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storybabble
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2020
Helping filmmakers tell better stories with tips on gear, settings, editing, audio, and more.
BEST budget LED Light for New Content Creators Neewer CB300c or Amaran 300c?
#amaranlights #neewer #storybabble
➡️ amaran Affiliate Link & Dicount:
amaran website:
amaran.sjv.io/da2QZ2
amaran 300c
amaran.sjv.io/Xm1Dko
USE DISCOUNT CODE:
StoryBabble10
For Online Store Only
Save 10% Off your Entire Order
Minimum Purchase of $50
All USA customers
One use per customer
Can’t combine with other discounts
Active through December 31, 2025
➡️ Neewer Affiliate Link:
NEEWER Website:
neewer.com/?ref=storybabble
NEEWER CB300C Video Light:
neewer.com/products/neewer-cb300c-300w-cob-rgb-led-video-light-66606235?_pos=1&_sid=94c03ec53&_ss=r&ref=storybabble
NEEWER CB200C Video Light:
neewer.com/collections/continuous-lights/products/neewer-cb200c-200w-23000lux-m-cob-rgb-led-video-light-66604545?ref=storybabble
➡️ Neewer Affiliate Link:
Brother P-Touch Monochrome Label Maker PT-2040C with Additional Two Tapes:
amzn.to/42bwoGS
➡️ Video Description:
Mark compares the Neewer CB300c against the amaran 300c in this video to determine the best value. The results are messy and complicated, but Mark does pick a winner. Enjoy!
01:29 - Price
02:41 - Build Quality
03:24 - Cases
04:41 - Controls
05:42 - Power Supply
07:30 - Optional Modifiers
09:07 - Quality of Light
11:27 - The Winner
➡️ This video is NOT sponsored. However, affiliate links are provided.
“storybabble” is a production of Two Pod Guys LLC dba Random Acts Production Company. ©2024 all rights reserved.
Learn more about Mark Arnett at www.MarkArnett.com
➡️ amaran Affiliate Link & Dicount:
amaran website:
amaran.sjv.io/da2QZ2
amaran 300c
amaran.sjv.io/Xm1Dko
USE DISCOUNT CODE:
StoryBabble10
For Online Store Only
Save 10% Off your Entire Order
Minimum Purchase of $50
All USA customers
One use per customer
Can’t combine with other discounts
Active through December 31, 2025
➡️ Neewer Affiliate Link:
NEEWER Website:
neewer.com/?ref=storybabble
NEEWER CB300C Video Light:
neewer.com/products/neewer-cb300c-300w-cob-rgb-led-video-light-66606235?_pos=1&_sid=94c03ec53&_ss=r&ref=storybabble
NEEWER CB200C Video Light:
neewer.com/collections/continuous-lights/products/neewer-cb200c-200w-23000lux-m-cob-rgb-led-video-light-66604545?ref=storybabble
➡️ Neewer Affiliate Link:
Brother P-Touch Monochrome Label Maker PT-2040C with Additional Two Tapes:
amzn.to/42bwoGS
➡️ Video Description:
Mark compares the Neewer CB300c against the amaran 300c in this video to determine the best value. The results are messy and complicated, but Mark does pick a winner. Enjoy!
01:29 - Price
02:41 - Build Quality
03:24 - Cases
04:41 - Controls
05:42 - Power Supply
07:30 - Optional Modifiers
09:07 - Quality of Light
11:27 - The Winner
➡️ This video is NOT sponsored. However, affiliate links are provided.
“storybabble” is a production of Two Pod Guys LLC dba Random Acts Production Company. ©2024 all rights reserved.
Learn more about Mark Arnett at www.MarkArnett.com
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How to Actually Succeed on YouTube (Strategies for 2025)
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#Aputure #YoiuTube #storybabble ➡️ Link to my Documentary Film "Baby Boomerang (2008)" th-cam.com/video/CCslntduTYI/w-d-xo.html ➡️ Link to my NAMM DJI Mic Review th-cam.com/video/PQBlg00A3gQ/w-d-xo.html ➡️ Video Description: In this video, Mark Arnett tells a story of how he got his first sponsored videos with Aputure and gives you the secret to success in life. Enjoy! 00:00 - Intro 00:53 - My ...
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#amaran #videolight #storybabble ➡️ Affiliate Links: amaran Holiday Sale: amaran.sjv.io/55gjKb USE DISCOUNT CODE: StoryBabble10 For Online Store Only Save 10% Off your Entire Order Minimum Purchase of $50 All USA customers One use per customer Can't combine with other discounts Active from November 21 to December 31, 2024 amaran Go amaran.sjv.io/YRVxmR amaran ACE 25c/25x amaran.sjv.io/zN6V6G ➡️...
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Hi, what are your thoughts on the FS300C by Neewer?
I haven’t seen the FS300c. I’ll have to check it out at NAB this year and perhaps I can do a review of it. Thanks for the tip.
Hello I am shopping on USA Amazon and the promo code does not work. Is there an updated one?
