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7:18 you really had to throw in the "trans rights are human rights" ? It factually is not a human right by any country's definition, you cannot force me to believe gender can be changed around like Lego pieces, that doesn't make me evil or a threat to your rights, just means I don't agree and don't have to, rights cannot violate another's rights, that makes it no longer a right if only specific people are given it, this is a mario kart wii video, please stop finding an excuse to make it about "trans rights"

CTGP admin/competitive player here for the last 3 years or so, just gonna spitball address the 5 issues. 1. Too long tracks- I actually generally disagree with this. I appreciate you acknowledging it's very subjective, and I while I definitely recognize there are some that feel too long it's usually from the tracks being boring. Take GCN Rainbow Road, I find it pretty funny but I understand that for most people it's just incredibly boring. WR is 3:36 or something pre-kart cut and only really has 1 interesting part (the end cut and spiral). So when you drive the rest of the track, it just feels very boring and monotonous. Whereas something like desert fort (which you brought up) and honeybee hideout, along with castle of time all have really interesting driving for the majority of it. You bring up an interesting point with rBC being the longest track in Wii, which is true but I like to see it in a different context. WR on that is 4:19 iirc. Obviously it's for a different platform, but I don't find it entirely unprecedented to have there be long tracks as they can provide interest if the inherent track is good. 2. Required tech- Just elaborating on this now as well since I know it's brought up later, there is more to tech than just some series of inputs that let you take a shortcut. It can also be just specific driving methods that work really well in niche scenarios. That's one of the reasons why the CTGP version of 3ds RR has held up for so long, there is genuinely so much tech in the driving here and there. If you go pull up Ivan's world record video on it and just watch the driving, you'll notice there are times he'll wheelie off ramps instead of trick, avoid tricking at all to go tight (like on the spiral), go off the edge of ramps to get lower air, cancel his wheelie to land on the right part of the moon, hoptrick to force a trick off the moon, clip the very side of a ramp to get a low, etc etc etc. To a casual perspective I can totally understand how perceiving these seem almost impossible, but it's one of those things that when you get better at the game, you can start to appreciate it much more. I would highly, highly recommend watching Sawyer's BKT on glimmer express trains to see an amazing example of tech and driving, probably one of the best CT WRs on a tech track ever and a lot of it is easy to notice if you pay attention even for a casual. The question is really where is the line drawn between tech that is fun and tech that is bad. I actually love to drive peaks and really do enjoy the tech on the track, but I think we can all agree here that the tech being required on the track is one of the most prominent issues in the community and we'll get into that more later. 3. Too Jank- I can agree with this in large part, but feel like this just overlaps with your second point about required tech which I would just extend to required knowledge. Pipe underworld L1 route falling down, Incendia L1 path falling, etc. I've even volunteered to help out over time with those (I made the update to infernal pipeyard getting in next update, have started the mushroom peaks remake as well) so I fully do back the idea that there are tracks that could do amazing with just some minor changes and visual overhauls. I get that delfino island might seem a bit weird, but it's really just a wheelie off the ramp. And if you're not comfortable, the around route was buffed to only lose 1.5 seconds or so which is akin to doing the dock shortcut on delfino square. Don't get me wrong we still have some other ones not addressed here (like paths on SKL) but point is I agree and think we are getting better largely. 4. Too many tracks- I like the argument you made here about the variety being an issue, and I do agree that overall the pack is split. The thing is, I genuinely don't see a way to make a good pack at this point. The main reason retro rewind is doing so well is due to lack of NAND. This means people don't have to own a game or console to play, they just download the game of the internet, boot up dolphin on their PC, and bam they can play with troy and everyone else in their rooms. CTGP doesn't have that because Bean refuses to add it (for very understandable legal reasons), so we're inherently dealing with a limited playerbase. CTWWs are dead, and we don't have a lot of players anymore. If we decide to go full casual, comp will die and we won't have enough players anymore to play online. If we go full comp, that could in theory work as they don't really CTWW but we'd be dealing with an incredibly stagnant pack and trust me comp is a cynical bitch. While I agree that there is a problem especially with certain tracks appealing to only one audience (Melting to comp for example, and Toad's Temple for casuals), we're not really in a position where we have the ability to change that. 5. Community Management- Before we really dive into this, I want to really give an idea for what we as admins and council have control over. We do homework on tracks submitted to the pack, vote on them, and then accept/reject based on votes. We also run community threads for authors to try and help them get feedback on their work to varying degrees of success. We also run tests to try and prevent the tracks from being broken when they get added. That's about it though. Things like removing mushroom peaks or removing tracks in the top 50 popularity at all are explicitly forbidden by Bean, and we have to convince him to remove those which believe me with tracks like peaks we have tried. I've successfully helped remove ASDF course and made the paper to remove GP mario beach, but again we're talking hours and hours of work just to try to convince Bean to remove a track he really doesn't care about. A track like peaks is incredibly important to him, it's a track he made with his sibling in the primes of their lives, staying up late drinking soda and eating pizza or whatever and just having time together. This is all speculation, but I would argue that's one of the large reasons even if he can't admit it to himself that he doesn't want it gone, and being honest I understand that totally. You'll hear arguments about popularity and whatever about why it should stay, but being as candid as I can I don't think anyone really deep down believes peaks is healthy for the pack. None of this is to slander bean in any way, in fact I empathize a lot with the sort of sacrifice and time he has put to getting the community to where it is now, but it's clearly time for him to let go of that past and focus on a new direction for the game in the path that peaks lead all the way back in 2009 nearly 15 years ago. Also minor fact correction, removal polls never had all the tracks on them. We put up surveys every 6 months to track how well tracks are liked (the figure you cited) but the removal polls are different. I'd be happy to share all the removal results with you as well if you want to see them, but mushroom peaks has never been on a removal poll nor have a majority of tracks been on a removal poll. We specifically target low popularity tracks and low rating tracks for removal. In fact 2 updates ago Incendia Castle was on the list and wasn't voted out for removal somehow. I'd be fine to talk about this and get more into the details with you as well in a call at some point as there is a lot I'm not going into for the sake of brevity (acting as if this is brief), lmk if you're interested. I'm rocksaltwa on discord. Have a nice evening

