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what a fantastic interview!

Theresa is still a babe.

Bowie said in Q magazine in 2000 that the Gary Numan story was "apocryphal" and told Q "If he were asked not to come onto the set, it would have been during rehearsals. I do remember having told the studio people that he was welcome to come in for the actual shoot. He never appeared." So somewhere in the middle is the truth.

She's lovely, isn't she?

Tubeway Days rocked Manchester - a fantastic night. This guy nailed it - and the sound was perfect!

Finally TH-cam recommends this channel to me ffs! I knew what I Die You Die was about before listening but still, nice to hear the podcast. Love Numan, Are Friends Electric is still killer even now and probably my favourite Numan song, maybe because I remember it on TOTP back in 79. Blew me away then, still blows me away now.

Wow. That really paints Bowie in a different light than I'd known.

My all time favourite song ever. Absolutely perfect.

Really like this track. Still sounds fresh now. There a couple of versions with production differences in the song I have heard. When the song “Clocks” by Coldplay came out I thought instantly they had lifted ( stolen) the main riff from this track.

Great track and video.still holds up today

Thank you for this. Seminal track, a great b side too. I loved that period, the Video with the corvette stingray. He looked the part, hard to fathom the resentment around his success. Press were so evil, I grew up close to Heathrow too, so Gary was talked about locally, either loved or despised. I remember rushing to buy the Album Telekon on its release in Woolworth. Loved the Artwork, knew and still do all the lyrics. Kenny Everett show then was massive. Bowie was confused towards Numan. I think jealous, and insecure. But then maybe because Numan was at his heights, and even with the vitriol of press, his music was selling. Numan was unique, no one could place him alongside anything else. I then went off Bowie after that, never purchased any of his stuff after Ashes to Ashes.

Brilliant song and one of Gary's very best tracks. Amazing song!

Bloody disgrace, the way he was treated ... I hated NME, melody maker and sounds ... I remember the nonsense on the Everett show and Bowie's so called inferiority complex, which annoyed me as I liked them both and still do ... Great song and Telekon is still one of his best .

Super track one of my favourites,and what a video it has Gary’s image is awesome and so original the red in his hair was amazing

The Kenny Everett TV vn was recorded for the show

Love this tune. I was a nightclub DJ when this came out and played it a lot. It went well with All stood Still and Sleep Walk from Ultravox.

Get a haircut girl. 🎉

My favourite Numan track of all time I find the whale song like synth so relaxing! Just put on a set of headphones relax and enjoy !!!

I Dream of Wires still gives me chills... 40+ years later. Long live this music.

Would have loved to see DVD's face when Tereza ended up singing 'Love's Gotta Hold On Me'.

What a lovely lady

Cracking podcast as ever..👍

the cold warning dvd is so hard to find! paid so much for it but very worth it Berserker is a lovely numan album

keep up the good work

I remember I heard the Grace Jones version of Disconnect From You.

I loved My Car Slides, what a b-side!

Great song and album. Loved the b-sides from this era. She Cries was a demo from the warriors sessions that he’d finished for the Berserker sessions and originally This Ship Comes Apart which was a 1985 Call out the dogs b side was actually an unfinished song recorded for the Berserker album as it appears on the initial track listing he shared with fans in spring 1984. Also to correct Berserker was never released on CD in its initial release and wasn’t until 1991 when he decided to release his Numa back catalogue on CD was it available on CD.

Superb song and album. With a fantastic tour to go with it.

I have always loved its unrelenting quality, it was a statement of intent as a set opener when I went to see him on the Machine Music Tour (with the girl in blue lipstick and berserker makeup lip-synching on the video wall behind him) and providing that immediate energy and thunderous bass that you want in a vibey live setting.

Don’t care what anyone says I love the album Berserker one of my favorites. Berserker, The God Film and My Dying Machine, all classics Gary the always Shapeshifting musician!

Great podcast.the live tour was epic for Berserker.I think Rrussell had contact lenses in that glowed under UV light which was very cool😎

Just saw them at Guilford Electric Theatre in August 24. Absolutely amazing.Talk about time travel - this was Numan in his pomp and these guys do it to a T. Bristol in 2025... can waiting !!

Grace Jones has covered this song.

I remember this ad well! ah, nostalgia!

Great album And such a cool image too. This and Pleasure Principle are my two faves

wembley '81 best version

John made his own way in life with just a little bit of help from Garys money and fame,he was very successful as a pilot though, but musically talentless.

The Damned did a send up of Gary Numan very early (1979?) , they recorded a John Peel session and did a medley of known songs , this snippet was entitled “Gay Bars” …. Largely based on the “Cars” riff it also dipped into the “Don’t be a Dummy” song towards the end …it’s only about 90 seconds long. In this age they would never be able to get away with it but at the time it was a bit of fun Here’s the link to it on TH-cam th-cam.com/video/N1oGTxtLWAg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vhhSxsUJzpU2J4t-

The Damned did a send up of Gary Numan very early (1979?) , they recorded a John Peel session and did a medley of known songs , this snippet was entitled “Gay Bars” …. Largely based on the “Cars” riff it also dipped into the “Don’t be a Dummy” song towards the end …it’s only about 90 seconds long. In this age they would never be able to get away with it but at the time it was a bit of fun

there are one or two superb tracks on that album

Always liked Gary since I was at middle school in 1979, damn have such respect from a long time ago, this wonderful guy is still gigging now, double respect. Cheers for the memories.

Amazing thanks. Where can I find the best Gary Newman interview?

I remember seeing this ad at the time and there was just something about Gary's voice that grabbed me, then I heard AFE and everything changed for me!

Always liked this lady, serious hots for her back in the early 80's, cheers for the memories.

I never knew I didn't know as much about this song. :-)

Saw Tubeway Days at Guildford recently and it was AMAZING.

Greatband

While still a hundred times better than much of the dross that is out there, this album cements Numan' s descent into...kisch pomp rock. What Mr Numan seems to have forgotten is the Less is More principle. To express dark emotions you don' t need to whisper or yell - both risk sounding lame. You just need some well chosen lines. You don' t need to stuf your songs with adjectives to show people you can read ( leave that to Peter Hammill). You don' t need explanatory subtitles after your album' s title ( the audiencecwill work it out). A few good lines casually inserted into an otherwise compised song will do the job. Here are some from his " middle petiod': ' I can' t sing, I can' t dance/ I" m too old, I" m too thin' ' Listen, do you think I don' t know/ I ' ve got a face like metsl and a radio". " You waited for me/ you nade a mistake/ I' ll give you nothing but lies, or nothing at all' Chilling , prrovocative lines scatteted around swinging tracks wuthout need for emphatic theatrics.

For me, the standout piece on this album is 'The Pleasure Skin' . This number - with it' s spooky paranoid ambience and narrative lyrics - represents the much needed missing link between the earlier Science Fictional Numan with its evocation of a world of androids - which made his name - and the later ( unjustly derided) electrofunk period whuch " The Fury' presaged. "Pleasure Skin' is a hugely underrated song - atmospheric wjth a premise behind it but still functioning as a rock song for al that. If there had been more songs like this in his so called " middle period' then his earlier fans mught have felt a tad less left out.

Noise noise great track