the moonlight sonata, or 9 4th movement are so powerful. They are as close to tangible expression of what it means to be a person as someone has come. He’s a real “Dasein” able to communicate being.

Bernstein saying LvB isn't a great melodist, my god, the first movement has a beautiful melody, and what about the Ode to Joy? The second movement of the fifth begins with a beautiful melody. There are plenty of examples. The sixth symphony has several beautiful melodies.

"Any child could write." Poor bernstein. Great maestro, poor theorist, awful composer.

Thank you !

Epitome of cluelessness… reminds me of those senior history class school teachers who talk about historic wars with such confidence, zeal & trivial details … you’d almost believe that they were right there, at the battlefield, fighting next to Alexander, depicting how he mounted the horse, coughed blood… and then add some idiosyncratic remarks: Alex felt great fear… but no one talks about it openly. Young inspired students listen with dropped jaws and go home, impressed, excited: -Mommy, daddy, did you know Alexander was a coward? -who told you so? -the teacher

Sounds like he's talking about Bach and not Beethoven. Beethoven was way more out of the box than the Bach. Bach wrote music that feels like a mathematical equation that describes some fundamental physics of some sort.

Rach had that phone line open.

Propably the best teacher ever. Sorry Doctor Einstein.

I think Bach also had what Gould names “tonal vision”, and then Beethoven wrote great fugues in his late works. As per single notes melodies there Bach from Violin solo sonata no 3 , Adagio, Chopin Prelude in E minor… and I think those great melodies.

This is so awesome!

I am sorry Mr Bernstein but the 3rd movement of the 9th symphony has a marvelous melody as does the first movement of the 5th piano concerto; to point a few examples.

I am only a layman with a passion for music but I have the impression that Bernstein misunderstands the melody here. First, it is not always the highest tone in the line that expresses the melody. Second, it is a very slow melody which does not make it less of a melody. This melody is not complicated but subtle, which does not make it less of a melody, either. The harmony is very simple but that does not make the melody less poignant, on the contrary. He also forgets to mention that those first chords are just the introduction to a long variation of the first motive. Motives in variations always appear rather elementary at the beginning, that' s what makes variations possible and interesting. What he refers to as "form" seems to be just the feeling for the melody and even more, the rhythm, and the ability to express the emotional sense behind, the melancholic solitary song we hear that develops from deep sadness to the conviction to take action and the serenity of knowing that even failure can have a higher justification. The precision and lockstep expresses determination, certainty, but also inevitability. The law of freedom is also the highest of obligations. This is Immanuel Kant's philosophy and Schiller's poetry put into music. What Bernstein says about the genius of Beehoven and his link to eternity is true, though. INEVITABILITY is a good word for it, I would rather call it coherence and consistency with the essence of beauty.

Yeah Beethoven sucks

This is wonderful. Can you tell me when this was made and what program it was for? Thank you for sharing!

Maybe much of his music DID come from some higher plane, but Beethoven's struggle was to learn to step aside and receive it. That was the agony, a struggle between his ego and this higher source.

Beethoven's 7th Symphony, 2nd movement is my absolute favorite of his works!

Obviously Mozart and Bach were more naturally gifted… no boundaries, no weaknesses

WOW Just WOW ! many years ago I had a dream in which someone was speaking to me about Beethoven . I had been listening to Beethovens 7 th for about a week prior to the dream . In the dream I was told that Beethoven s music "Is The Emotions " you see , not to be confused with the Expression of the emotions . In my dream this person says , "No ! His music is the emotions ! period . " There is a difference . " So it seems he indeed has a direct line to All That Is or God . But we all do . We can always find it , at anytime . The thing is , I believe he was trying to FIT IN , Trying too hard to be like others in his field . Thats where he was struggling . He did not understand his own gift of this language , the natural gift of the ability to tap into the musical alphabet of emotions . It was new territory , and he was discovering something new . But I think he knew finally , and accepted it finally with the 9th symphony . It is the celebration of that discovery . IMO anyway .

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I always thought Beethoven's works felt more like a discovery than an invention.

"It all checks." That's Beethoven in a nutshell.

Fantastic thank you for posting

2023 bela interpretação

muy agradecido....

The melody is so haunting and beautiful. It crawls under my skin and nudges my brain.

like gospel

Leonard was the only music teacher that never shamed me. I was told to move my lips and not make a sound during choir practice, I was passed over for trumpet chair and gave up cuz of the teacher liking a girl better, despite the vote of the band...I had no music education. But I watched Leonard Bernstein, and he taught me to love Beethoven.

Everything is everything tonight because I watched 'The King's Speech' where the B7 was brilliantly deployed against Colin Firth's speech and thenI watched 'Trial at Nuremberg', observing Max Schell in his prime. Now, TH-cam shows me the full circle.

Perfection! Absolutely Beautiful!

una obra maestra

Extraordinari.Quin goig! Un prodigi de la guitarra.Gràcies per la teva virtut.

Son muy hermosos

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever under-estimate the suffering that Beethoven endured to give us music that still sells out symphony halls to this day.

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Bernstein obviamente exagera o seu criticismo acerca da harmonia, da melodia, da instrumentação… para dizer que, apesar disso, Beethoven tinha uma linha direta com Deus. Mas na verdade o objetivo de Beethoven era ser, não um herói nem um santo, mas um verdadeiro homem. É esse desejo que ele transpôs para a sua música. E foi o êxito trabalhoso e persistente em fazê-lo que torna a sua obra tão humana - a razão de ser do amor e entendimento que obtém em todo o planeta.

Beethoven wrote grosse fugue. A good fugue.

2:38, Bernstein describes Beethoven's struggles as a composer.

Enorme Maestro

Me encantó

Expectacular son preciosos

a guitar pianist

Omg yo tengo uno que es mixed con Huskey y chow chow se párese al los grandes en color pero tiene los oídos de huskies y la nariz también chulos esos pups

Meu herói !

What a beautiful song! Check out the reverb on the harmonics, so cool!

Can't write a fugue? WHAT THE FUCK????!!!! Apparently the great blowhard Bernstein never heard of the gross fugue, and also missed the fugal sections in the symphonies. "Cattle, asses!" --Beethoven, in reference to the fact that the audience couldn't understand the gross fugue

John Williams is absolutely spot on when he says that this piece was inspired by the Mesquita (Great Mosque) in Cordoba, a seamless combination of Mosque and Cathedral (one of the world's largest by floor area). The composer sets the scene by way of a Christian chant (or hymn), then introduces Moorish elements: passages incorporating ancient harmonic modes particularly in the melodic bass voice. The piece is a real musical masterpiece: each morning, after four Chopin Etudes, I play through Cordoba (and its companions Granada, Sevilla and Cadiz) as warming-up exercises before getting down to the day's work at the organ. (As a passing note, I find this piece also supremely effective on the organ, using a second manual to project quieter passages and voices in echo mode. For any organist reading this - it's worth trying out!) Although these pieces were written originally for piano, they evoke the spirit of the guitar in a way that makes pianists more than grateful to share them with our guitarist colleagues, not least when they are rendered with such consummate perfection as John Williams brings to them.

It is really amazing how well this piece works on the guitar. Williams plays this piece with great feelings and sense of style.

Albeniz is a genius / John williams got it right and expressed him as genius