Idk how difficult it would be to add, but i think it would be a cool idea to allow each player to ban like 3 tracks from being picked in worldwides. I understand it could be annoying to not be able to choose a track you want because someone randomly decided to ban it, and im sure the pros would hate it because a lot of the advanced tracks would be banned by newer players, but it would force people to choose something unique instead of the same tracks over and over to gain easy VR. It would also probably be a useful statistic to see which tracks are the most disliked by the community. I HIGHLY doubt this would ever be added tho

4:08 yeah the barrier of entry is so high to the point where Someone who was a high-level Mogi player five years ago reentering now stands NO CHANCE

i used to avidly play ctgp, and i can confirm that the difficulty curve is way too much. it took me at least a YEAR to become decent at most of the tracks, and even then you still will have tracks that you aren't good at and hate playing. and if you take a break from the game, you come back to find that there are many new tracks that are long and filled with tech, each taking hours, sometimes even days to learn. it's really a terrible mode for casuals, but can be really fun and rewarding for veterans looking for an extra challenge and have the time and skill to master the tracks, but those people are very few and far between. it's also kinda annoying how it monopolized the ct pack world and became a requirement, with every form of competitive (tts and online) highly recommending or flat out requiring ctgp. i get that a one stop shop for competitive is good for integrity, but i also feel like it forced people to download something they may not be fully interested in (as some players ONLY got it for comp but still exclusively play regs), and also made it seem like the ONLY ct pack you would need. it feels like we've outgrown ctgp, and other packs are taking over. of course people will obviously use ctgp for tts and competitive, but it has lost it's original purpose as a ct pack.

I’ve been a Mario Kart Wii CT fan for 3 years now, and I have only played CTGP for one of them. Granted, I’m not the kind of person who plays online, I just like MKW mods for the track selection and how fun they are to play locally. Still, I agree with a few of the points you brought, but my personal biggest issue is the track rotation. Every few months, it just kinda feels like they’re getting rid of a few good and actually fun tracks for others that might be better or worse, while keeping outdated trash like Mushroom Peaks and Six King Labyrinth, and forcing you to get a completely different mod, CTGP Classic, if you wanna play that specific track again. Revolution is fine as an introduction to custom tracks, but there are much better options that I’m playing nowadays such as Mario Kart Wii Deluxe, the Mario Kart Midnight games, and the 4500-track playground Insane Kart Wii. That last option especially is a blast to play with my brothers, the random items option is pure chaos.

