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I now not only have several new book recommendations to chase up, but also a new sense of motivation to be purposeful in life and classics. I'm just applying to do a master's in classics after getting myself through a more "practical" bachelor's degree. I am finally allowing myself to just follow my passion, and this video helps me feel like I'll still be able to turn it into real change and progress. Thanks for this. It came at the perfect time for me and with the perfect message

would you not include the minoans as greek? because they wern't indo european language? are all the myceneas dorians?ey

Read this as Eddie Hall discusses the mycenaeans

If you compare HOMER with GILKAMESH it's like comparing NIETZHE WITH HARRY POTTER

Super interesting, Andy! I have quite a bit of listening to do!

Superstar. Thank you. My Classicists and I really value your lectures.

Interesting talk. I started watching this slightly sceptical that it might be an attempt to make Homeric scholarship trendy and even Woke by reading modern political concerns into an Ancient text where they don't really belong, but ended up converted. Didn't know before that crafts like pottery (requiring wood to fire kilns) and metalwork relocated in Greece over time to areas that still had sufficient timber.

31.50 References to widespread use of iron in the Iliad for tools but preferential use of bronze for weapons, because 'more easily tempered'. New way of looking at it for me. If true, perhaps we should stop talking about Homer's time as The Bronze Age? I wonder why then within a few further centuries iron arms and armour had, as far as I know, universally replaced bronze, even for aristocrats who could presumably afford bronze armour and weapons, even if iron was cheaper? I had previously taken it that Homer composed in the Iron Age based on legends surviving (probably often via previous, now lost, poems) from the Bronze Age. We know from Homer's probable near contemporary Hesiod that the Ancient Greeks had a concept of there having once been a Bronze Age 'when there was no black iron' and tools that by Hesiod's time were made of iron were then bronze, even if Hesiod mythologises this into a whole succession of Ages beginning with a Golden Age and then a Silver Age. I had assumed Homer's heroes fight with bronze weapons because Homer knew that centuries before that is what they had, and his occasional references to iron are anachronisms, reflecting what happened in his own day, or possibly sometimes that even in the Bronze Age small quantities of iron were sometimes found in meteorites and worked into knives and other implements.

Wonderful lecture series.

Would the famous playwright, Christopher Marlowe have counted as working class? I read that his dad was a shoemaker. However, young Kit Marlowe went to a good school and won a scholarship to go to Cambridge.

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Very informative! Thanks alot!

anyone who hasnt watched Pier Paolo Pasolin's 1969 cinematic version of this story should check it out, its so bloody good

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Classics should be taught everywhere, for all ages. Hey Edith, will you give your take on Diogenes and the School of cynics?

Hey loved the efforts, Your video's awesome! I'm a video editor who's helped creators grow their channels by delivering a story from their videos. Would you be interested in chatting and learning some tricks to make your videos pop even more?

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Welcome back, Dr. Hall!

I thought you were writing a book on this topic. Would love to read an eco critique of the Iliad.

My father got me your book for my birthday this is amazinf

great video, Edith Hall!

Inspiring on many levels. Thank you!

The names are not a coincidence. Linear B was 'deciphered' 80 years ago by taking the most common Greek words of the Iliad and pasting them over the most common "Linear B sylables". So, Bullshit in, Bullshit out. So much to "truth seeking" and "scientific" approach.

In the same vein, do you think it ought be a litmus test of our society that many satirical jokes about minority groups are not widely tolerated?

Fantastic video.

I don't doubt that as time goes on and new discoveries are made, we'll find further evidences of the Mycenaeans early lexicon written/spoken on the mainland and be able to discern the differences with the later Cretan Myceono-Cretan script. I don't know why we don't 'know' the Minoans' real name by now, their name must have been spoken in records we have, we just haven't put two and two together yet. I would expect to find some mention in myth, regarding a people who fell foul of their god and were made examples of for the rest of humanity. One would expect Minoan artisans to have been in demand after they sought refuge, and their foreign names to be included in registers, which could assist in determining aural potentials. I'm of the mind that the Theran eruption caused far more than immediate carnage, and caused a nuclear winter which destabilised the whole region, allowing multiple polities to take advantage of local conditions over the next 400 years, until the next tipping-point brought the next human epoch, Iron, and the next confederation from beyond the horizon.