I’m so sorry. Looks like my promo code. No longer works. I’ve sent an email to see if they will renew it. I will let you know. Thanks for letting me know.
Amaran link broken. Does not work. Looks like they no longer have a "store" but direct you to other dealers now.
Thanks. I’ll fix it. Should be fixed in about an hour.
I just fixed the links. Thank you so much for letting me know. Appreciate it.
so just watched the video , the neewer looks pretty promising , really promising tbh , but i will probably still go with the amaran ( it just looks good ) and the colors seemed much more consistant in terms of fall of and bright spots ( maybe just placebo )... Btw you should probably check out the Godox litemons la300r ?
I’m glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for the tip on the new light.
okay , i am intrigued to see the video, but the neewer looks hedious , the amaran looks SOOOO GOOOD specially in white
There is something to be said about aesthetics. Even when no one’s going to see your light, but you.
the Neewer FS300C looks much better
okay weird question how do they differ from something like the godox lc1000r or the zhiyun fiveray f100 ? i mean i get that they do come with a handle and meant to be held but is there any difference in use ? as they are way brighter than these types of tube lights
I haven’t played with any of those lights. I’ll try to take a look at them at NAB this year. Thanks for the tip.
we need a video for all kind of modifiers and what are the best ones to get
Funny, you should say that. I was thinking the same thing. I need to get going on a modifier video. Thanks for the push.
so looked into your newer videos , i have literally 0 lights as of now , just some regular house hold RGB Leds , Some warm white Leds and a RGB Tube , and i am thinking about spending around a 1000$ on my lights so i think i know what my set up should be like , i am thinking about buying the Amaran 300C that would be sufficient for all kind of scenarios , and 2 ace 25c for ambiance and rest of the money will go towards stands and modifiers
You can do so much with an amaran 300 C and two ace 25c’s. There’s nothing wrong with that combination in my mind.
@@storybabble yes , i cant wait to get them.
the exact thing i was looking for , THANK YOU MAN.
No, thank you. Glad to help.
I see Your video as very very helpful .ThankYou
So nice of you to say that. Thank you.
Great video. I just snagged a used 600d on eBay for $850 so im stoked 👍🏼
Nice score! You're going to love it. Congratulations.
I stumbled upon one of your videos yesterday while looking for info on a particular light. I love your content and you truly seem to be one of the most down to earth and genuine creators I've seen. Subscribed and looking forward to watching your journey.
Wow! Your comment really made my day. Thanks so much for your kind words. It keeps me going. Welcome.
great vid mate thanks
No problem 👍 thanks.
I have 2x 100d + Fersnel lens + Barn doors, a 300c, Spotlight SE and Smallrig RA55, RA85 softbox and like all stuffs. All works fine... easy to use... and the Sidus link is also good option for controlling the lights. Thank this review.
That sounds like a great kit. Thanks for sharing.
Love your advice! It is so true and so simple.
Thanks for watching Pam. Appreciate it.
Oh Man! Very fun and informative... thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks again.
Nicely explained. Thanks.
You are welcome! Thanks for your kind words.
Just bought a f21c can I use it as a key light?
It’s not going to be as soft as larger lights. However, it can’t be used for a key light. My advice is to get it as close you can to the subject without being in frame. I would also use it horizontally and not vertically. Best of luck.
@ thanks how would you use it mainly? My next purchase will be a 150c
Well done! “Don’t take rejection personally” really resonates with me. As you described there are so many reasons you might experience rejection that don’t have anything to do with you personally. I saw this a lot when we were auditioning people for animation projects. Often times we chose someone because they offered contrast to another actor that was already locked in. For live action, you might be the best actor in the room, but your 3 inches taller than the lead actor. Not your fault but still hurts. This is filled with good advice, Mark! You’ve become a wise old man.
I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for sharing your experience man.
I REALLY enjoyed this video. I would love to attend NAB; so I could have lunch or dinner with you. I appreciated learning a bit more behind the guy on the screen that gives me gear suggestions. Thank you and wish you continued success in 2025. BTW, I’ve been considering those same options to address my “chin.” 😂
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'll try to make it out to NAB and let hang out. Thanks for your support.
Great video thanks!
I appreciate that, thanks for watching!
Really great perspective and advice, Mark. Thanks!
I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
Neither of them can be controlled via API?
Not to my knowledge. But I am not tech savvy enough to control anything via API so I would know.
@ thanks, checked on that, Aputure promised API, but it’s not yet released and people don’t think it’s going to change anytime soon.
@@julian.cameraman Cool! Good to know. Thanks.
You are a creative genius! Thanks for your words of wisdom!
Thanks. Appreciate it Marolyn.
Really loved this one. Especially because we got to know you a little better. I appreciate it.
i need help i just got the rode podmice but i set it up and when i went to test it. it was glitchy and i need help
1:04 That family pic brightened my day up 😊Solid advice too.. ❤ Happy New Year!