I've been watching the pack change ever since late 2018 and had a bit of competitive custom track experience from 2019-2021. I recently came back from a 3 year hiatus to learn some of the tracks that I missed out on and to play custom track clan wars with my friends. I have to say that, overall, this pack lost its charm. A lot of the tracks that get in the pack nowadays, although fun to drive once you actually put in the time and effort to learn them, feel very generic and lacking of the charm that the older tracks, which are what got me invested into CTGP-R in the first place, had. And I don't mean peaks, because I hate that track too despite knowing how to do everything in it. There are plenty of other unique older tracks that feel like custom tracks yet are also fair (assuming you took the time to time trial them for 20-30 minutes) and quite fun online. The only real issues with them are the visuals and maybe a few slightly janky things that some of them had. What saddens me and a lot of the older/former CTGP-R players is that a lot of those perfectly fine older tracks are being updated with versions that don't really bring anything new to the table (this is the case with some of the retroes specifically), or are straight up replaced with newer, visually appealing tracks that unfortunately just aren't as fun to play online, especially in a competitive setting. They're too long and/or too boring and forgettable and/or too complicated/tech-heavy (to the point where it feels like I'm always competing against the track rather than the other players despite how much practice I put into them) and/or they just give terrible races due to a combination of the track layout itself, the strats and shortcuts involved, and item box placements. Of course, there are older tracks that deserved to go (because they have the issues that I just listed + more) and newer tracks that are actually really good and add value to the pack, but the general consensus between me, some of my friends, and a lot of the older players is that the pack just isn't as good as it used to be. Also, the frequent updates kind of devalues each track that gets in in my opinion. All that being said, there are people who've been around as long as I have or longer who think that the pack has actually gotten better over time, and I very much respect their opinion. But yea, this is just my insight into the problems of modern day CTGP-R as someone who can almost be considered a veteran.

3:29 100% agree 4:08 Definitely true but I don't see that changing anytime soon 4:56 Yep 9:37 There's been no focus toward the new player experience. I've tried offering solutions to this like an easier alternative CTWW mode removing half the tracks with 150cc only. This would give new players a chance and bring activity to worldwides again (hopefully). It's been the same problems keeping the mod from getting more active players for years now unfortunately. Luckily there are many other CT distributions available nowadays helping keep the game alive

I remember a few years ago I watched one of my favourite streamers, Fuzzyness, get into mkw through CTGP. He seemed to really enjoy playing the game until Peaks was picked. He ended up giving up without completing even a lap and I haven‘t seen him play the game since. I can‘t help but wonder how many other players had this exact experience with the game.

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My main issue is the fact that there is zero custom music. If you look at mario kart wii deluxe, that has a bunch of custom tracks, custom music and many retro coruses are well made. Another one is that you NEED a wii and copy of mkwii. Other ctgp's dont require this. Wii hardware is gonna die eventually.

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I feel like a way to resolve the issue is to have 2 packs. Ctgp r for more casual people as it the “main” ct pack. I think it could have lots of retros and constantly update adding new tracks for more casual players. Removing tracks like peaks, 6 king and incendia could really make new people want to play and not drive others away. I think having more than 218 tracks would be better(maybe 300) so that there is more variety. Then a pack like ctgp classic. This would rarely update and have lots of old, iconic tracks that veterans have spent many hours learning. This could keep casual and competitive people happy and allow content creators to have a choice at what they want. Tracks like peaks, rezway 2 and 6 king would probably be better here. I think some tracks may be good in both packs(glimmer express trains, lunar lights etc) but it could help separate the 2 main audiences so they aren’t clashing with each other. I think ctgp r would still probably need more fixes. I think the update pattern is quite bad. Sometimes they’ll do it 3 months in a row and sometimes they’ll be half a year gaps. I also think they’re rejecting many tracks that would be great because they’re not perfect even though tracks in ctgp aren’t always perfect. This is why 300 tracks may be better as they have less pressure to make tracks absolutely perfect. And if a track is generally unpopular, they can remove it quickly. With the track inconsistencies and slow and smaller updates, I have played ctgp a lot less than I used to. Now I go for other packs like Mario kart midnight and optpack. I feel like if they split the 2 main audiences and updated the game with fresh new tracks on a more regular and consistent schedule, everyone would be happy. At the moment however, veterans are constantly having to learn new tracks and are losing ones they’re good at and new players are being bombarded with difficult tracks and a competitive community they can’t win in. This is also not meant to hate on bean or the track council. I think they are doing a great job in trying to make everyone happy. I just think it stuff doesn’t change, people will move on to other packs instead.

Thanks for the straight to the point timestamp. A lot of youtube videos could learn from that.