Madea is insane, kills everyone, gets off Scott free every time and is still the "victim" of everyone and everything. More of that "Modern Feminism" we all love so much. LOL!

"Modern Feminists" trying to spin Madea's murder and madness as "empowering" is as deranged as it is hilarious. Oh the irony of these lonely, old cat ladies who do nothing but study "Old, Dead, White men" and the "Patriarchy", while complaining about them the whole time. Beyond pathetic.

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GeorgeSupera Good afternoon sir.I have a project on the Ancient Greek Drama and I have deceided to involve the Ancient Theatre of Ďionisus in my document However , I dont know if one of the resourses I found is accurate or not

Thank you Edith. This was really informative. Amazing to think that it echoes down the millennia.

This lady deserves a Damewood.

Wow,what a Vista. I yearn to learn and learning to yearn.Many thanks.

I'm having to write an essay if Dido was responsible or a victim of her tragedy, and if she shares characteristics of a hero. And this is very helpful for my studies!

A wonderful articulation of a great purpose, obviously fueled by a great passion. I look forward to listening and learning.

So helpful in a current project I am working on. Intrigued by Paladine in The Fairy Queen. Thank you for creating this.

Glad I found your channel. Your book on Aristotle is wonderful.

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3:17 I heard “mackinaw” instead of “mercantile considerations” on my first listen. I thought you were making a lumberjack joke. I love your channel and blog. Thank you for all of your work.

Excellent content so very well presented! How did I reach my seventies without knowing much about these amazing people?? Liked and subscribed!

loving it edith

Have you ever read Marija Gimbutas' work and findings on (what she termed) "Old Europe" and the Mother/Goddess-centric societies that she hypothesized there? I would love to see more continuing work on that in modern anthropology and history-keeping, to me it is just fascinating and amazing. She was an amazing anthropologist... This was an amazing video as well, thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom!

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You are too sexy for your age Edith. I can't believe someone can be so cute and intelligent even at this age. Please do a philosophy vedio about aging and how you can gracefully age. Love ❤️

Thank you, this was wonderful!

I'm excited by these ideas and the thorough citation of sources in this talk. But has humans' relation to Nature always been conflicted? Is that not perhaps an essentialist and flawed argument? I'm glad to hear about the protest that saved the trees in Turkey, but can such actions stop the global juggernaut of Civilization? I'd like to think so, if greatly multiplied and expanded. But it may be that Civilization itself is the source of our destructive relations to Nature. You mentioned a ten-thousand year time period that just happens to coincide, give or take a few hundred years, with the abandonment of gatherer-hunter life and the assumption of domestication, sedentism, warfare, and the creation of cities (the "civis" in Civilization). I've been greatly influenced John Zerzan's books and his radio show broadcast out of Eugene Oregon, Anarchy Radio, that elaborate on that sole thesis. However, I find it a problematic one to embrace. I love the great art of civilizations. Therefore, my relation to nature AND civilization is conflicted, and besides, at my age, I'd make a poor gatherer-hunter. But I will respond to your call to action in ways that my circumstance allows. I appreciate your sense of urgency that I hear in your delivery.

Fabulous. Delivered with great passion, exactly as I think it should be for anyone who believes “Homeric/Epic poetry” was the performance poetry of its day, performed by travelling “bards” & subsequently written up by Homer. Any plans to deliver the other books of the Iliad in similar fashion? The constant references in the poem to Achilles going back to slaughter “shed-loads” more Trojans in between getting the Gods to help kept it grounded. I do wonder what the audiences made of this. Were they really thinking this is what a “hero” should do? Next, “eco literary criticism” was new to me. I’ve seen Marxist. Feminist & Racial forms of literary criticism/analysis before & got them, at least a bit/ I’ve seen interpretations of the “Late Bronze Age Decline in the Middle East” which reference “natural” climate change as a possible cause for the decline. However, I’ve not come across any that suggest it could be seen (then or now) as “man made” , e.g. de-forestation for fashioning bronze armour or building a thousand? ships. It sounds plausible to me that some at the time might have questioned whether this was a sensible way to proceed. Who knows? Keep up the good work.

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It looks increasingly likely that whatever language the Minoans spoke, it was in fact an Indo-European dialect. (See Fingelberg)