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Id add to the fact that deathshroud are the most expensive base termi outside custodes and certain units with upgrades, there only good thing is 3 wounds with battlehardened 1 they have next to no shooting ability just the alchem flamers and the powerscythe only being rending 6 means they can bearly fight other similar termis. when you mentioned rad grenades they only get that when a character joins them as they dont have a character so your adding more points to a unit to make it better, they cant take a spartan as a DT same a grave wardens.there biggest flaw IMO is there tartorus armour while sweeping is nice and running a 5+ invuln on 70/75 point models isnt enough yeah Thammers and fists wont kill them out right but they will will still die to all the wounds going through. So id reckon that Deathshroud are a low C/ High D cause to make them good they need a character

Almost spamming the question who that mat is from. Whoever they are, they should sponsor you because you made me want to buy it.

Great rep guys- where did you get those UM Helmets?!

Holy Christ that is some hot garbage dice rolling. That’s the tabletop life but makes for a pretty lame series of events. Cool game overall though. Thanks for showing it off!

Eek. I don’t know if this is half as much terrain as you would need.

Does anyone now what game mat that is? Just getting back into Mordheim. Was looking at option but this one is better than all the ones I found.

at 39 mins you dashed out of combat, which you can't do. Retreat is like charge a thing you can do as a part of a move. Dash is limited to Standard Move.

Great game guys! could you please get some tokens to use as activation tokens so we can see who has activated.

When the dreadnaught charged the Reavers, they take a moral to see if they stand and fight not run away. The charge would still happen but on a fail they are eliminated.

Forgot Benny Hill? Disgusting!

I want to play this so badly but missed the Kickstarter.

I already started collecting solar auxilia. But i dont want to buy the book for just one army, do i have any other options? You're video was really helpful btw. I was on the fence of running these guys cause lasgun infantry dont do squat for me but these las rifles actually have potential!

Woo more RG,nice

It was The Benny Hill Show^^

Trench Crusade!!!

I just got into the game, reading the rules as watching the game. Question: if Sniper Rifle is risky itself, you yake a test while aiming and than another for shooting? On the other hand, the priest has a built in +2 dice on ranged attacks Or did i miss something?

If you accept any feedback, love the video but the background music I think is a little bit loud. Sometimes I had to make an effort to hear your words instead of the background music. Still, love the music in the back.

First TC battle rep I've seen. May I ask what size board that is?

Assault weapons can only shoot once if you still want to charge.

You don't test to see if you can charge a unit with Terror, you only test if you are charge by a model that case terror. You also give the opponent a -1 to their Leadership Characteristic if you win combat and the roll their Break Test, this is quite important. Terror casuing units also follow the rules for fear, that means you only roll fear if the opponent outnumber you. The General was outnumbered but the knights was not. You also don't get free reform after you pursue or overun someone, you need to pass a leadership test.

No way Firedrakes are that low. They're top 3 melee terminators. Thunder Hammers, 3++, and re-roll 1s to wound? What terminators can match that besides Huscarls, Varagyr, and maybe Cenobium Knights?

35:38 less. Headhunters with multi-melta and 4x combi-meltas is only like 165.

You do realize that an Inner Circle can swallow their sword for Thunder Hammers for free, right?

As an EC player, not sure Phoenix Guard deserve to be that high. Yes they are defensive and thats nice, but they leave all the heavy lifting to any characters. Having a load of power-fist or TH wielding command squad termies will all hit at initiative 2 on the charge and absolutely wreck ahead of enemy striking - so you don't need to rely on that WS6 so bad

Well well well! Reavers dead last. How do you try to play them? My reavers consistently slap other elite units around with power fists or serve as cheap despoiler alternatives.

Hrmmm......here is the thing though, fire drakes are THE best terminators in the game. Beating a full squad of ten is nearly impossible with any other close combat unit. I run them in my Alpha legion where the rest of the army is entirely focused on shooting, the fire drakes can handle any threat a close combat army can throw at them and usually wade through multiple squads. Add a librarian to the squad if you want insanity.

Putting all of these in one list, does make it kind of hard to read. I would have preferred 1 for loyalist, 1 for traitors

Another bit of an upsell on Lernean Terminators, since chainfists lost specialist weapon, you can give the sergeant one, and pay 5 points for a power dagger (which also lost specialist weapon) to make him 5 attacks on the charge.

A note on power weapons: Axe: S+1, Ap2, Unwieldy Lance: S+1, Ap3, Reach 1 Maul: S+2, Ap3 Sword: S User, Ap3, Rending 6+ For punching Termies and Artificer armored Marines, the Axe takes the cake. For mulching marines, the Maul wins out. For challenges, or if you want to cut down marines before they fight back, the Lance. If you like fishing for 6s at initiative, the Sword gets you a chance at Ap2 at initiative.