Hello Olmi. Good to see you're still going strong and let me just say: Your production value is pretty good. :)

Genuinely I feel like the issues are a lot worse then they otherwise would be had CTGP not been the _only_ distribution most new players flock too, as least for most of the games life. I don’t even have an issue for a CT distribution to have a sort of monopoly on paper, but that distribution needs to live up to that for it to work. As it is now I think a lot of people play CTGP, play the outdated tracks over and over and write off CTs as a whole. It’s honestly kinda upsetting seeing people say things like “90% of custom tracks are garbage” and I feel like a lot of that stems from people not having a good first impression of CTGP and thinking that that’s a summary of custom tracks as a whole, because there are far more amazing tracks that stand toe to toe with Nintendo’s nowadays that a lot of people won’t see. Genuinely I feel like the custom track community would be at its best if CTGP (or whatever the first pack most people play is) was an entry into the greater custom track community rather then having almost a monopoly. Retro Rewind getting popular is a start but it doesn’t fix the problem since retros don’t really introduce a gateway to all the original designs, but eh. My only idea for a solution to this is to make the introductory pack only have highly polished, beginner freindly tracks? Like, The Grand Archives is a perfect example of it like you said, even though it has difficult strats it’s not hard for a newcomer to play it and know where to go from the start. To be honest I don’t really know what I’m saying any more and I haven’t even played CTGP, it just doesn’t appeal to me, just spitballing all my personal problems with it. Great video btw

I my self had enough of ctgp r where it constantly removes the good and interesting tracks and you mentioned most tracks are way too long janky (peaks example) and that they Rather go for quantity then quality with 24player still locked behind a paywall is disgusting something that should have been finished by now sure its impressive but still disgusting and as a mod he is the worse the guy thearten me to be perm ban for first offense its honestly sad he rather listens to hi wiener then his gud and thinks first before taking actions i moved on to other Mario Kart Games and non mk games i feel in a much better place as time goes on in my opinion Ctgp will slowly die and it makes more sense to use Ctgp classic since it kind of cares more about quality then quantity with actual improved features

it doesnt matter much, but karting is an abject nightmare in CTs shrooms and constant flip ramps and blind 90 degree turns makes the tracks monolithic knowledge checks. not all tracks NEED to be easily driven by all vehicles but i genuinely was so done with mile long straight aways that caused a 6 second time-loss because i had the gaul to have 4 wheels. some tracks are even favoured to karts, but those are few and far between.

strongly agree with a lot of the sentiment in this video, very good watch 👍

The community management is straight up poo poo. Releasing a 24 player beta, then not releasing it fully after 4 years is insane. Lack of updates and interesting ideas keep me off CTGP-R.

as a competitive player of around 5ish years, i do understand where a lot of these sentiments come from especially regarding peaks / hard tracks but I really do feel like expecting tracks to not require trial and error is not fair. the mushroom section on peaks especially can be learned relatively quickly if you take the time, its a awful track yes but some of the other hard tracks have been my favorites for years. i do think stubbornness / unwillingness to learn also has a hand in why certain tracks are disliked over others, i mean this all with respect as i get it, just how i generally feel when this topic is brought up, good video 🤝

My heart jumped seeing you upload. Didn't know you played Mario Kart Wii, now I want to see if I can race you on it

You were right to correct yourself when you said Mushroom Peaks was the first every custom track, as it was not. But it also was not the first original design. To my knowledge, if we exclude Test Circle, that would be Lava Canyon (still by MrBean and Chadderz though)! Peaks being the first track is misinformation that was likely started to make it seem more integral to staying in CTGP than it really is. It's still a very early track and was still revolutionary for its time, but yeah not the first. I've been saying this about the target audience for years, and I've mentioned this to members of the track council too. They're trying to appeal to everyone, but in turn are appealing to very little people. CTWW is so much less popular than it used to be, and it's no surprise why. Everyone's playing Retro Rewind nowadays, partially because it's more accessible with emulators, but at least for me I'd rather play only retro tracks than have a chance of running into Mushroom Peaks or an arbritarily long track, even though I generally prefer original designs. I think Mushroom Peaks is very representitive of the problem which is why it's such a scapegoat, and genuinely for me if it was removed I'd probably be more willing to play CTGP. At least that's how I felt a few years ago. Nowdays, other packs interest me a lot more. Speaking of Council, they really are trying. They're always trying to get more casual, non comp players on board. And a lot of them fully agree that Peaks should be gone (from what I hear), but they're simply not allowed because Bean has the final say. And Bean doesn't value "unpopularity" seemingly at all, only seeming to really care about the amount of times it gets picked online which is flawed for so many reasons imo. I used to have a lot of issues with council, but they've gotten so much better with how they treat authors and the higher ups are genuinely great people. I don't have any issues with Bean either, just how he runs CTGP. Hi Bean if you see this, sorry I'm always being mean to your pack!

