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It's one thing to aggrandize a controversial hack like Jaru but forcing me to listen to his annoying roundabout delivery in an extended clip has me outta here.

What I'd like to note, is that Asriel is The Absolute God of Hyperdeath, and absolute means quite literally: pure, complete, perfect, unlimited, endless... which clicks even better with the idea of Asriel never letting things come to an end.

If Chara is 9 and Sans is -9, and Gaster is 666, then the G-man is literally the most evil _chara_ -cter in any Toby Fox game.

in my eyes this isn't just flowey talking, its a bit of asriel shining through, though its still mostly flowey

I'll just be filing this of in my list of information on characters for undertale.

Salutations

doesn't make sense to me how clover is a fascinating character if undertale yellow is only a fan game, and we don't even know his real story in the ACTUAL undertale

"You either die serving the chara defense squad or live long enough to debunk narrachara" lmao 🤣 Anyways, jokes aside. Great video! The player/Chara/Frisk trifecta has always been by far the most convoluted and up to interpretation aspect of Undertale and I really like your take on the matter! I think narrachara has its merits but it really sucks when it's taken as canon within the fandom even when it comes to theorycrafting and not a "I'm basing my theory within other theory" I love Chara a whole lot and even have my own theories about them, I always saw them as being a representation of the player but never as a "True protagonist", it's really hard to tell which parts of the protagonist are frisk and which ones are chara, so I feel kinda bad downplaying frisk's presence within their own story. Honestly it's one of the only things that bother me in undertale in general, you really have to dig through to discern who's who and while I know that's intentional, it's a bit frustrating to have 3 whole entities at play here Anyways, great video, you just earned a new subscriber! I had a lot of fun watching this too

Chara enthusiasts eating good tonight 🗣️📢💯💯💯 We already knew Chara's weird obsession and relation to maximization as they're (among other things) the representation typical JRPG grinding standards by the end of a genocide, and that they're generally concerned with getting the most out of something (see the "efficient" undertale clock app dialogue, chara used to fill glasses to the brim with water and asriel would pick that habit from them) 9 was already clearly charas motif (asriel's too, but to a lesser extent. He only ever used 9s as flowey as well which is of note since his persona as flowey is the result of trauma after being reborn with the power of determination but also a somewhat twisted attempt to imitate traits he saw in Chara (someone we know he held in high regard) things like the scary faces and even the default smiley face being chara's trademark originally. So yeah I'm pretty sure he also borrowed the 9 motif from them too) 2 out of the 3 times the game kills somebody without your input during a no mercy route, a bunch of nines show up, that's Chara baby! That's "Now you have reached. The absolute" chara we're talking about. I'm just glad we finally have some actual confirmation that 9 is their number from the man himself because I always felt crazy explaining why 9 was Chara's signature number and being told I was reading way too much into things It feels so good to be right, it only took 9 years but hey! It's always nice to get more chara lore, they're such a mysterious character, sometimes it's like we don't know anything about the first fallen human

Your choices don't matter ahh--

It is interesting to note as well that chara is not only associated with the number 9, but with infinite 9s, which is what they use to kill the game in genocide... 9999999... Infinite 9s. And what does sans do? 1 damage. If you know anything about infinitely big numbers (more specifically the 10-adics, iirc), you'd know that ...99999 + 1 = 0. This is because the 9+1 turns into 10, the result being 0 and carrying the 1 to the next digit, which would propagate infinitely to the left, but never reaching the end as there are infinite 9s. This means, they actively nullify each other. ...9999 + 1 = 0.

If you say Undyne's name backwards you can't say it without a nine.

Nice video!! I do wonder something though, what about when Flowey dies in near end of the vengance route? Could it be like a he unexpected it? I wonder. Then again, before Clover killed him, he did say that "I know what happens after this" which I wonder what that implies too? Maybe that also supports what you said about Flowey doing the weird route? Again, very interesting and great video!