Hell yeah, love to see it. Now make your own models!!!

I still dont get why firedrakes are so low. They will cream everything in s tier 1v1.

No Efrit?!

you've surely roped yourselves into a primarch tier list right? please!

Golden keshig are very good, fairly cheap, decent save and hit like a truck. Can take multiples without breaking the points bank. Great for lifting dreads and terminators

Terror squads for night lords are amazing. They're a glass cannon unit. You should equip them with a mix of chaingiaves and rotor cannons for pinning. I take squad of 10 with 3 rotors and 7 chaingiaves. I run my praetor around with them too. Last game i played they killed a contemptor and then 20 blood angels power sword weilding marines and then held up an elite melee unit for the rest of the game.

i think ashem circle are bottom of c. Yes the are better assault units but AC are the best destroyers wiht in built melta bombs

Yassss finally! This was a banger, I agree on pretty much everything. But! I completely disagree on the osiron dreadnought. And it baffles me, because you said it's one of those units it's universally agreed it's very good and it's not even worth discussing on it. So, yeah, here's my opinion on why it's actually bad. First of all, it costs 25 points more than a regular dreadnought. What do you gain? Adamantium will 4+ (whatever), and a weapon that is brutal 2 instead of 3 but can go up to S11. To me, this is already a massive no, it's a downgrade and a massive points difference for a worse loadout. Sure, S11 (which isn't granted, you have to pass a Ld9 test, and you're gonna fail it more than you want) can be situationally good against battle hardened units, but that's a lot of ifs. If you get the power off, if you get the dreadnought in combat, if that unit is actually a battle hardened one (how many are there anyway?), if you're willing to pay more points just for this rare occasion. Then, the icing on this already shitty cake: you have to pay 15 points to benefit from the legion rule, something almost every other legion dreadnought gets for free. And for what? Yeah, a single sniper lascannon shot (not both you get from the gravis las, just one) can be nice, or a +3 movement, but you can kill yourself with that minor power. Ld9 is not good for psychic powers, you still have a pretty high chance of failing the test to warrant 235 points of a worse dreadnought than its base cousin. Finally, you have the option to make it a psyker: 50 points more. An osiron magnus with lascannon and meltagun in the fist is 300 points, as much as a Leviathan. Is an extra ld9 librarian, on top of the 4 you should already have as base in a 3k game, worth more than a Leviathan? Not to me. Honestly, the osiron is such a let down. It's much, MUCH more expensive than a regular dread, it can blow itself up, the benefits you gain are questionable, the weapon you get is arguably a downgrade, and the option of making it a psyker is fun but hardly worth it. Anyway, great show guys, keep it up! Looking forward to the other episodes <3

Awesome list, the only one I would argue is that Night Raptors are Bottom of A right below the P blades. In terror assault they are just insanely good if they pin they can end up with 6 attacks EACH on their normal mooks with Lightning claws. Throw a chaplin in there and they are just blenders. I've not had a unit I have not killed with them if they got the pin and the charge.

Mhara Gal have to be S tier. They are insane! Enjoying the tier lists.

Loved the first one guys cant wait to finish this one

Rampagers ftw. Chaplain with thunder hammer, apothecary, ruin a lot of units.

Iron Circle may have synergy with Mech allies, but they’re so absolutely outshined by Dominators since the suffer from the WS4 that melee Mechanicum suffers from. Tyrant Sieges are the ideal of the standard-Marine-bullying unit, and even vs dreadnoughts the Legion rule comes into play. I’ll eat my goddamn hat if Havocs aren’t in S tier.

I'm not sure if I understand your reasoning for putting Contekars on D and Raptors on B whil they serve the same role and are fairly similar on terms of cost. You deep strike them and they murder/pin objecive holders. Raptors are faster, Contekars are more durable. I would have put them both in C tbh

HELL YEAH

‘Ere We go ❤

Awesome, finaly a good quality Trench Crusade BatRep. More pls :) Two issues though: Music needs to be much quiter pls, it was at times hard to understand. And also, what happened to the last Yeoman and the Mechanised Infantry, they were never deployed ?

1:00:00 god move the fuck on, the whole situation is so short sighted.... If you have 1 model I care for, I have 1 reaction....then the order you fire is largely irrelevant unless your weaker stuff can change the math.... The hypothetical is pure whine snobbery.

Great, love it.

At 11:45 you did that wrong. The sniper priest should have been rolling WAY more dice. +2 for Aim, +2 Ranged base, +1 for the sniper rifle, -1 for long range, -1 for cover. Total = +3. Roll 5 dice and keep the highest 2. Aslo, if it was a critical hit you add +2 dice to the injury roll because a sniper rifle has the keyword Critical. Roll 4 keep the highest 2. End result likely the same.

Definitely curious how the campaign stuff works for this. :D