The issue with Peaks is that Mr. Bean takes a bit too much pride in his tracks to the point where you can't remakes his tracks at all so don't even bother asking. Peaks has already been remade as "Mushroom Mountain" which fixes a lot of the issues with Peaks, but since it wasn't done by bean himself it'll never be put in the pack let alone replace Peaks. I get it, hearing people bash on your track and say "this person made the track so much better" will hurt, but letting Peaks get replaced by Mushroom Mountain solves the current track's complaints and leaves his original work technically untouched, letting him be able to put Peaks back in whenever he can fix the layout in the way he wants it fixed.

A video talking trash about Custom Tracks in Mario Kart Wii? I'm sold!

I haven't played CTGP in a while, but I still diatinctly remember a lot of track design problems. Bouncing mushrooms not being placed well/too many of them in a row, tracks being too long, tracks being too complicated both for players and CPUs, and a *lot* of sudden turns being placed too closely to the landing off of a ramp making it impossible to make the turn unless you have an inside drifting bike or position yourself weirdly prior to going off the ramp.

I certainly agree that the main issue with CTGP-R nowadays is the difficulty to appeal to both casual/non-competitive players and competitive/long-time players. The good news is this is being addressed and there are plans to hopefully make CTGP-R better appeal to casuals while not ruining it for competitive players. The CTGP Council consists of mostly players who play competitively or do time trials frequently, and not as many casual CTGP players who mostly just play in CTWWs and fun rooms. Fortunately, the most recent Council applications were only for casual players in hopes that casual players (myself included) have a voice. This will hopefully allow for more tracks being added to CTGP-R being enjoyed by both casual and competitive players. Of course there will be some that only appeal to one side, but hopefully less. And there are indeed some tracks that were added to CTGP lately that are enjoyed by both sides, such as Fort Francis and Shy Guy Lumber Co. Even Banished Keep is enjoyed by both sides because although there's many cuts and strats, many of them are fairly easy to learn and feel great wehn you finally pull them off, and it's pretty fun to drive in general and has a nice scenery. Some tracks in the pack are indeed long/boring. Sometimes they are fixed or removed but it can be difficult for that to happen especially if they are picked often. They would need to have serious issues that make their precense in CTGP bad (I know Mushroom Peaks counts there but it's especially tough when it's almost always the top picked track). People can pick them to cheese free wins and VR or just for memes. That's unfortunately an issue that extends to tracks beyond Mushroom Peaks. I do agree that CTGP-R is in a tough position now, especially with other MKWii packs competing now, but I do hope that people are optimistic for the future and that the plans and recent casual voices being added work out for CTGP and attract more new players.

Hey y’all, I’m the guy who said I’m quitting CTGP in the stream clip included in this video and I wanted to include a little more context since I think it helps make a point Olmi *partially* forgot to cover in this video. The clip played right after Olmi talked about beginners quitting, but I’m not actually new to the game at all, I’ve actively considered mkwii to be one of if not my favourite game of all time since it came out, and I’ve played it somewhat often for all those years including streaming it weekly for the past 3 years… …But I still cannot almost ever complete even one lap of Mushroom Peaks without falling off the long mushroom section. Why? Because no other track in the entirety of mkwii, even in CTGP, will give you the knowledge or specific skillset that is *mandatory to merely survive* playing Mushroom Peaks. The track is designed so that you either know *exactly* where to land on every single mushroom (because where you land on them matters in mkwii) or you just die. It’s a knowledge check that does not care how many years you have been playing the game as a whole because that all that other experience with any of the other tracks Does Not Matter. I don’t think it’s just me who feels like this kind of design philosophy goes beyond being unappealing to JUST beginners. My decision to quit came after multiple years of holding out hope that something would actually be done about this and other tracks mentioned in this video but, like Olmi mentioned, the track removal voting process has only gotten more frustrating as they refuse to even include the tracks I actually want gone in the voting pool, and the last time peaks WAS included, it had a (iirc) 53% removal vote which was clearly outright ignored saying as it’s still here. I think the pack overall has done wonders for expanding the mkwii community and keeping the game alive, but this subset of tracks that genuinely feel like they’re being protected by the higher-ups, despite being so questionable in quality, began to muddy my experience streaming the game every week due to how often they tend to get picked for whatever reason (like Olmi said, this likely DOES include people just picking them to troll the lobby) to the point I’ve simply had to step away from the pack entirely until at the very least most things mentioned by Olmi in this video are actually addressed.