According to this analysis, Chara and Undyne's relationship to the number 9 gets the Devil May Cry brain going. A part of DMC3's story is that Dante and Vergil both seek to gain power, but through different means and different, yet mirrored, reasons. Dante wants to gain power in order to save people from the forces of Hell, and does so by embracing both sides of himself. Or, in Undertale terms, but gaining Determination. Meanwhile, Vergil seemingly only seeks to selfishly better himself by seeking deeper into into his demonic heritage. Trying to prove himself to be the strongest being in existence simply for the sake of his own ego. At least, thats the surface level storytelling. But there is a single line if dialogue for him that Capcom goes out of their way to highlight in Marvel vs Capcom 3 that I think belays his true intentions. "Without might, you cannot protect anything." Combine this with his philosophical ramblinfs in the manga and V, and it becomes clear that Vergil is someone who is motivated by deep childhood scars. While Dante wishes to protect everyone out of a sense of duty, Vergil wishes to protect his love ones because he sees himself as a failure for being unable to in the past. Going back to Undertale, I wonder if this letter about Chara and the way stats are used for storytelling points to DMC3 as another potential inspiration for Toby. Think about it. Undyne clearly shares Dante's motivations 1:1, is similarly obsessed with looking cool and stylish outside of Genocide, and you could even equate her Undying form as a parallel to Dante's Devil Trigger. Her expending a resource she shouldn't normally have access to in order to become stronger for the sake of others. Chara, similarly to Vergil, has a storyline plagued by people who focus on the Genocide route and see a thirst for power simply to become powerful. Forgetting that this initial thirst came from wanting to bust open the underground. One way or another. So when Jaru asks "why show us this?" I think the answer might be the same as to why Capcom felt the need to highlight Vergil's quote I mentioned before. A way to remind us who the real Chara is. Not the all consuming demon they claim to be, but rather just a scared child willing to do truly heinous things for the sake of protecting and saving their family.

So we always knew toby is taking inspiration from touhou. you know, the dreemurs wearing a similar robe to sariel(who very obviously is also lending her name)/ran, asriels attacks resembling marisas, musical similarities (especially in the omega flowey fight)..... so now we know chara is based on cirno. this is canon now, definetly.

11:15 OH OH i think thats what might happen. fakeout-ending at 8, with the statement "our choices dont matter" being true until the end of chapter 8. And then we get a chapter 9 around chara, and all our choices suddenly DO matter in that chapter.

“So be it... Deep inside we're... kindred spirits... you... and I...”

I always had the idea that stats had to do with his mood more than his personality (mainly because talking to monsters or using certain items can change it) For example Toriel and Asgore both being "boss" monsters (implying that they are very strong) but Toriel doesn't really want to hurt you And Asgore, Asgore is known for being a tank, almost unstoppable according to all of the underground, But somehow, while we fight him (and he forces himself to fight because he wants to free his kingdom) his stats aren't really that big of a deal, Because it is clear that he is quite fed up with killing children xd When I saw Sans I thought "ah Sans, as lazy as ever, doesn't even have the desire to kill me" This new information changed my perspective a little but i dont know, Maybe Toby will decide tomorrow to say that all of Undertale is a dream of Jerry keep doing teories man this is amazing you should look the stats in deltarune

"Wouldn't be funny if Deltarune had 9 Chapters?" Game Files: Chapter "0" 1 2 3 $ 5 6 7 "8' "9" "10"

Deleting Comments only hides the truth UT bad lol

Wow. I’m never going to see the number 9 the same way again, huh?

So interesting thing. Could the fact the 999's are often red. Hint at the idea that chara's favorite color is red?

Sans and Chara aren't opposites, they're the same. Sans puts on a facade of not caring and not putting effort into anything, but if he didn't care he wouldn't judge you, and he wouldn't stand in your way on a Genocide route. Sans and Chara have the same motivation; to protect those that are closest to them. They are even similar in regards to when they take action, with both of them waiting until the last possible moment to do anything to you when you give them a reason to. If Chara likes 9 because it's the highest number, Sans's response is a simple "But what if I just keep adding 1?" Chara's opposite is actually Pacifist Frisk. Chara is obsessed with power because of a determination to protect those they care about. Chara is corrupted by good intentions. Pacifist Frisk doesn't care about power, and just wants to befriend everyone they meet. If Chara is an unstoppable force, Pacifist Frisk is an immovable object. Pacifist Frisk never backs down, never surrenders, and never hurts another person. If you were to ask Pacifist Frisk what their favorite number is, they'd probably respond that they can't pick a favorite because it might make the other numbers feel bad. Pacifist Frisk brings others together through mutual connection and keeps them safe through that sense of unity. The two could never get along. Pacifist Frisk's tendency to just dodge out of the way of attacks and hugging everything in sight would likely be completely nauseating to Chara, and they would insist that there are some threats out there you can't just befriend and that sometimes violence is the only way to deal with them. When that time comes, you want to be as unbeatable as possible. This is likely why Chara is so much more powerful than Genocide Frisk as well. Genocide Frisk isn't truly obsessed with power, they only care about getting the ending. Genocide Frisk's motivation is to see everything there is to see, a morbid scientific curiosity to know the outcome of every action. The same dark path Flowey went down before them. Chara is not the same. Chara's obsession with power isn't a desire to hurt others, but to protect everything they hold dear. Chara is the final obstacle, a wall of damage too high to endure with any amount of defense. If Sans is the judge, Chara is the executioner.