You are so kind. Thank you.
Please mix these in with the gear reviews. This is gold. Thank you friend for your message.
I appreciate you saying that! Thanks.
This is really inspiring thank you for posting this video!
Thanks for watching. I appreciate that.
Thank you for sharing your invaluable knowledge! What a beautiful family you have! Wishing you and your loved ones a Happy New Year filled with love, joy, and health!
Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it. Happy New Year to you and yours as well!
I love your channel. Happy to see you continue to grow
Thanks, I appreciate it. It means a lot.
Damn, totally awesome. Keep on keeping on.
Appreciate the support. Thanks man.
Thank you for the advice.
Hope it was helpful! Thanks.
You're one amazing human being! The first time I watched one of your videos on equipment I thought to myself "This guy rocks!"
Wow. Thanks, I appreciate that so much.
Wow what an amazing family. 👏 Happy New Year sir.
Thanks man. You too.
Great advice. Happy New Year
Thanks! You too. Appreciate your reaching out.
Good Video but.....I find the Pod mic USB handles plosives much better that most microphones so it might be the way your saying your P's, if you put your hand Infront of your mouth and say peter piper, when you can do that feel no or verry little air hitting your hand the problem will be fixed or hugely improved. i practiced that and I no longer need a pop filter or wind screen with most microphones.
That’s awesome. I’ll have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip.
Sir you truly are a marvel to hear, the number of subs you have is disgusting for so much insight, knowledge and quality of conternt. YT just become based for showing me your video on my feed... for a little while until they trigger another ADPOCALYPSE.
Wow! Thanks! I appreciate you saying that. It means a lot.
How come you have an engineering prototype?
I don’t know. That’s what they sent me when I bought it. When they saw this video, they contacted me and exchanged it for a production unit. Apparently I wasn’t the only one. When I got the new unit, it would charge my iPhone. I made a correction video here: th-cam.com/video/QCR1Po6noo8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Mark. Thanks for the coupon code! However I tried using it about 11:00 pm est on 12/31 to purchase the 150c (first time) and it would not work for me. I tested it a day earlier (no purchase) and it worked then. Did they shut it down an hour early? Can you possibly extend it? Thanks for all your great videos.
Ouch! That sucks. I told me that it would last at the end of the year, but they never told me what that meant. I was hoping it would go through the end of the sale, but apparently it is down now. My contact is not returning to work until Monday. So sorry.
@@storybabble Thanks Mark…appreciate your efforts. Please post if by chance anything changes. Happy New Year.
Enjoyed your review!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
Got one of them lights cause of you and wow I’m in love…and I’m getting 4 more
Awesome. Glad you liked them.
Thanks for the super informative videos with all the real-life examples!
Wow. Thanks I’m so glad you enjoyed it.
Thx, for the review, exactly what I was looking for. My personal conclusion is 1x Aputore for outdoor and 2x Amaran for indoor fun :)
Good observation. Thanks for your comment.
This "broadcast-like quality" flour of sound is pre-amp built-in and calibrated by manufacturer. You have similar button on VOLT audio-interface (but analog). You might get this on the software side of things instead. And you might turn this off inside Shure, it's just has it "on" by default settings. If you record musical instrument or voice for music you definitely won't any kind of colouring on to of your original signal. And price difference defined by USB compatibility 'cause RODE literally had to put the whole audio-interface into the mic to make it possible. So you just buying mic and sound card. Check the price for SM7b :)
Good thoughts. I appreciate your insights. Thanks.
Super useful ❤thanks a lot
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful.
Mark, each time I stop by and watch one of your videos, I'm even more impressed by your rhetorical approach. I don't know how you manage such a friendly, conversational tone while also making your points with precision and excellent timing. Keep up the great work! Wishing you a very happy new year.
Thanks! That's so kind of you. Happy New Year! (by the way, the secret to my videos is to heavily edit all my mistakes out)
Had an F22c and the fan was a deal breaker. Wish you could turn it down/off, and in exchange I’d happily accept a far lower output limit. Like you I’m in a small studio. The fan was the only one in there, and I have a ton of gear. Even if I could remove it in post, it drove me nuts. Sent it back.
Yeah, the fan is definitely annoying. I hear you.
@ what I’m stunned by is that this amazing light has been out for a couple of years now, right? You’d think they’d have a newer model, a control box upgrade, an Aputure version of it, something. I so badly want one. But my studio is silent. Deeply sound deadened. Not a single thing with a fan. Several other Amaran lights with silent mode fans. This one fan drove me nuts. I tried putting it behind baffles, under a desk, even in a barely open box. Still heard it. Sad.
Yup. I was reviewing the amaran and then I immediately stopped when I turned it on and heard the fan. It was definitely a deal breaker for me.
I get it. Glad to hear I’m not the only one.
Are Aputure and Amaran the same brand?
They used to be the same company. Now they’ve split into two companies. Technically sister companies owned by the same holding company so now they’re technically separated, but I think they all work out of the same office.