Very good video, Olmi! Glad I could help out! Although Bean & I patched things up with the peaks stuff two years ago, it still baffles me that obvious quality control problems still exist.

Well, just reading that rant on MrBean's part was ALLLLLLLLLL I needed to know.

Bro is spittin facts. As someone who's been playing ctgp for a long time, I can agree with what you're saying. But I do enjoying ctgp regardless of tracks being too easy or difficult.

I think an issue in of itself when talking about the problems of CTGP is people tend to get way too broad and vague about what they're actually talking about. So I'm glad you went into detail while also being thorough. Very good video Olmi ❤

I looked this up because i was stuck on Sunset Hill Zone. I was hoping that i was just being stubborn and there was an easier way to grab it. Looks like not. 😬

Nate Bihldorff jamming out! Edit: Some of the timings are specific to Shy Guy Fall's melody and rhythm, even if you make the tempos match. Imagine what a "Shy Guy" version of Choco Mountain could sound like if a voice actor tailored the performance for this song specifically!

To be fair, the download page does say it’s recommended to read the manual

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It's not a bad game from my own experience but its VERY bloated with pointless mechanics and bad changes to what made SRB2K good. Drifting feels sluggish and slow for no reason. There's no point to trick springs outside of VERY few courses. Fast fall just feels like a bad decision and the bounce when you land makes it feel terrible to use. Spindash is barely usable outside of POSITION Phase. Insta-Whip is more punishing for YOU to use often than not (you never want to have 0 rings in online). The drifting and control in SRB2K feels tight, fast, and responsive which really made the game stand out from other kart racers. Drifting in Ring Racers got heavily nerfed to justify the existence of the Ring Boost mechanic, and now it just feels punishing to use drift at all without ring boosting through it. Inclines, oh my god inclines are GOD AWFUL in Ring Racers. If you get hit on an incline you're basically screwed if your ring count is too low. Most of the mechanics in Ring Racers besides the main Ring mechanic itself just... have no point. To be honest the game would be better off removing a ton of these out of place mechanics and fixing some pre-existing ones to be more in line with the games predecessor.

frankly i love the visual improvements but the gameplay just feels horrid i hate the ring mechanic and i actually feel SLOW playing a SONIC RACING GAME i am glad some people still keep their SRB2K servers up and running

This game has so much effort put into it, especially solo, BUT GOD DAMN does the default driving feel like ass. I had a couple hundered hours in srb2k and understood the game well enough, but this game feels like my tires are greased up and like someone put about 600 lbs worth of bricks in my kart, because it feels so slow and slippery, i get it. Its because of ring boosts and tricks and the like, which is fine but it is NOT for me. Og kart felt better to play in every single possible way, i kinda wish the solo content and tricks were in the og kart, but the rings mechanic is what really turns me off. Im so glad they decided to make this its own game, because i played the solo content for this and then went right back to srb2k. Good video though!

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Hi, I want to play srb2 kart, I'm new so I don't know which version I should play rings racers or regular srb2 kart. are they the same? Which version has more mods? What version is the one that people play the most? Thanks to whoever is going to answer me xD if anyone even answers me 😢

Finally, someone else sees the beauty of a pseudo-charge hold on Hydra! Love to see your interpretation of it, and I hope something similar to it is put into the game. It’d encourage Hydra to run both Run and Swim Speed to maximize both mobility while charging and how quickly they can reposition with swimming in order to minimize charge decay.

Changes I'd Add, Glooga 47.5 standard damage and 52.5 turret or 40 base, and 60 turret damage Hydra damage increase from 40->45 and shoot 2-5 more shots extending the duration BigBubbler now has Sub Power up letting you jump to it really fast

can start like a project m type fan game with community patches like this? i feel like that would go so hard

hot take as a dynamo main i think that there's 2 ways the vertical can be fixed, buff frame data, or make it do 100 damage at max range, like the weapon could actually function as a backline that's scary if the vertical flick functioned.

Tbh, I've played this. i am really mixed about it. i love it how it's unique racer and trying new things. But it's really hard to use to cause of the other mechanics. I spent about 2 hours trying to do the tutorial lolololol. Planning to play rn too tho lol

This was really good.

Oof, Daytona's music got downgraded.

It’s taken me way too long to realize that the actual shield part of Brella is so bad that I should stop using it and just use the regular shots. It’s like in Smash melee where Zelda players only play sheik