why do you hate the funny skeleton? bro literally is trying to stop the end of the word

i watched this video a week ago, but i just realized, megalovania is ost number 100. battle against a true hero and power of neo are 98 and 99. i don’t know if toby intentionally did that, and someone also probably already mentioned this, but still

There is one. That number... +1 that will be Kris' number.

5:18 I'm with you.

I consider the opposite of Chara is Frisk they actually have 0 attack and 0 defense

Imagine the world if deltarune fans got into quantum physic

The smallest number is 0

One other thing I haven't seen anyone in this comments section talk about, which is a shame cause it's so interesting, is how Chara and Asriel's respective life spans and views on mortality play into this. Chara and Asriel are so different on a biological level because, as is established, boss monsters don't die of age unless they have children. Asriel is functionally immortal, so it makes sense that he's scared of the end- It's not something that will happen to him if he makes the choice not to bear children. It's not something he has to accept unless he's under very specific circumstances. Chara, however, is human. Mortal. Mortal and most likely aware of the fact that death will eventually come for them. They see their mortality and thus take comfort in the end, in finality, in something that can be attained in a limited amount of time. Asriel dreads the end because it's unnatural to him, whereas Chara dreads the idea of not having enough time to reach it.

İt all fits so good i knew toby would make somthing liks this i realised all of this way before toby said these

In case anyone is worried I am now back home and completely fine and dandy Edit: Well about 2 weeks later and there is apparently now a Cat 5 hurricane on the way. I guess Shadow The Hedgehog hates Florida? Edit 2: so... Did you know there's something called a Fire Weather Watch?

My Asgore. IT'S OVER 9-

meanwhile, the dozenal system:

I like what you have presented here, but there is one thing I don't understand. My main question for you about this theory is: why is ANY of the narration in first person? If we accept that the narrator is not Chara, what exactly IS the first-person narration that Chara gives? Why does it exist? Does Chara provide some but not all of the narration, and if so, why?

I love how this both gives us more lore on chara and also feeds into the reasoning for flowey’s mindset. As flowey, Asriel reached his greatest fear. The end of everything with nothing left. He reached 99

Hey! Really cool coincidence, but I'm actually doing the same thing with Undertale as you did with this series! Although I do think I'm doing far more timelines than you though, from what I've gathered from this video lol. How many timelines was it exactly that you did, if you remember?

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jaru is not a good utdr creator

9 was my favorite number for the same reason, and this cemented it forever.

Perhaps Deltarune will have 9 chapters, but 2 of them will be secret unless you complete the "weird route," which seems to align perfectly with our inner CHARActer manipulating the game for evil purposes. Nope. Nope. Nope. I couldn't finish a merciless run in "Undertale" from the squick (but mostly boredom). Forcing poor Noelle to do bad things for bonus content is not on my to do list, if it's real.

Okay first it was Baldi and now it’s Undertale i’m scared bro WHY didn’t i notice these connections for years

Hear me out FF Greater than 99

...This is also interesting in context of Deltarune, because there? _Noelle_ is the one associated with "getting stronger" and being an "angel". 09:02 read somewhere very convincing post about Chara looking up to Undyne, because of the amount of times the flavor text calls her heroic or heroine, even in No Mercy!

That looks nive

Why do you hates Sans lol

I'm not surpised Chara's and Undyne's stats connect in this way considering Chara's narration in her fights. (Chara seems to be quite the fan of Undyne) However, I do want to thank you for putting emphsis on the "Nothing can hurt you anymore" and Nothing can hurt anyone anymore." As it makes certain lines of Chara's narration from Neutral and Pacfist hit that much harder.

Frisk has a number too 20 Not with attack But HP 20/20 at lv 1 At level 20 (20 again) they become a powerful and suitable enough thing with their determination to literally revive a demon and you can see a Chara's symbol that they have fully corrupted frisk or took a portion of control because level 20 is not supposed to give you 99 with the statistics math Also just off topic but Chara known for being the demon The appears when you call their name But when you type frisk it literally awakens hell or your life will be hell as the game put it

Just a question why do ya hate sans?